Do you people wanna know why.....?

[Stylez]

Do you people wanna know why I rant on about laggers and cheaters and such?

 

Well for one, I'm one of the few oldies that haven't switched over to the kazaa/winamp/memory hacking/trainers/and such.....

 

But here are some reasons I argue so much about cheaters/laggers... like you people really care (Btw, when I say cheater, it could mean many of things, not that people are hacking or w/e)

 

1) Subspace is a real old game, doesn't demand much from your computer to run it. So no problems there.

 

2) Most people have DSL/Cable or better connections. I know some people still have 56k and lower connections but you can tell who does and who doesn't easily with them, their the ones lagging the most, but still having a hard time trying to play with it (like meks)....

 

3) Servers in the US now, and most poeple who play SS are in the US...

 

4) Theres already been a trainer made for it once, all you'd have to do is convert the trainer to the new coding for version .38 and so forth.... Maybe not all the cheats could get converted but a lot can, all you need is the version of the trainers SS edition and the new verison of SS and open them both in a dissambler and locate the old code and locate the new code, use a hex calculator to make a newdata code for it... real simple stuff....

 

5) People COMPLAIN aobut me COMPLAINING... doens't make much sense to me why someone would argue on for so long with me about something that just isn't true about them, werid huh?

 

6) Frames dont get checked by staff and can not be checked by staff, so people know this and try to work on frames instead of the lag itself... ( I know staff can make the frame limits different, but so can people who know how to set memory "hack")

 

7) SS servers only can afford pretty crappy servers with crappy firewalls on them. For an experienced hacker it wouldn't be to much of a problem to byp!@#$%^&* it and use something like softice on it to find out what codes to what in a game.

 

NO ONE SAYS LAGGER ANYMORE!! everyone says whiner now... I dont get how that could've changed, cuase theirs always going to be laggers, and people who complain about it, but yet theres more people complaining about people complaining then there are people complaiing about laggers... ohh I'm so confused...

 

9) Even with the new server changed, many of the "Veteran" finlanders and euros who had weird lag when the server was in finland, still have weird lags now. And they just cant seem to stop owning in whatever event they play in.

 

10) You can only get so good at this game before you understand how to point and shoot at someone and kill them, but yet some people say that you can go beyond that. Thats not true, this is a videogame, you can only do so much on it, yes some people know how to dodge, but they should be able to dodge only as fast as you can, but that doesn't seem to be the case in a lot of situations.

 

11) Play TW's, watch the so called veterans there, they all tank so bad there... I dunno, if you have half a sense of brain, you'd see that and not think it was just your imagination.

 

12) But the one thing that urkes me the most is that I've seen each and every one of you when you all first got dsl/cable and you all sucked becuase you ran smoothly on the screen. But now you jerk all over the screen and you own... You people most think me a fool to be so dumb as not to see that... I've played with you all long enough to realize something like that...

 

13) Back in the day no one used, kazza, until tapzu started winning lots of games and telling everyone he was d/ling stuff off of kazza, now everyone has kazza on there pc's and % of veterans play with it on... (kazza or some program they see makes them own better)

 

14) thats all......

 

But thats just some of the things I notice, oh well it's just a big conspiracy to me right? lol, I'm not that paranoid, I just have very good common sense when I see things.

 

But oh well, I'm spent...

Peace,

Stylez

[Supa Jerry^]

thats alot of stuff i didnt read all to lazy hehe >

[Zioneer]

Sigh.

 

I can't hold it inside much longer.... time has come to come clean, right here, right now.

 

I can not go on living in a lie like I have been for so long....

 

Joker, what can I say, you caught us.

 

We're all cheaters. It was planned years ago, everyone was given instructions on how to cheat by Elite One like 3 years ago, we were given software (the software has had a lot of different names, 2 I remember were Lagtronic and LEGO.exe), we were given tactics on now to play better with lag in events like rumble, and we were given contracts that we had to sign to SWEAR that we didn't tell you or people close to you about this. We were also told that we could only mention it outside of SubSpace.

 

I'm not really sure why Elite One chose you as victim, we were never given any straight answers..

 

Whenever someone asked EO "why Joker?" he said "be happy with what I gave you. I can take it away as fast as I gave it to you".

 

So we couldn't really complain man, we were given these awesome tools that made us so much better at SubSpace..

