»Lynx Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 OKay - I've just come back from a few days of in-activity, so I pop into Continuum to catch up... anyway, as conversations go on, I ask Aceflyer if I'm still ignored... 4:L Y N X> Aceflyer, am I still on your ignore.txt?4:CRe>> I think you still are4:L Y N X> Good4:Aceflyer> L Y N X I !@#$%^&*ing swear if you keep evading my ignore I'm going to get you netbanned.4:L Y N X> Hahahha4:CRe>> Rofl4:L Y N X> Quoted So yeah, anybody with even a basic understanding of how the chat client works, will understand that the ignore is enforced by the client (continuum) on the users (Aceflyers, in this case) computer. Anyway, so there's the first accusation of a netban. So, as usual, I just think it's a newb being a newb, and it's not the first time a power-mongering transparent fool has threatened to netban me, so I laugh it off, in-fact, pretty much the whole chat laughs it off, and we resume in our general conversation... 4:CRe>> he has lynx on ignore4:CRe>> the ignore isnt working4:Cerium> clearly lynx is hacking4:CRe>> ace thinks lynx is evading the ignore.4:L Y N X> pwnace.exe4:L Y N X> I c0d3d 1t in VB++4:L Y N X> IR1337 now?4:Cerium> no4:Cerium> but you'd be 1337 if it was lolcode4:L Y N X> ... You get the jist... Anybody with any kind of basic human comprehension would understand that these are jokes too... But, meh... I guess that some people have to use Crayons for longer than others in classrooms, so for the special people (person) who did not understand that this was a joke... It was a joke. Anywho, swiftly moving on... #2498 by Nighthawk 2008-07-05 20:57 days:1 ##.##.##.##:8 L Y N X #2498 access:4 by Nighthawk 2008-07-05 20:57 days:1 ##.##.##.##:8 mid:######### L Y N X pm spamming and changing names ^^ Eh??? OKay, people make mistakes... That's understandable... but this is more than a mistake. Nighthawk... You just !@#$%^&*ed up. Firstly, you're a re!@#$%^&*. Before you make a netban, you should understand that conflicts between people often do cause clouded judgements - Aceflyer is hated by more than a small group of people, and as I stated at the beginning of the post - I've not been on-line for a while. I'd love for a biller op to cross check my IP and MacID or even IP Range for the last few times I was actually connected to the biller, just so we can all laugh at how computer illiterate Nighthawk is a little more for making this pathetic excuse for a ban. Also, my IP has not changed in the past few weeks, so it should be easy to check for any other aliases logging in. Anyway, let me explain how it "works", just for you Nighthawk... If somebody is getting cross-zone spammed, you find out their alias by reverse engineering past all of the %%%% signs that they were using (Yes, I was informed that I was apparently using %%%% enabled aliases to spam Aceflyer) - then, with that information, you talk to a billing op, who then enters that alias into the biller, and cross checks for IP/MID/IP Range/IDData matches - with that data matching, it is then safe to make a netban. However, you can't just go on a whim, and ban people as you like because they "might" be the type of person to flame Aceflyer due to the conflicts, as that is what most people would call "re!@#$%^&*ed behaviour"... I hope you're following Nighthawk, if not, PM me and I'll draw you some nice pictures with annotation so you can understand better. Secondly, I've never "har!@#$%^&*ed" Aceflyer using any alias, let alone any alias other than L Y N X - we've had conversations, and we agreed to stop flaming each other, however, he then started flaming me again, so I kindly returned the favour. If you can provide any evidence of me doing otherwise, I'll be more than happy to prove that evidence as false. Also, to Aceflyer - please show me how I "admitted" to spamming you, and further more, if you can't take people talking !@#$%^&* to you on the internet, then don't initiate the !@#$%^&* with them. I'd also like to take this time to say that I've never actually done anything "over the top" to Aceflyer, he's just a sensitive little girl about his e-reputation. Furthermore, Nighthawk, I'd love if you could reply to me instead of pming me back when I say "Hey" but then freezing up when I actually ask you about your actions. Cheers, it's been fun -Lynx
CRe Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Yeh I'm quite disappointed in Aceflyer for going this far without any proof.
X`terrania Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Lol, this is incredibly sad. This Aceflyer kid seriously needs a good talking to, and Nighthawk needs whatever powers he has removed. Ace do you even know anything about Continuum or the outside world? You play the game constantly and bug the !@#$%^&* out of people, yet you seem to have no general understanding of how any of it works.
»D1st0rt Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 What's the point of netbanning somebody when it won't alleviate any of the alleged problems
»Lynx Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 Lol, this is incredibly sad. This Aceflyer kid seriously needs a good talking to, and Nighthawk needs whatever powers he has removed. Ace do you even know anything about Continuum or the outside world? You play the game constantly and bug the !@#$%^&* out of people, yet you seem to have no general understanding of how any of it works. Well, he obviously has no understanding of how the ignore feature works - otherwise I wouldn't be net banned for whatever I'm net banned for... Another note, nighthawk, your ban comment is about as reliable as a water baloon. -Lynx
Cancer+ Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Another note, nighthawk, your ban comment is about as reliable as a water baloon. -Lynx EDIT: Changed this based on future events. Surprised me. And Aceflyer...wow. You might be the biggest crybaby on the internet. Hope you move up far in the world of Continuum. Good life there.
