Zioneer Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 http://www.ssforum.net/index.php?showtopic=1444&st=0 Well here I am' date=' months later, some days ago I decided to finish what I had began writing and I've just finished the edited version of the do-*BAD WORD*-ents that I wrote (I've deleted the part about staff, since it's very changed from what it was when I wrote it).[/quote'] I've had it with staff. I've been a member of staff for years (on and off). But I never really expressed how I really felt until recently, because I really can't just sit here and watch "staff" waste what could be a GREAT zone.I'm probably the player who has been most active in the zone, I've interacted with everyone, I don't look up to anyone, and I don't look down at anyone, so I know exactly what has been going on in the zone since I began in may 2001.You have never seen me seriously get mad over the game itself. These are not opinions, but pure facts as I've seen them.I always knew these facts, but I also knew that I'd only cause trouble if I told the truth.Well, now I realize that trouble is needed for the staff to do anything at all to change, I mean to even make them THINK that they have to change, trouble is needed because they seem to think that everything is all gööd.Well, I can't hold back my thoughts anymore, so I'm going to tell everyone of you straight up, no lies, nothing but truth. I still remember when I sent my one and only staff application. I told them that I knew what the players wanted, so I would know how to serve them. I can still stand for what I said. Ever since I joined staff, I have more or less pointed out what is wrong with the zone.Instead of paying attention to me and try to understand what I meant, they either ignored me, or just called me a whiner.That does not bother me in any way, what bothers me is that I am not allowed to do what I wanted to do by joining staff: which is to serve the players better.Most staffers don't even KNOW why they are staff. They have no ambition what-so-ever. I joined to make my home zone better, simple as that. Staff has some serious issues. Staff has had these issues for a very long time.Heh, "the notorious 17th staff". All I've heard about staff is that they suck. And it is no lie, weather you want to admit it or not: this staff does not function like a staff zone is supposed to function.The problem is that there is no problem in their minds, since it's been like this for years, they think it's all good, they think that this is how staff works. That, or they're just plain STUPID and slow. 17th Staff is anything but a staff.A zone staff is a staff that effectively serves the players. 17TH STAFF doesn't even KNOW what the players WANT. There is no real connection between "staffers" and "players" because everyone is so -*BAD WORD*- focused on themselvesPeople who are in charge of staff, aren't real players. They are people who stopped playing as much because they can't get better at the game, so they join staff for more excitement. But please don't get me wrong though, when I say staff, I mean staff as a whole, in general, not every single staffer. Because there are some great staffers in there, but the ones in charge are the ones who count. "MikeTheNose, the last remaining sysop from the original one." And we ALL (SHOULD) know why he was always came third. "Vile Requiem, just give me a minute, I have a great plan" The most horrible staff member that the zone has, and probably ever will see(n). But it's not his fault though, he just THOUGHT he had something intelligent to say, but since there's no one to compare to, they thought "hmm well he seems to know what he's doing" WRONG.Vile is a very confused individual, and I'm not saying this to mock him, I'm saying this because I can clearly read his mind by how he interacts.I mean, just yesterday I got in a long conversation with this guy where I proved him wrong on every little thing.. this guy said some of the weirdest shït... INCLUDING: 5:Veggie> well kids5:Veggie> I'd love to stay5:Delic> 5:Veggie> but I need some zz's5:Delic> nite5:Vile Requiem> cya5:Veggie> I'll cyas tomorrow5:Vile Requiem> I love being focused5:Vile Requiem> now that maka is frightened 5:Delic> ? o_O5:Delic> what should I be afraid of? 5:Vile Requiem> just me becoming a god5:Vile Requiem> and Perni "forgetting" something5:Vile Requiem> that's my plan, to make perni forget something5:Vile Requiem> What exactly, that's for me to know 5:Delic> you're insane 5:Vile Requiem> you have to be insane to do my job5:Delic> insane = mentally ill, mad, crazy; senseless, foolish5:Vile Requiem> every little fugging thing I do has a forum page written about it5:Vile Requiem> even something so tiny as attach bounty 40 5:Delic> that's your problem vile man5:Delic> everything you do, is about you5:Delic> it's like you do it just to get credit5:Delic> you're not very respected irl are you? :/5:Vile Requiem> I do it to prevent being bored honestly5:Vile Requiem> arguing and doing this eats up much of my time5:Vile Requiem> but it's fun, so I do it5:Delic> pretty pointless5:Delic> if you do it just for your own fun ENOUGH SAID!?!?!?!?!?!? Come ON now. WHY is this guy STILL IN STAFF. If I asked him why he's sysop, he'd probably say, "oh I did this, oh, I did that" and when I show to him that those things were basically nothing in the zone, his only excuse is, "well, Enterprise promoted me, ihihihih"You know why I think that those "respected" (ex-)members of staff promoted you Vile? Simply because you