Oh and the addiction. I mean, after he gave us these things we could kill anything, we try to play without it, and it's like 'back to nubi status you go you little punk', and nobody wants to be a newbie.

 

Well, as time passed on, people started forgetting about the whole thing, and it was never mentioned again, it was an everyday thing you know.. we got used to it.

Before Elite One quit 17th and 17th Staff and went to SWR (where he also spread this), he trained his Illum goons to p!@#$%^&* this on, so that they could p!@#$%^&* it on to the newbies.

 

That explains why you always was attacked in groups.

 

He has done a pretty -*BAD WORD*- good job keeping this a secret.

What I can tell from my observations is that several major squad caps were trained by the Illums that EO trained.

The full list of squads who were (and still are, but under different squad names) in on this is way too long to list, but I'll list the major ones.

 

Regret (SWR squad)

The player "two_bottles" got caught and banned from league for inducing lag.

The Regret captain (Crucifix) actually used to play 17th (on the squad -=Fenrir=-) before this spread to SWR, he could've been trained before he moved, I'm not sure.

 

Monistary (DSB squad)

 

Ahh, the big Monistary. Skills? I THINK NOT.

It has been known for a very long time that Nyctophobiaz (Tapzu) and Arcane Tactics are cheaters, and everyone knew how.

I don't know how the owner (kemi) was informed and hooked to the plan, but I do know that he actually has. Ask Beer Hunter.

Arcane Tactics is actually Maharazi, who got banned from DSBL for cheating.

And of course, Tapzu being a captain here of the squad Epion, probably spread this to his members.

 

LEGO (DSB squad)

 

These fools were THIS CLOSE -> . <- to get caught by the DSB public.

A little more than a year ago, it was rumoured that LEGO was using a lagtronic type program that was known as "LEGO.exe", there was a complaint-post about it on the DSB Forums.

Fortunately, LEGOs are a bunch of jokers (specially the squad leader, Dead Fish!) so they all turned it into a joke, a LEGO member made the squad "LEGO.exe" and got some LEGOs to join it, in a sarcastic kind of way.

 

http://deathstarbattle.com/phpBB/viewtopic...963f5eaf96642b5

 

LEGO is now a SubSpace-wide squad with over 200 members.

 

Oo-AERA-oO (17th squad)

 

Do I really need to explain? Heh, we all know FLOo cheats, specially you Joker, you've known it all along.

lol why do you think you got booted from Aera?

 

@NIM@LS (17th squad)

 

-NT-

 

I could list a lot more squads but it would take way too long.

 

And that's pretty much it man, you deserve some credit for knowing it all along, you were one of the few in 17th who didn't know about this conspiracy, but still could feel it somehow.

 

You, Big D., Unison, Swordfish, those are all (worth to mention) that I can think of who don't know about it.

 

Me myself, I got hooked when I was playing as Geedion, I got hooked through Zeke when we both were newbies.

He was on Illum so that's why he got hooked before me.

Then I decided to create my own squad (Killum).

The idea was to make a real good pro squad WITHOUT any cheating (Hence Killum, Illum = Root Of All Evil).

 

But realized that there wasn't a chance for us to go anywhere without this, I really wanted to, but I just couldn't.

So I got XorX hooked.

 

And to you all who are still "playing along" oldies and newbies: I'm sorry, I really am, but I just couldn't keep this a secret anymore, I couldn't hold on, I had to let it all out.

I hope you understand.

 

I guess Elite One is going to shut down my ISP forever now *sigh* but I believe that it is time to stop pretending. Seriously people, it's too much, just look at him, he's had enough.

 

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

 

P.S. I just hope that you read this before they delete my post and shut down my ISP.

[Telson]

The Bigger your res is, the more better you become. Just a matter of getting use to it. simple is that. Someone with 1280x1024 can dodge better than someone at 1024x768 at a far range.

 

I dont lag (all the time) and im on a 28.8k

 

I was on illum when EO was around.. im not a goon

[Zioneer]

Sigh Telson.... come on man..

[Telson]

Come on ...? No Zio, you come on

[Cid Firefist]

Why dont u two just come on each other.....

[madhaha]

Woo. Conspiracy.

 

Cheating is easy. But its not fun. Everyone knows I know cheats. Everyone knows I don't use them.

