Iraq 2.0

[FMBI]

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Alternately,

 

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Well, I guess Bush decided that post-genocide [ahem, "ethnic cleansing"] Iraq was too darn boring, and he wants to get the Syrians involved. If we're lucky, then this could escalate to a small-scale war - and if we're double lucky, Syria could stop !@#$%^&*-footing around and invade Lebanon, thus provoking a fresh Arab-Israeli war! Woo-hoo!

 

Hurrah for Bush's judgment, eh?

[»doc flabby]

Wag the dog anyone

 

http://www.imdb.com/!@#$%^&*le/tt0120885/

Edited October 27, 2008 by doc flabby

[NBVegita]

Except he's not trying to get re-elected but other than that it's a great fit.

 

But I do have to say this could actually help John McCain.

 

Either the people will further harbor animosity towards the republican party or the "war time" mentality will kick in and people will move towards McCain.

 

I personally think it will be the first one. If they were going to use it to help McCain it would have needed to be a bit earlier.

[SeVeR]

Well that's why Bush ordered Georgia to provoke the Russians right? Except it didn't work too well then.

[Bak]

whens the next osama video coming out?

[Samapico]

whens the next osama video coming out?

I heard they were shooting the trailer. It should be in theaters next summer

 

 

"Osama is back... But this time, he has a new friend: Obama!"

"Follow him in this explosive adventure!"

 

Cause yeah, Obama's clearly a terrorist

 

If I was better at photoshop, and if it wasn't 1am, I'd make a movie cover for this

 

slightly on topic of this off topic intervention, here's a funny script

[Bak]

i dunno, osama released one right before the election in 2004 to put bush over the top...

 

X5Ph8msKo0whttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Ph8msKo0w

[Dav]

America> Terrorists spotted - deploy bombers

 

Helpless nation> You crossed into our border, your war is over there

 

America> We found terrorists here, they will be dealt with

 

Helpless nation> That was a school

 

America> We know it harbord terrorists [END DISCUSSION]

 

 

Why is it that the US who is the first to whine and complain about international laws concerning weapons can ignore these rules at times of its own choosing?

 

If it suspected terrorists in syria then it should involve the syrian government, not just send a few F16s over the border thinking everyone will thank them later.

[NBVegita]

On a side note both the Iraqi and American governments have been registering complaints with the Syrian government about terrorists crossing over from Syria and launching attacks on Iraqi's. In fact 15 Iraqi policemen were killed in a raid last week (I think) from insurgents coming from Syria.

 

Not saying I support this by any means, but Syria isn't exactly an innocent bystander in all of this.

[AstroProdigy]

Just a little point to make here even though Syria's Alawite government hates Sunni extremists as much as Iran unlike Iran it has to deal with a Sunni majority and doesn't wanna look like it's working together with America to fight Sunnis. You wouldn't know if they secretly gave the US the ok and are filing complaints to look like they're angry.

 

All this goes to show that if we REALLY wanted to fight Sunni extremists instead of supporting a Wahabbi government (the main funders of radical Islam and such wonderful groups as the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Iraq) we should have come to an arrangement with Shiite Iran and Alawite controlled Syria back when they were offering it to us. Maybe Obama will have the foresight to realize that our real enemies in the middle east are the Wahabbis and those they support.

[FMBI]

Just a little point to make here even though Syria's Alawite government hates Sunni extremists as much as Iran unlike Iran it has to deal with a Sunni majority and doesn't wanna look like it's working together with America to fight Sunnis. You wouldn't know if they secretly gave the US the ok and are filing complaints to look like they're angry.

 

All this goes to show that if we REALLY wanted to fight Sunni extremists instead of supporting a Wahabbi government (the main funders of radical Islam and such wonderful groups as the Taliban and Al Qaeda in Iraq) we should have come to an arrangement with Shiite Iran and Alawite controlled Syria back when they were offering it to us. Maybe Obama will have the foresight to realize that our real enemies in the middle east are the Wahabbis and those they support.

 

Silly Astro. There's nothing we can do about the Wahhabis, because if we tried, Saudi Arabia's oil production would collapse, the Levant would go up in smoke, and Egypt would end up in a rehash of the Yemeni civil war. This is one case where it's better to pretend a problem doesn't exist. After all, to use an uplifting metaphor, if you're being chased by dogs and you've got a wound in your arm, you don't stop to bandage it up and get ripped to pieces, you keep going and hope you can figure something out eventually.

 

That isn't to say we shouldn't get in bed with Syria and Iran, however. Iran's facing extremely serious economic problems, and we're in the best bargaining position we're ever going to get - if we sign some sort of arms deescalation agreement with them and sign good (for them) oil production deals, we could probably get them into the OIL PRODUCERS <3 AMERICA club without triggering the downfall of Saudi Arabia's government.

 

Same, though slightly modified, with Syria - they're stuck between a rock and a hard place right now, with both Israel and their homegrown religious nuts pulling in opposite directions. If we give them a way out, they'll be heavily indebted to us, and we can finally resolve some of the problems we've ignored since before the Baghdad Pact.

[AstroProdigy]

Supporting Wahabbis is what got us into this mess in the first place. When you support the people who are the most extreme nuts in their religion that happens to believe you should be part of a greater Caliphate what do you expect to happen? This is especially true with the United States that will be guaranteed to be involved all over the world, including the Muslim world and automatically piss these people off. We're helping train the extremists of the future that we will then have to fight. Also Saudi Arabia's oil production is in a generally Shiite area ;-)

[FMBI]

And much of that oil used to belong to other countries until the Wahhabis pressured them into handing it over - it's not like they don't have influence in that area. AFAIK, there's no reason to believe that "militants", or even Saudi Arabia's overpayed-undertrained armed forces, wouldn't go after any oil wells in the region, regardless of the religion of the current inhabitants.