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[★ CRe]

Cre is netbanned? News to me.

 

His netban is old news. See netbans #2513, #2391, and #2351.

 

Which were over today. Look again kiddo. And its SWE Ban #50. Get your facts straight.

 

 

#50 was a local ban placed to block your (chronic) netban evasion. It seems I miscalculated the ban length by 3 days when placing #50. The error has now been fixed. My apologies for any inconveniences.

 

I have serious doubts that was the case.

[Aceflyer]

Oh really? mind to explain to me why i was banned when i actually never came into this zone before last night?

 

Oh right, there is no real reason.

 

Suck to be you.

 

I wouldn't usually respond to ban 'appeals' in threads like this, but I'll make an exception this time.

 

One does not need to actually enter a zone in order to violate zone rules via such antics as cross-zone har!@#$%^&*ment or advertising other zones in said zone's official chat channels (antics which may not always be netbannable but may certainly be locally bannable).

 

You were banned for 2 days on 08/24 for participating in X`terrania's re!@#$%^&*ed group har!@#$%^&*ment effort, You were banned for another 2 days on 08/27 for various reasons, the most prominent of which was your antics in this thread. L Y N X was banned for 3 days for his collective efforts against SWE - including starting this thread, but also including various other incidents. (Yes, this thread initially didn't involve SWE, but it was patently obvious from the beginning, given the nature of this thread, that SWE would get drawn into the mix sooner rather than later.) All of this is per SWE ban policy, which calls for a "1-3 day ban" for violation of the "respect" rule. Personally I would have preferred placing longer bans against some of you, but instead I placed bans of only 2 or 3 days in accordance with SWE ban policy.

 

Also note that SWE ban policy was a collective product of SWE staff, and that this exact same policy has been in place - untouched, unedited, unmodified - for over 5 months now.

 

As for why I placed bans of 2 or 3 days instead of bans of 1 day, SWE ban policy only specifies a "1-3 day ban" and leaves the exact duration to the judgment of the operator. One of the factors I use in determining ban length is whether the player in question has contributed positively to the zone in the past. Another factor is whether the player in question is likely to continue the objectionable behavior in question in the future. None of you, except for CRe>, have contributed positively to the zone in the past. All of you seem quite likely to continue your re!@#$%^&*ed behavior in the future.

 

(Before X starts whining again, as I know he will: In X`terrania's case, he was banned for 2 days for violating the "respect" rule. The remainder of his ban pertains to a local copy of a yearlong MG ban for IRL har!@#$%^&*ment as well as various other incidents of har!@#$%^&*ment.)

Edited August 29, 2008 by Aceflyer

[Aceflyer]

I have serious doubts that was the case.

 

While I'm flattered that you apparently think that I'm incapable of making mistakes, the truth is I am only human, and making mistakes is part of being human.

 

You seem to make quite a lot of "mistakes". Guessing yer mother was like that, too.

 

Shut the !@#$%^&* up.

[★ CRe]

I wouldn't usually respond to ban 'appeals' in threads like this, but I'll make an exception this time.

 

One does not need to actually enter a zone in order to violate zone rules via such antics as cross-zone har!@#$%^&*ment or advertising other zones in said zone's official chat channels (antics which may not always be netbannable but may certainly be locally bannable).

 

You were banned for 2 days on 08/24 for participating in X`terrania's re!@#$%^&*ed group har!@#$%^&*ment effort, You were banned for another 2 days on 08/27 for various reasons, the most prominent of which was your antics in this thread.

 

So you get flamed on a forum and you ban the person? That makes sense. You sure this was regarding SWE right and not your personal feelings?

 

L Y N X was banned for 3 days for his collective efforts against SWE - including starting this thread, but also including various other incidents. (Yes, this thread initially didn't involve SWE, but it was patently obvious from the beginning, given the nature of this thread, that SWE would get drawn into the mix sooner rather than later.) All of this is per SWE ban policy, which calls for a "1-3 day ban" for violation of the "respect" rule. Personally I would have preferred placing longer bans against some of you, but instead I placed bans of only 2 or 3 days in accordance with SWE ban policy.

 

Like I said I don't think this was involved with SWE at all. This was definitely your personal feelings using your power in SWE to feel better.

 

Also note that SWE ban policy was a collective product of SWE staff, and that this exact same policy has been in place - untouched, unedited, unmodified - for over 5 months now.

 

(Before X starts whining again, as I know he will: In X`terrania's case, he was banned for 2 days for violating the "respect" rule. The remainder of his ban pertains to a local copy of a yearlong MG ban for IRL har!@#$%^&*ment as well as various other incidents of har!@#$%^&*ment.)

 

Seriously if your going to try to get population you should really adjust your ban policy. Ever heard of silencing and speclocking?

[Aceflyer]

So you get flamed on a forum and you ban the person? That makes sense. You sure this was regarding SWE right and not your personal feelings?

 

SWE has been attacked as well in this thread. As for the group har!@#$%^&*ment effort, that took place in game.

 

Yes, this thread initially didn't involve SWE, but it was patently obvious from the beginning, given the nature of this thread, that SWE would get drawn into the mix sooner rather than later.

 

Like I said I don't think this was involved with SWE at all. This was definitely your personal feelings using your power in SWE to feel better.

 

No, you seem to be confusing me with L Y N X and SN.

 

It involves SWE when the whole incident started in game because of a SWE ban placed against X`terrania (refer to my previous post for details), continued in game with a group har!@#$%^&*ment effort coordinated by X`terrania, and finally continued in this forum.

 

Seriously if your going to try to get population you should really adjust your ban policy. Ever heard of silencing and speclocking?

 

Yes, and they are employed when appropriate. Silencing and speclocking hardly work cross-zone, now do they?

 

Besides, offenses committed by SWE players are almost always treated with more leniency, as these players have contributed positively to SWE by playing in it. None of you (again with the exception of CRe>) have contributed anything positive to SWE; your only interest in it has been in attacking it.

Edited August 29, 2008 by Aceflyer

[★ CRe]

Is this about that permanent ban from Supernova? That ban was approved by me as well. We didn't need you lurking around bugging our staff. Otherwise our policy is to not ban but to silence and speclock and use the nifty feature of ignore.

 

Does a local ban work cross-zone? I don't think so. Let me guess were you going to have netbans made? Is it too hard to use ?ignore or ignore.txt?

[Aceflyer]

Is this about that permanent ban from Supernova? That ban was approved by me as well. We didn't need you lurking around bugging our staff. Otherwise our policy is to not ban but to silence and speclock and use the nifty feature of ignore.

 

Who did I bug? I don't even know who the staff (aside from the sysops) are in SN. Heck, I hardly ever visited SN.

 

I hadn't been in SN for quite some time as well when the ban was placed, so take that smack and stuff it.

 

Does a local ban work cross-zone? I don't think so. Let me guess were you going to have netbans made? Is it too hard to use ?ignore or ignore.txt?

 

The behavior in question was not netbannable, however it was certainly locally bannable.

Edited August 29, 2008 by Aceflyer