 

Its amusing how all the biggest losers in the zone just got listed No surprises who gave out their "secrets" at EVERY opportunity.

[Tipme]

-*BAD WORD*-...i actually thought u guys were good

[Stylez]

Sigh.

 

I can't hold it inside much longer.... time has come to come clean, right here, right now.

 

I can not go on living in a lie like I have been for so long....

 

Joker, what can I say, you caught us.

 

We're all cheaters. It was planned years ago, everyone was given instructions on how to cheat by Elite One like 3 years ago, we were given software (the software has had a lot of different names, 2 I remember were Lagtronic and LEGO.exe), we were given tactics on now to play better with lag in events like rumble, and we were given contracts that we had to sign to SWEAR that we didn't tell you or people close to you about this. We were also told that we could only mention it outside of SubSpace.

 

I'm not really sure why Elite One chose you as victim, we were never given any straight answers..

 

Whenever someone asked EO "why Joker?" he said "be happy with what I gave you. I can take it away as fast as I gave it to you".

 

So we couldn't really complain man, we were given these awesome tools that made us so much better at SubSpace..

Oh and the addiction. I mean, after he gave us these things we could kill anything, we try to play without it, and it's like 'back to nubi status you go you little punk', and nobody wants to be a newbie.

 

Well, as time passed on, people started forgetting about the whole thing, and it was never mentioned again, it was an everyday thing you know.. we got used to it.

Before Elite One quit 17th and 17th Staff and went to SWR (where he also spread this), he trained his Illum goons to p!@#$%^&* this on, so that they could p!@#$%^&* it on to the newbies.

 

That explains why you always was attacked in groups.

 

He has done a pretty -*BAD WORD*- good job keeping this a secret.

What I can tell from my observations is that several major squad caps were trained by the Illums that EO trained.

The full list of squads who were (and still are, but under different squad names) in on this is way too long to list, but I'll list the major ones.

 

Regret (SWR squad)

The player "two_bottles" got caught and banned from league for inducing lag.

The Regret captain (Crucifix) actually used to play 17th (on the squad -=Fenrir=-) before this spread to SWR, he could've been trained before he moved, I'm not sure.

 

Monistary (DSB squad)

 

Ahh, the big Monistary. Skills? I THINK NOT.

It has been known for a very long time that Nyctophobiaz (Tapzu) and Arcane Tactics are cheaters, and everyone knew how.

I don't know how the owner (kemi) was informed and hooked to the plan, but I do know that he actually has. Ask Beer Hunter.

Arcane Tactics is actually Maharazi, who got banned from DSBL for cheating.

And of course, Tapzu being a captain here of the squad Epion, probably spread this to his members.

 

LEGO (DSB squad)

 

These fools were THIS CLOSE -> . <- to get caught by the DSB public.

A little more than a year ago, it was rumoured that LEGO was using a lagtronic type program that was known as "LEGO.exe", there was a complaint-post about it on the DSB Forums.

Fortunately, LEGOs are a bunch of jokers (specially the squad leader, Dead Fish!) so they all turned it into a joke, a LEGO member made the squad "LEGO.exe" and got some LEGOs to join it, in a sarcastic kind of way.

 

http://deathstarbattle.com/phpBB/viewtopic...963f5eaf96642b5

 

LEGO is now a SubSpace-wide squad with over 200 members.

 

Oo-AERA-oO (17th squad)

 

Do I really need to explain? Heh, we all know FLOo cheats, specially you Joker, you've known it all along.

lol why do you think you got booted from Aera?

 

@NIM@LS (17th squad)

 

-NT-

 

I could list a lot more squads but it would take way too long.

 

And that's pretty much it man, you deserve some credit for knowing it all along, you were one of the few in 17th who didn't know about this conspiracy, but still could feel it somehow.

 

You, Big D., Unison, Swordfish, those are all (worth to mention) that I can think of who don't know about it.

 

Me myself, I got hooked when I was playing as Geedion, I got hooked through Zeke when we both were newbies.

He was on Illum so that's why he got hooked before me.

Then I decided to create my own squad (Killum).

The idea was to make a real good pro squad WITHOUT any cheating (Hence Killum, Illum = Root Of All Evil).

 

But realized that there wasn't a chance for us to go anywhere without this, I really wanted to, but I just couldn't.

So I got XorX hooked.