have A LOT to say, but NONE that actually is for the better of the zone. You're good at confusing people Vile, that's all you do.This guy's WHOLE MENTALITY is FÜCKED UP. And it's no lie, this is nothing but truth.Vile has had "the master plan" in works for YEARS, and we all know that nothing really effective ever comes from him.Vile has a personal vendetta with players who left the zone when they changed it into something that those players did not enjoy to play. He STILL dislikes them.About a month ago we got in a shorter discussion, and when it almost was over he told me OPENLY in staff chat that he was leaving 17th before it falls apart so that nobody would blame him.Vile thinks that the zone is divided by "league players" (people who play jav leagues) and "pub players".And since he always have and always will suck in Jav, he's a pub player, well, maybe he was BACK WHEN he played (which nobody even can remember) but he still sucks at the actual game.Oh yeah, VILE DISLIKES JAV PILOTS. The guy made A LEAGUE FOR PUB PLAYERS! And there wouldn't be anything wrong with that if he didn't have the kind of thinking that he has: Pub Players vs Jav Players.It's like the only reason he made his league was to prove that Jav players suck at it. HE OPENLY said that he gave Epion (which is the only veteran squad that plays his league, and God knows why because they all know it sucks) the "hardest" schedule, and he's always saying how Epion got owned by I could go on, I seriously could, but I don't want to, I feel bad, and sad that these people exist and are given power to do anything at all in the zone. "pernille, "? um" pernille is a nice lady, she wants to help the zone. But the problem is that she doesn't know how to do it.All these friday pubmaps, for what? what we need is a gameplay change, not just some eye candy. Then we have those who actually are great at what they do: Telson, Veggie, Rifleman, LoVeWAR (gfx wiz but why is he SMod?) And I love tablet as a person, but the only reason that he is a smod is because he knows NBVegita in real life. But he's a great guy and he could do more for the zone if he only knew what. ntfx: hm. no comment ;P There. That's the truth about UPPER STAFF. So you can only imagine how fücked up lower staff (mods/ERs) is.And the worst thing is that they keep hiring people without ANY PROPER TRAINING. One of the newest ERs told me that his training lasted FOR FIVE MINUTES.When you hire new people you need to know, first of all: their age, their level of maturity. 2) What they know, 3) Their personality. Now they seem to hire whoever "seems" to be nice and whoever "seems" to know things.You can't just give some 13 year old powers and expect them to host rumble properly after you tell them the commands.Some mods who've been staff FOR MONTHS, still don't know how to host some events properly.The perfect example of a good ER would be MMaverick (who now is mod, and very well deserved). This guy has the ideal at!@#$%^&*ude of a staffer. Pernille didn't want me to post this because she thinks that it would only end up in flame wars, but shït, I think SOMETHING needs to be said to set things straight around here.And we can all see that this is the truth, so let's stop denying it and do something about it shall we?
ntfx Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 5:Vile Requiem> just me becoming a god5:Vile Requiem> and Perni "forgetting" something5:Vile Requiem> that's my plan, to make perni forget something5:Vile Requiem> What exactly, that's for me to know History repeats
Cencil Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 Yea, Vile is a -*BAD WORD*-. He may have the power to fire me...regardless...-*BAD WORD*- him <3 maka EDIT: I hope Vile Reads this.
madhaha Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 Maka, why are so many of your posts called something-or-other THE TRUTH. You learn your literary skills from some third-rate New York tabloid hack? Another "staff sux" thread. Ok, so wtf are people going to do?
Zioneer Posted December 15, 2003 Author Report Posted December 15, 2003 This isn't just another "staff sucks" thread.. I just showed you why. And by the way, I typed all this down when the forums were offline so the log isn't from "yesterday" as I said.
NBVegita Posted December 15, 2003 Report Posted December 15, 2003 Yes this is just another staff sucks topic, whether you have the same proof as anyone else who has started one before. I have nothing against you zio, but I'm locking this thread because I'm tired of hearing the staff get flamed. No, every idea you had was not the way to save the zone. Yes, you did have good ideas, and I think if I quote this right.... Vile: You can't change the world in a day. Slow down! Changingsettings will only hurt the zone. You must go in baby steps. Ihave told people this for years. You will learn. That's what I say to you now maka, I told you that once, and you simply replied, "You can do as much as you can in one day." I'm sorry if you feel that your ideas were ignored, but saying that you ideas are the way to save the zone will close many ears, and argueing every idea as if it were closes more ears. It's hard for staff to work with every idea given to us, because as you well know maka, we get a whole lot of em. We do our best, and welcome ideas, but everyone thinks they have the best ideas in the zone, not excluding staff. Sorry about that little rant, I'm sorry to see you go, and I'll cya around the zone.
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