Exiili Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) I think that removing antiwarp altogether would make the zone more teambased as you really need to communicate with your team to kill them cloakers and it allows some skillfull persons to take the flags away from a crappy team who do not work together. I find it lame that a solo lanc after he's been byp!@#$%^&*ed can just yell "someone get anti" and you're dead with no way of escaping. I think it would add to the fast-paced teamplay that HS is trying to be. With antiwarp removed you really start to appreciate the defenders with xradar, because without them you'd get utterly pwnd. Please have a mindstorm about this, I am serious. Edit: The HS website only show 11/2 % of the lancasters to have xradar and 3! people in the entire zone have antiwarp. Edited August 11, 2008 by Exiili Quote
Dr Brain Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 What would happen is that there would no longer be any point to flagging. People aren't suddenly going to be more team oriented. They're going to get angry and frustrated and stop basing. Quote
L.C. Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) I disagree Dr. Brain. Antiwarp is so overrated these days that it almost or basically obsoletes some of the old fashioned, great parts of the game. Too much or too little of something is never good unless there is a compliment to it. How are you going to compliment the overrated use of antiwarp? You might aswell just remove features from the game. If they get frustrated because a smart/lucky individual cloaked into their base and launched an ambush all-out-war in the flag room (or stole the flags and ran off), then they would learn from their mistakes -- would they not? Every part of the game has a purpose. Antiwarp was never meant to be easy candy unless you could compliment it with a down-side to having it. SVS is a perfect example to learn from; !@#$%^&*uming that you understand the design of those settings, it would be understood as very logical settings. I find it lame that a solo lanc after he's been byp!@#$%^&*ed can just yell "someone get anti" and you're dead with no way of escaping.This makes flagging abit linear if antiwarp comes inexpensively, easy, or by default. From the attackers position and perspective, it rules out some possible attacking/ambush strategies. If you want to design a good flagging game, one thing to keep in mind is the number of different strategies an attacking team has to strategically infiltrate and capture a base. But while doing it, you also don't want to reduce the number of possible ways to defend and protect against such possible courses of actions from the Attackers. If the wording of this doesn't help, the idea would be to maintain an equal ratio between the two sides by possible strategies and also to provide the most number of possible strategies at the same time (there will be a limit for this depending on the other parts of the settings, and also based on the features of capabilities of Subgame and the client). The HS website only show 11/2 % of the lancasters to have xradar and 3! people in the entire zone have antiwarp.This is an example of something that's overdone. Just what exactly is the purpose of every item in your zone (ie xradar in this case)? But it's your call. */me shrugs* Just my opinion. ;o Edited August 11, 2008 by L.C. Quote
Kilo Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) You realize there was just a reset, right? Do you even play this game? How can you pull website statistics for a day old reset? rofl. I refuse to have a mindstorm. The whole point of antiwarp is to stop lame stuff like escaping with flags, which the defense can do just as well as the offense, do you want attacking freqs to never be able to take flags because the defending freq can run 100% of the time? Edited August 11, 2008 by Kilo Quote
9vgnc3eZ01 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 You realize there was just a reset, right? Do you even play this game? How can you pull website statistics for a day old reset? rofl. I refuse to have a mindstorm. The whole point of antiwarp is to stop lame stuff like escaping with flags, which the defense can do just as well as the offense, do you want attacking freqs to never be able to take flags because the defending freq can run 100% of the time? So basically if there was no antiwarp the defending team would never lose their flags... ... I choose Antiwarp Quote
Suicide_Run Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 (edited) Well I wouldn't want it to be removed completely. If anything was need to be done, I suggest shifting the item category from Emitter to Addon (or a Mount). Edited August 11, 2008 by Suicide_Run Quote
L.C. Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 Well I wouldn't want it to be removed completely.Same here, even though I don't play in Hyperspace. I think I understand this situation though. Quote
Dr Brain Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 then they would learn from their mistakes -- would they not? I'm guessing you don't know the kind of people that play HS. Quote
rootbear75 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 I think that removing antiwarp altogether would make the zone more teambased as you really need to communicate with your team to kill them cloakers and it allows some skillfull persons to take the flags away from a crappy team who do not work together. I find it lame that a solo lanc after he's been byp!@#$%^&*ed can just yell "someone get anti" and you're dead with no way of escaping. I think it would add to the fast-paced teamplay that HS is trying to be. With antiwarp removed you really start to appreciate the defenders with xradar, because without them you'd get utterly pwnd. Please have a mindstorm about this, I am serious. Edit: The HS website only show 11/2 % of the lancasters to have xradar and 3! people in the entire zone have antiwarp.so your basically sayingOh !@#$%^&* the team who's good but manages to lose the flags because of a fluke. ya. thats an AWESOME idea.Why dont we just prevent you and your team from having it huh? maybe you'll see how stupid that idea is then Quote
vetta64 Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 This is a completely unintelligent thread that should be closed due to stupidity. Basing without AW is a waste of time and nrg. Quote
Noobclear Missile Posted August 11, 2008 Report Posted August 11, 2008 To sum up arguments.No anti-warp = thorstorms and leaks ruining FGs. Quote
op2rules Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 This is the worst idea submitted I think i've ever seen in my entire life of playing hs. Quote
ArcticxWolf Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe if you understood what the concept was, it might not be so stupid. Quote
Kilo Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 Hey it's that guy who had a thread deleted. Quote
Kilo Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 (edited) oh i looked and i guess i thought it was another !@#$%^&*lein that case, look it's that guy who quit yesterday issues on the internets there op2? Edited August 13, 2008 by Kilo Quote
tcsoccer and neptune Posted August 13, 2008 Report Posted August 13, 2008 Yep, looks like the proficy is true. "He'll be back in a week" Quote
rootbear75 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Posted August 14, 2008 Once you go black you never go back (black meaning space) Quote
Linear-Key Posted August 17, 2008 Report Posted August 17, 2008 I think AW range is a bit too big Quote
op2rules Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 oh i looked and i guess i thought it was another !@#$%^&*lein that case, look it's that guy who quit yesterday issues on the internets there op2? No, I've just honestly decided to stop giving any respect at all for people online who don't deserve it. The internet is full of a bunch of 10-15 year old kids who don't know what the !@#$%^&* they are talking about and need a good slap in the face. Quote
Kilo Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 haha, indeed. slow down tiger it was just a misunderstanding about an internet forum thrad. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 The internet is full of a bunch of 10-15 year old kids Do you remember what you were doing when you were 9? While you were busy with whatever that was, I was working on this zone. Quote
Dr Brain Posted August 18, 2008 Report Posted August 18, 2008 Yes, and when you were 6, I created the zone. Quote
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