»Lynx Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 I PM'd Nighthawk as soon as I found out that he net banned me. Ab asino lanam P :Nighthawk:HeyP (Nighthawk)>?P :Nighthawk:interesting netban, wondering if you could elaborate.P :Nighthawk:Actually - I'd love to see some proof of me logging into any zone with the same IP/MACID.. heck... Even IP Range within the last... few days maybe?? P :Nighthawk:I guess the silence, is a way of saying that you might have actually !@#$%^&*ed up, right?P :Nighthawk:That there isn't actually any evidence of me spamming Aceflyer in private message, and there's no evidence of me ever har!@#$%^&*ing him in a way that he can't just ?ignore me...P :Nighthawk:and that he in-fact, has just not ignored me, and pulled the "OMG LYNX IS HACKING TO AVOID MY IGNORE" stunt on you, to get me netbanned.P :Nighthawk:ergo, making you a laughing stock.. P :Nighthawk:It was a pleasure. That's as far as warning went, and I suppose in this case, is as far as warning will go. No doubt Nighthawk will face no repercussions as the ban was only a day, but I guess that will only publicly show exactly how !@#$%^&*ed up the SSC still is, even with SVS out of the picture. Good job night, you done well. -Lynx
NightHawk Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I can see you're worked up, this is understandable. If a sysop of another SSC zone comes to me, and makes a request for a netban, and I have dealt with that sysop in the past, I will usually trust that what they are telling me is true and make the ban. In this case, I have made bans for aceflyer in the past (all cheating bans), so when this one came up, he !@#$%^&*ured me that you were the one doing the spamming, and that he had given you a warning, so I made the ban. This is a case where I placed some trust in aceflyer, but it seems it may been a mistake, as this whole situation is messy. The ban is no longer in place. I am a reasonable person, and I hope you can see this from my side.
MikeTheNose Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Now just do everyone a favor and stop talking to aceflyer.
»Lynx Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 (edited) I can see you're worked up, this is understandable. If a sysop of another SSC zone comes to me, and makes a request for a netban, and I have dealt with that sysop in the past, I will usually trust that what they are telling me is true and make the ban. In this case, I have made bans for aceflyer in the past (all cheating bans), so when this one came up, he !@#$%^&*ured me that you were the one doing the spamming, and that he had given you a warning, so I made the ban. This is a case where I placed some trust in aceflyer, but it seems it may been a mistake, as this whole situation is messy. The ban is no longer in place. I am a reasonable person, and I hope you can see this from my side. Meh, if you had talked to me initially, I'm sure it would have all be fixed before this, I guess it's just a lesson learned. Cheers, -Lynx ----Also, MTN - I'm not sure exactly what message you're trying to convey, and I'm not sure exactly how much you know of who initiates the talking and who doesn't - so I'll ignore my urge to retort to that comment. Edited July 5, 2008 by Lynx
Dr Brain Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Also, MTN - I'm not sure exactly what message you're trying to convey, and I'm not sure exactly how much you know of who initiates the talking and who doesn't - so I'll ignore my urge to retort to that comment.He was talking to nighthawk, not you.
Suicide_Run Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Lulz indeed. I assume Aceflyer isn't your everyday love-able person eh?
»D1st0rt Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Actually I think he might have been talking to Lynx since this all stems from a har!@#$%^&*ment claim
PoLiX Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I'm |-| close to fixing Aceflyer's alias to !@#$%^&*spawn1440... or !@#$%^&*spawn1440 v2.0? Everything I've seen lately reminds me so much of him in his early days.
»Ducky Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 The only topic worth being in trash talk and it's not. I feel a tear coming.
»Lynx Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Posted July 5, 2008 Also, MTN - I'm not sure exactly what message you're trying to convey, and I'm not sure exactly how much you know of who initiates the talking and who doesn't - so I'll ignore my urge to retort to that comment.He was talking to nighthawk, not you. Maybe
Audry Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I'm |-| close to fixing Aceflyer's alias to !@#$%^&*spawn1440... or !@#$%^&*spawn1440 v2.0? Everything I've seen lately reminds me so much of him in his early days. I choked on my drink when i saw this comment ... thanks Polix, now there is wine all over the place
X`terrania Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I'm |-| close to fixing Aceflyer's alias to !@#$%^&*spawn1440... or !@#$%^&*spawn1440 v2.0? Everything I've seen lately reminds me so much of him in his early days. I choked on my drink when i saw this comment ... thanks Polix, now there is wine all over the place haha sweety, that isnt wine i just gave you
CRe Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I'm |-| close to fixing Aceflyer's alias to !@#$%^&*spawn1440... or !@#$%^&*spawn1440 v2.0? Everything I've seen lately reminds me so much of him in his early days. Haha that would be hilarious.
MikeTheNose Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 Actually I think he might have been talking to Lynx since this all stems from a har!@#$%^&*ment claim My comment applies to both.