 

And to you all who are still "playing along" oldies and newbies: I'm sorry, I really am, but I just couldn't keep this a secret anymore, I couldn't hold on, I had to let it all out.

I hope you understand.

 

I guess Elite One is going to shut down my ISP forever now *sigh* but I believe that it is time to stop pretending. Seriously people, it's too much, just look at him, he's had enough.

 

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

 

P.S. I just hope that you read this before they delete my post and shut down my ISP.

Holy -*BAD WORD*- man... That was a very exciting story. ummm, I know I type a lot, but its usually a long list of complaints... But you just typed a -*BAD WORD*-in book man, I mean come on, that's sad, you didn't even have to respond to this thread, but instead you wrote me a -*BAD WORD*-in fairytale (long run on sentence ) Very creative maka.

 

Well right now I'm a lil.... high... so yes I am typing very slow right now...

 

Screw this, I'm going to my nice warm bed...

 

Peace,

Stylez

[Zioneer]

Bah I was hoping you'd fall for it :1

 

Holy -*BAD WORD*- man... That was a very exciting story.  ummm' date=' I know I type a lot, but its usually a long list of complaints... But you just typed a -*BAD WORD*-in book man, I mean come on, that's sad, you didn't even have to respond to this thread, but instead you wrote me a -*BAD WORD*-in fairytale (long run on sentence [img']http://www.ssforum.net/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif[/img] ) Very creative maka.

 

Hehe Thank you! Well I was overtired when I typed it, took about 15 minutes http://www.hitemup.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

It's funny how your imagination is affected by your sleepiness!

Well anyways I just thought I'd spice up your usual complaint story, I think it was about time because it got boring very fast.

[KnightPhyre]

I cheat too. I dunno how...but I do. It's in my blood to cheat....oh wait...no I don't.

 

 

What was I thinking? Holy -*BAD WORD*-....

[Stylez]

People.... people do cheat on that game... It's surprising to me you all mock me about something so obvious. It's a game, made of all kinds of lil codes, so of course it's going to get hacked and have cheats made on it.

 

Anyways, just some of my opinions on why I think some of you people cheat/lag on purpose.

 

And yes maka your one of them, omfg.... Btw you said i've been saying you cheat forever... nah, only when you got dsl/cable and started off sucking with it, then a week later you got a lil laggier and actually was playing better... That's when I suspected you of it...

 

Yawn... just woke up,

Peace,

Stylez

[Stylez]

Oh yea maka, one thing about lego memebers... anyone can create something on a pc... even a fake lego.exe, I'm not saying they did use it or didn't use it, but if someone were to fool you by making a fake one and actually having a real one, well you'd just look like a -*BAD WORD*-...

 

Btw, imho, I think they do have one, I rally dooo... I'm sure out of allll the members they have, they have one that took his/her precious time to find out a way to cheat on SS and then give it out to all his buddies, then they thought of a good way to get people off their backs about it and just make some stoopid program (why would they go through all the trouble to prove someone wrong) and simple right click on it and rename it lego.exe.

 

But oh well, I can see your eyes glistening open with how much you care...

 

Peace,

Stylez

[talion]

stylez let it go, and maka as funny as the kinda was to read, don't lead on the mentally incapable like that

[madhaha]

BTW if anyone wants my copy of subseven LEGO.exe they're welcome to it

 

Do people want a minimum framerate limit? I'm not sure how long you're allowed to have a low framerate before you get kicked outl. Anyone experimented with a test server?

[Ladd]

yeah you can send me a copy of lego.exe i wanna be l33t and cool

[Zioneer]

I feel sorry for Shaylee råfls

[Stylez]

Whats all this gotta do with Ashley? I'm just like this on the internet, I'm a keeply different person "sorta" in real life....

 

But geez man, can't get her off your mind? I bet it enrages you that you can't have her and someone like me does.... am I right?

 

Either way, keep to the subject, stop trying to be the comical relief all the time...

 

I'm out,

Peace,

Stylez

[Zioneer]

No. This subject is as old as SubSpace. Let's talk about something new.

 

But geez man' date=' can't get her off your mind? bet it enrages you that you can't have her and someone like me does.... am I right?[/quote']

 

No. I don't get mad, I get sad.

So yes, I feel sorry for Shay.

 

Can I get her off my mind? Hm. What makes you ask that?

