X`terrania Posted July 30, 2008 Report Posted July 30, 2008 Root, any weight you lose is gonna be muscle/water weight, and i guarantee when you drop all that fat your skin is gonna sag to the !@#$%^&*ing ground. oh itt men are invincible and even bullets cannot stop them, if i were to join the army id be on the front lines knocking numbers off the charts for the enemy country Quote
»Lynx Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 I beg to differ; I've seen people roots size get themselves to a decent figure - but knowing root, I know he will never actually put the effort needed to get fit, because I know he will say "I don't have enough free time" or something... -Lynx Quote
darkhosis Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) "You'll be back in a week." Good luck with your endeavours, but I was just wondering about something you said in another post... You mentioned that there's a 22% bodyfat requirement to join the army, or something like that? Are you sure that's correct, because to me that seems completely re!@#$%^&*ed, unless the bodyfat measurements in the UK differ to the ones taken in the UK? Clue me in? -Lynxreally? i was actually considering joining the armed forces. 1) to help me lose weight, and 2) for the discipline.if there's a requirement, then i guess i cant :/The listed requiements are: High school diploma or GED, 17-34, US citizen, single w/ no children or married with less than 3 children (this seems a bit bizarre to me), and the weight and physical fitness tests. If you're 6ft you're supposed to weigh less than 203 pounds for 21-27. Interesting enough, they list 210 as maximum weight for someone 40+ years old that has no prior service... but supposedly the age limit is 34. So whatever. I guess maybe the 40+ year old would be for reserves and not active duty. Anyway, it says it all at: http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html They're pretty desparate for recruits though and I bet they bend those rules a lot. They're even letting people in nowadays w/ violent felonies. Hmm, can't see where it says about your time limit for pushups and situps in the physical fitness thing.. but 30 pushups and 50 situps (I'm !@#$%^&*uming at you get at least 2 minutes) and 2 miles in 18 minutes (!!) is just ez (females only have to do 10 pushups ).. well, that's for 27-31 bracket.. you'd have to run 2 miles in 17:30, omgz, so hard. Fear the nearly 9 minute miles. Edited July 31, 2008 by darkhosis Quote
»Lynx Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 All sounds easy enough to me... But I guess I'm pretty fanatic about fitness... -Lynx Quote
darkhosis Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 All sounds easy enough to me... But I guess I'm pretty fanatic about fitness... -LynxThe mile time seems ridiculous low to me.. i could run a mile in under 10 minutes in elementary school. Seems to me that that would be the most important aspect? Maybe you have to run it under load or something, carrying your gear or some !@#$%^&*?? Quote
»Lynx Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Yeah, and probably off terrain cross country... -Lynx Quote
X`terrania Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 I beg to differ; I've seen people roots size get themselves to a decent figure - but knowing root, I know he will never actually put the effort needed to get fit, because I know he will say "I don't have enough free time" or something... -Lynx are you stupid? he told me he lost about 20-30 in his first two !@#$%^&*ing weeksthat's nto good Quote
»Lynx Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 No, I'm saying that root can lose weight without looking like a decompressed balloon... -Lynx Quote
Aileron Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Posted July 31, 2008 To answer some questions/comments made so far: The bodyfat requirement is rather complicated and varies by age and gender. They literally have a chart for it. First, there is a height/weight check, but if you are like me and fail that check due to massive muscles which weigh something but don't make you taller (okay, a heavy build), there's a neck/waist measurement check. There are also physical fitness requirements, also by chart. Generally 40 Pushups, 50 Situps, and running two miles within 15 minutes. While enlisted soldiers can get slack in terms of entrance requirements, officer candidates can't. Also, the requirements are a lot higher: College Degree, 3 letters of recommendation, 50 or higher on the ASVAB, a one page essay, both typed and handwritten*, and everything required of the enlisted soldiers, and then I have to interview three officers of rank Captain or higher. (*Sounds easy, but I had to re-handwrite the !@#$%^&* thing like ten times because I needed to get the one page typed essay to fit on on page handwritten, neat and legible. The pen I was using at first wasn't up to the task, because the width of the mark was too wide to write legibly at the font size needed.) Anyone 30 or higher can get in by age waiver. Also, those requirements are also what needs to be maintained to remain in the military, so those are directed to the people 40 years old who've been there for 10-20 years. I've already had to lose 40 lbs. just to make weight. I considered the Marines, but ultimately I have to consider my background. My education is in Math, and while my ASVAB score was nearly perfect in all categories, I'd probably be best suited for Military Intelligence. The Marines don't have a Military Intelligence division; they have infantry, infantry, infantry, some aviation, and infantry. All of the vital support functions for the Marines are done by the Navy. Simply put, if I signed up for Marine OCS, most likely I'd come out a Navy officer. Also, if I change my mind and want to be a elite special forces type, there's always the Rangers and Airborne. I also considered the NCO, but I'm not funny enough to be a Sergeant. Ofcourse, I could end up as an NCO if I wash out of OCS, but I'm not planning on failing. As for why I'm joining the Army, hey I just want to do something with my life. You only live once. Play it safe or play it dangerous, the outcome is death either way. Quote