Aceflyer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Posted July 6, 2008 I can't believe this nonsense. In the first place this thread shouldn't even be here. SSC netban disputes are supposed to occur via a netban dispute ticket. In any case, I will attempt to illustrate some of the facts surrounding this situation. , so I pop into Continuum to catch up... anyway, as conversations go on, I ask Aceflyer if I'm still ignored... If you are ignored, I'm not supposed to be able to see messages from your alias. The fact that you were on my ignore.txt, that you knew you were on my ignore.txt, and yet were able to force me to see your messages - against my will - indicates a willful attempt at evading my ignore. So yeah, anybody with even a basic understanding of how the chat client works, will understand that the ignore is enforced by the client (continuum) on the users (Aceflyers, in this case) computer. Anyway, so there's the first accusation of a netban. So, as usual, I just think it's a newb being a newb, and it's not the first time a power-mongering transparent fool has threatened to netban me, so I laugh it off, in-fact, pretty much the whole chat laughs it off, and we resume in our general conversation... How am I being a newb exactly? When players put someone on ignore.txt they expect that they will not have to see any further messages on Continuum from said ignored person. Cross-zone evasion of a zone sysop's ignore, with accompanied 'wisecracking' (which I deem har!@#$%^&*ment, due to the evasion of ignore), which continues after a clear warning to stop, is a netbannable offense. 4:CRe>> he has lynx on ignore4:CRe>> the ignore isnt working4:Cerium> clearly lynx is hacking4:CRe>> ace thinks lynx is evading the ignore.4:L Y N X> pwnace.exe4:L Y N X> I c0d3d 1t in VB++4:L Y N X> IR1337 now?4:Cerium> no4:Cerium> but you'd be 1337 if it was lolcode4:L Y N X> I knew the above 'hacking comments' were jokes. Did I ever indicate that I believed that bull? #2498 by Nighthawk 2008-07-05 20:57 days:1 ##.##.##.##:8 L Y N X #2498 access:4 by Nighthawk 2008-07-05 20:57 days:1 ##.##.##.##:8 mid:######### L Y N X pm spamming and changing names I never accused L Y N X of "pm spamming." I did not tell Nighthawk what to put in the ban comment. The relevant excerpts from logs: P :Nighthawk:Hi?C 4:Nighthawk> ?C 4:Aceflyer> Can someone be netbanned if they use % etc. to repeatedly evade ignores?C 4:Aceflyer> and har!@#$%^&* me while doing that?C 4:Chambahs> yesC 4:Aceflyer> Really?C 4:Aceflyer> In that case - could you netban L Y N X? He won't quit doing it. I can't ?ignore or ignore.txt him succesfully because of his % tactics.C 4:Nighthawk> why is he doing it? i bet if you just ignore him he would stopC 4:Aceflyer> He's trying to tick me off by cir!@#$%^&*venting my ignore.txt.C 4:Aceflyer> It's just highly annoying. I'm not really responding to him but I don't want to leave 2 chats because of his behavior.C 4:Nighthawk> warn him that he could get netbanned if he still does it, and if he continues ill add a banC 4:Aceflyer> I already did. He hasn't stopped.C 4:Nighthawk> fine whats his ip/mid, i only have an old copyC 4:Aceflyer> secP :Nighthawk:[ip snipped] ip, [mid snipped] midP :Nighthawk:Many thanks, I appreciate it. That's all. As you can see I represented the situation accurately. Nowhere did I state that L Y N X was har!@#$%^&*ing me via cross-zone PMs. and as I stated at the beginning of the post - I've not been on-line for a while. I'd love for a biller op to cross check my IP and MacID or even IP Range for the last few times I was actually connected to the biller, just so we can all laugh at how computer illiterate Nighthawk is a little more for making this pathetic excuse for a ban. Also, my IP has not changed in the past few weeks, so it should be easy to check for any other aliases logging in. Generally netbans are made without first checking with a biller op. Or do you seriously believe BlueGoku/Mackieman get bothered every single time a netban is being made? And didn't you just admit to evading my ignore? You asked me if you were still on my ignore. You should not have been able to ask me that, since you were, in fact, still on my ignore. If somebody is getting cross-zone spammed, you find out their alias by reverse engineering past all of the %%%% signs that they were using (Yes, I was informed that I was apparently using %%%% enabled aliases to spam Aceflyer) - then, with that information, you talk to a billing op, who then enters that alias into the biller, and cross checks for IP/MID/IP Range/IDData matches - with that data matching, it is then safe to make a netban. Generally netbans are made without first checking with a biller op. Or do you seriously believe BlueGoku/Mackieman get bothered every single time a cross-zone spamming netban is being made? Furthermore you weren't 'informed' of anything. You said (in a post you made on the SSC Forum) that that was how you were doing it. Secondly, I've never "har!@#$%^&*ed" Aceflyer using any alias, let alone any alias other than L Y N X - we've had conversations, and we agreed to stop flaming each other, however, he then started flaming me again, so I kindly returned the favour. If you can provide any evidence of me doing otherwise, I'll be more than happy to prove that evidence as false. Flaming isn't the issue. Cross-zone evasion of ignore is the issue.
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