»Xog Posted January 19, 2010 Report Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) I'd like to break something down to you folks. Marriage is a legal proceeding. It was first introduced via religion. When the seperation of state and religion initiated, this caused a problem. The rules of marriage, from religion, state it must be between man and woman. Okay. That's religion. Legal Marriage, according to law, is supposed to be between man and woman also. But this law comes from when religion was part of the state and its legal proceedings. They are no longer together. This law has never been changed. The only thing wrong with letting a woman marry another womany or a man marry another man is people's viewpoints. There is no negative impact on society or anyone at all. Murder, as defined in common law countries, is the unlawful killing of another human being with intent (or malice aforethought), and generally this state of mind distinguishes murder from other forms of unlawful homicide (such as manslaughter). In the Old Testament, it is a sin to kill someone unless it is an accident and although the human being is dead and no longer suffers, the victim's family suffers emotional and economic loss and also if they were married, the wife or husband left behind suffers and the children too. Same-sex Marriage is illegal because the bible says so (just like the murder example) and has never changed. [national law] What happened to seperation of state and religion?Who said the bible is the basis of legalities? Edited January 19, 2010 by Xog Quote
Simulacrum Posted January 20, 2010 Report Posted January 20, 2010 So, Theodore Olson, who was Bush's lawyer in Bush v. Gore and later his Solicitor General, is arguing from his conservative principles that marriage is fundamental to family and community in America, and that it is therefore a right that cannot be denied to gay people. Fucking badass. Quote
Lera Posted January 25, 2010 Report Posted January 25, 2010 One more reason why America needs a 'real' change. We suck as a country and almost as an individual. Quote
Anonymous Posted January 28, 2010 Report Posted January 28, 2010 I think Gay Marriage should just be left alone.Whose to stop people from marrying whom they desire to be with?America the free...Try America the oppressed.I'm going to be blunt here. The only two kinds of people bothered by gay marriage are churches and politicians, and what the hell? Churches have difficulty accepting gay marriage but there seems to be no problem with having sex with an altar boy. Politicians should be focusing on the economy and our state of affairs, not whether or not two guys loving each other is immoral. Same-sex marriage is a choice and other people have no right to decide things for those people and deny anyone the right to do something unless stated illegal. Seems to me that the only back against same-sex marriage on the theological side comes from an old book, which people really shouldn’t take literally because who even knows if it’s the truth? It was written by people and has been changed a lot from the original. I wish people would focus on the economy and worry about the future, instead of arguing in a pointless argument. -Anon Quote
»Lynx Posted January 30, 2010 Report Posted January 30, 2010 I think the issue is that marriage alters your legal rights, and marriage also is considered to be a religious ceremony. Therefore, because marriage is a religious ceremony; the churches get involved. Also, as marriage changes your legal rights and status; it becomes political. As I see it, this whole thing stems from marriage being a legal ceremony in the first place, while being a partnership by religious sacrament. My opinion is that no law should ever be made that respects; or is advantageous to any religion or religious body. I believe once that error is fixed, there should be no reason why Government should ever need be concerned. Currently, marriage gives you different legal rights than those from a civil union, or a civil partnership. As marriage is practiced not by the Government, but by the churches - then it's clearly the prerogative of the churches as to whom they marry; but a Government should respect the human rights of it's citizens. To do this it should either change the rights gained from marriage, or provide something else that isn't offered by a religious body that has equal rights. Same sex marriage doesn't bother me at all. What two people do with themselves isn't of my concern; provided it doesn't effect me (which it doesn't) - I don't care. Quote
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