I think of Shay like I think of all my other sistas http://www.hitemup.com/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

[Stylez]

No. This subject is as old as SubSpace. Let's talk about something new.

 

But geez man' date=' can't get her off your mind? bet it enrages you that you can't have her and someone like me does.... am I right?[/quote']

 

No. I don't get mad, I get sad.

So yes, I feel sorry for Shay.

 

Can I get her off my mind? Hm. What makes you ask that?

I think of Shay like I think of all my other sistas http://www.hitemup.com/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Makaveli, I don't think once you've ever agree'd wit me, so why post on my topics? Your just going to critize whatever I do... get a life

 

Your such an annoying child. Your mom should reconsider about the abortion deal her doctor gave her, only $100 for a one of a kind abortioning closehanger, platinum spray paint edition

 

Well I'm done with talkin wit you's, good day...

 

Stylez

[Zioneer]

I've agreed with on different things several times in the past. Key word: past.

 

Makaveli' date=' I don't think once you've ever agree'd wit me, so why post on my topics?[/quote']

 

Oh, so I have to agree with you to post on your thread?

Why post a thread in the first place?

Why does the moon orbit around Earth and Earth around the sun?

 

Anyways, it's been clear to me for a very long time that you have some problems, mentally.

That's the most reasonable conclucion I can draw from observing how you interact here.

And I'm sure you have your reasons man, I don't doubt it, but you need to go back and deal with them.

..Then again, you probably don't even know about them, but I'm sure you do deep inside -_^

 

So seriously, I look at you as a sick person who needs help more than a jerk.

I'm just sorry I can't help you.

[Stylez]

I've agreed with on different things several times in the past. Key word: past.

 

Makaveli' date=' I don't think once you've ever agree'd wit me, so why post on my topics?[/quote']

 

Oh, so I have to agree with you to post on your thread?

Why post a thread in the first place?

Why does the moon orbit around Earth and Earth around the sun?

 

Anyways, it's been clear to me for a very long time that you have some problems, mentally.

That's the most reasonable conclucion I can draw from observing how you interact here.

And I'm sure you have your reasons man, I don't doubt it, but you need to go back and deal with them.

..Then again, you probably don't even know about them, but I'm sure you do deep inside -_^

 

So seriously, I look at you as a sick person who needs help more than a jerk.

I'm just sorry I can't help you.

I probably do have problems, but who's to say you don't? I'm an ex-druggie, I have the right to act re-*BAD WORD*-ed.

 

Anyways, PLEASE just go away....!! I'm sure you've heard that more then once from people....

 

Now shooo, skidataal...

 

Stop getting on my jock all the time...

 

Thank you,

Stylez

[Zioneer]

I probably do have problems' date=' but who's to say you don't?[/quote']

 

I can say that I don't have any mental problems.

 

I'm an ex-druggie' date=' I have the right to act re-*BAD WORD*-ed.[/quote']

 

That's not a very strong argument. Sure, you have a right to be re-*BAD WORD*-ed, but if your re-*BAD WORD*-ation extends to the point where people can't enjoy a simple game, then you shouldn't have a right to be here.

You should do something about it instead. I'm sure you don't feel very good the way you are.

 

Anyways' date=' PLEASE just go away....!!  I'm sure you've heard that more then once from people....[/quote']

 

Yes, I'm sure I'm a pain in the äss to some people, but hey, I'm only being real.

But uh, why should I go away? Aren't you the one who's banned from 17th?

[Stylez]

MAKA SHUT THE -*BAD WORD*- UP!! I mean for real man, give it up, this had nothing to do with you.

 

I'm 20 years old, don't have -*BAD WORD*- to do, but play online or watch t.v. or something. Your what 16/17? You should be out getting some -*BAD WORD*- or communicating with your fellow peers.

 

I'm an old man makaveli, I deserve a lil PEACE AND -*BAD WORD*-ING QUITE!!! Now go the -*BAD WORD*- away....

 

If I feel like complaining on a free online game, give me that decentcy to do that, all you have to do is ?ignore Stylez, it's that -*BAD WORD*-ing simple. Now go away, you annoy me.

 

Peace,

Stylez

 

P.S. You always seem to turn my topics into a bunch of flame topics, just mind your business and go away (please don't quote me on any of this, just go....away.....) Thank you....