FMBI Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Well, the trick with the Army is to get in (get the bonuses, any education benefits you may use in the future, get self-defense training if you're into that, get your body set in the "fitness zone" for the rest of your life) and then get out. If you don't, then one day you'll wake up in your 40s, and realize that being a Lt. Colonel doesn't really mean anything. One or two terms (course, you're going to be an officer, so you can just hop the train whenever) is the optimum. Beyond that, you're giving your life to an organization that, while it may be populated with caring people, is essentially uncaring by nature. Patriotism sucks when it accomplishes nothing for no one. Also - yeah, they have charts for everything. Most of them are designed to push people just as far as they can go without actually breaking down - mind games, but apparently they're effective. An example is how, in the SEALs, they put you in the water for varying times depending on water temperature, just so you can always get that nice arctic buzz. Quote
»Swift Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Aileron - GL in OCS. ----------------------- As for the difference between Marines and Army... the PT in the Marines is by far a little more rigorous but if you look at the difference between them doing Pull-ups and a 3-mile run whereas we do the push-up (Did I say 'we?' omg), sit-ups and 2-mile run. By far a lot of Marines actually FAILED the APFT (Army Physical Fitness Test) by a big margin in Airborne School because they aren't used to doing it the 'Army' way....yes even while you are in great shape you may fail just because we in the Army have a difference in physical standards. Now as to TRAINING in the Army, and the benefits the Army has. They are pretty good, yes there are bent rules and regulations... but hey, I got more training under MY belt because I have the job to do so. I sit in an office, work all day long and go home after work to see the wife. Training by far is not lacking in the military, it's the abuse of certain commands that infringe on the soldiers that could gain more knowledge if they had the resources and knowledge at there disposal to direct them to find the new bits of information and knowledge. Take for example this. I am a 25B, I have a security clearance and six years of Active Duty under the belt. Three deployments and no I haven't had the chance nor the opportunity for a fourth because they are being stingy with me now. I've gone to certification classes, TDY (Temporary Duty) to learn new equipment and be paid additionally just for leaving my post to go there and get the knowledge and the benefit of knowing new equipment so I am a highly adaptable person in each unit I go to. Along with that training, I have the knowledge and foresight to instruct others while maintaining my own area of expertise to keep me as a highly viable !@#$%^&*et in the organization I am a part of. Not only that, I have other resources at my disposal to help out others when they can't find the right answers or get the proper equipment working for the network they are !@#$%^&*ociated with. Benefits are getting better in the Army, as a matter of fact they passed a VA Bill for Post 9/11 Veterans. So when you get out you have full benefits for college plus more. Now with everything I said, it's up to your perspective to see and/or understand what it is to be in the Army. I get up at 4:15 am every morning, get ready for work, drive to work at 5:30 - on post at 6am and ready for PT by 6:30am. I get showered/changed and go to work at 9am and do my job !@#$%^&*ignments for the day then go home whenever that is. It's repe!@#$%^&*ive but the people you meet you never forget, some are cool, some are !@#$%^&*es... it's the military with everyone coming in from different walks of life but the truth of the matter is every brother and sister you meet are there to work with you and help you out just the same (Marines are just as similar and I've been Jointly !@#$%^&*igned with some in Japan) in case you thought I was making a difference between both Branches of the Armed Forces. Needless to say, I am going to be getting out I do not plan on being a 20 year person but from every bit of information I got or sought out I've done far better for my wife and I than I thought could ever come around. So with that I salute those that decide the military life is for them regardless of the times and troubles you may go through, there is always a reason to stick it out and get over it. And I'll finish this off by saying I do not use the !@#$%^&* word 'Hooah' it is not in my vocabulary. Quote
Chambahs Posted August 1, 2008 Report Posted August 1, 2008 Dont join the marines, ive got 6 friends in the marines, ive lived with them for over 6 months (if any of you remember my moving away to NC post a while back). I lived in Jacksonville, NC, home of the marines. Population = 97% marines. I can honestly say, I havent heard of one marine glad to be in the marines. Go army! Quote
rootbear75 Posted August 1, 2008 Report Posted August 1, 2008 (edited) I beg to differ; I've seen people roots size get themselves to a decent figure - but knowing root, I know he will never actually put the effort needed to get fit, because I know he will say "I don't have enough free time" or something... -Lynx are you stupid? he told me he lost about 20-30 in his first two !@#$%^&*ing weeksthat's nto goodi told u i lost 15 pounds in the first 3-4 weeks... good job screwing that up Edited August 1, 2008 by rootbear75 Quote
FMBI Posted August 1, 2008 Report Posted August 1, 2008 you stillf at so who cares!??? Translation: I like a man in uniform. Quote
»Lynx Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 you stillf at so who cares!??? Translation: I like a man in uniform. Correct Translation: As long as you don't hit me, anything goes... Quote
»Ducky Posted August 3, 2008 Report Posted August 3, 2008 Good Luck Ail. I hope you find whatever it is you're searching for. Quote
Aileron Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Posted August 6, 2008 To update this topic, I swore in yesterday. Yes, I've got the rank insignia as my avatar now. Call me an egoist if you want. The old one was getting old anyway. Quote
X`terrania Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 To update this topic, I swore in yesterday. Yes, I've got the rank insignia as my avatar now. Call me an egoist if you want. The old one was getting old anyway. Someone print screen this. Quote
CRe Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7707/aileronscreeniepq7.png Print Screened Quote
»Lynx Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 Wow, you put the extra effort in just to blur out the other posts? !@#$%^&*, that's.... -Lynx Quote
rootbear75 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Posted August 6, 2008 Wow, you put the extra effort in just to blur out the other posts? !@#$%^&*, that's.... -Lynxi do that as well (not posts, but other things mind you) Quote
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