rootbear75 Posted June 30, 2008 Report Posted June 30, 2008 i used to be on Adderall for ADD as well. My doctor stopped prescribing it because of the effect it had on high blood pressure.
X`terrania Posted June 30, 2008 Report Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) I figured something was up, you started rambling on in private messages for a good 50-60 minutes about yer past, and then started arguing with random people about politics. Now the problem with yer soda drinking is that whenever I talk to you you only seem to be drinking diet soda (which is bad), and when you constantly drink something with caffeine you're going to be pissing it out nonstop, and when you finally do get another liquid into you your body will begin to horde it thinking it's the last real drop of water you're going to get for awhile. Anyways you shouldn't be consuming more than 500mg of sodium in the first place, and yeah with the amount you're consuming yer definitely gonna withhold water, plus the combination of yer caffeine pops doesn't help you at all really. Wait what? I'm not even talking about you're problem, wtf? Anyways, maybe give up yer diet pops and keep taking adderall to see if your symptoms stay (might be a bad mixing, er dah aspartame and the adderall not getting along) or maybe you're just allergic to it..? plus i suggest doing some googling on sodium and hypertension, U DO take in way too much sodium in ur current state, now if you were an athlete and were gonna be sweating all the sodium out then i'd say it's fine, but ur rly sedentary and that sodium is barely going anywhere ;/ Edited June 30, 2008 by X`terrania
FMBI Posted June 30, 2008 Report Posted June 30, 2008 So, did you actually notice any extensive side-effects before you read about it, or might this just be some minor side-effects that you're mentally inflating?
darkhosis Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Posted June 30, 2008 I figured something was up, you started rambling on in private messages for a good 50-60 minutes about yer past, and then started arguing with random people about politics. Now the problem with yer soda drinking is that whenever I talk to you you only seem to be drinking diet soda (which is bad), and when you constantly drink something with caffeine you're going to be pissing it out nonstop, and when you finally do get another liquid into you your body will begin to horde it thinking it's the last real drop of water you're going to get for awhile. Anyways you shouldn't be consuming more than 500mg of sodium in the first place, and yeah with the amount you're consuming yer definitely gonna withhold water, plus the combination of yer caffeine pops doesn't help you at all really. Wait what? I'm not even talking about you're problem, wtf? Anyways, maybe give up yer diet pops and keep taking adderall to see if your symptoms stay (might be a bad mixing, er dah aspartame and the adderall not getting along) or maybe you're just allergic to it..? plus i suggest doing some googling on sodium and hypertension, U DO take in way too much sodium in ur current state, now if you were an athlete and were gonna be sweating all the sodium out then i'd say it's fine, but ur rly sedentary and that sodium is barely going anywhere ;/Well, the soda has some sodium in it too, but only 2%. Say I drink 6 a day. That's 12%. I imagine from the food I eat, I get about another, uh, 150-200% of my daily recommend dose of sodium. So, yeah, I'm taking in too much salt. But that's supposed to raise your blood pressure, not lower it. From the snopes article: The average person retains about half to two-thirds the amount of fluid taken in by consuming these types of beverages, and those who regularly consume caffeinated drinks retain even more: Regular coffee and tea drinkers become accustomed to caffeine and lose little, if any, fluid. In a study published in the October issue of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition, researchers at the Center for Human Nutrition in Omaha measured how different combinations of water, coffee and caffeinated sodas affected the hydration status of 18 healthy adults who drink caffeinated beverages routinely. "We found no significant differences at all," says nutritionist Ann Grandjean, the study's lead author. "The purpose of the study was to find out if caffeine is dehydrating in healthy people who are drinking normal amounts of it. It is not." The same goes for tea, juice, milk and caffeinated sodas: One gl!@#$%^&* provides about the same amount of hydrating fluid as a gl!@#$%^&* of water. The only common drinks that produce a net loss of fluids are those containing alcohol and usually it takes more than one of those to cause noticeable dehydration, doctors say. The best /general/ advice (keeping in mind that there are always exceptions) is to rely upon your normal senses. If you feel thirsty, drink; if you don't feel thirsty, don't drink unless you want to. Now you can note where it says "normal amounts" of caffeine. I don't know what a normal amount of caffeine is. I know 6 sodas isn't a whole lot though. Diet Coke has 45 milligrams of caffeine per can (I guess Coke Zero is the same), so I consume about 250-300mg a day. I wouldn't call that an overly excessive amount. !@#$%^&*, most of those caffeine pills are 200mg each. Some Starbucks coffees have over 300 in one cup. There are tons of energy drinks that have 300 or even more (Fixx, Redline, etc). Plus my 250-300 mg is spread out over a whole day. I guess I should also note that I hadn't consumed alcohol in over a week or two prior to the meeting w/ my doctor. Since it does mention it in that snopes article, hah. Anyway, my problem isn't with hypertension... it's (possible) hypotension. My blood pressure is too low or maybe it's not. Like I said, I don't have any of the symptoms so I'm probably just blowing smoke at a problem that doesn't exist, should I even be worried unless I start randomly passing out or feeling dizzy? I just know it's been eating at me a bit. I'm thinking maybe that was an "extra" reason for the doctor prescribing me Adderall, since one of the major side effects of stimulants is (increasing) blood pressure. He was actually talking about prescribing me Dexosyn, which I had never heard of at the time... but now understand (could be wrong) to be the most potent and most abused medication for ADD/narcolepsy after doing some research since Thurs. I'll also say that I've never been diagnosed with narcolepsy (or possible ADD) before, so this is a first as far as my medical jacket goes... Psych when I was 17 said I had major depression disorder. Psych at Texas A&M said I had major depression disorder and general anxiety disorder. Psych at prison said I had major depression disorder with psychotic symptoms, GAD, and panic disorder. I've been on just about every anti-depressant you can think of though, but the last I stopped taking about a month ago (Lexapro - I believe a side effect of this *is* low blood pressure, but I've been off it a while). Uh, have been on Wellbutrin, Prozac, Paxil, Nortripaline (sp?), Effexor, other stuff I probably don't remember since I was 17. None really worked. Neither did anti-anxiety meds like Buspar and Xanax (I believe Wellbutrin is supposed to hit this area as well). The last 4 or 5 days I've felt the best I have in probably a decade and have actually been busy doing things instead of sleeping all day. One example, hadn't played poker in 3 months. Last 3 days, I'm up about $500 since I've actually had the motivation/energy/attentiveness to sit on my !@#$%^&* and grind out tables for about 4 hours a day, although I've only been playing 3 tables at once instead of my customary 5-6 as I try to get back in the swing of things. !@#$%^&*, for Picard or anyone that might know what I'm talking about: 50 single table sit n go tournaments. Buy-in's + fees = $1900 (avg buy in $38 - this includes some $25, $35, and $55 tourneys). Amount won $2461.50. Net profit $561.50. ROI (return on investment) 29.55%. 9 - 1st place, 6 - 2nd place, 8 - 3rd place. Avg finish 4.18. This is from my pokertracker stats for the last 3 days. I deleted all my old hand history info since it was a bit outdated. I'm not sure if I'm finally feeling like a "normal" person would (ie not constantly tired, unmotivated, depressed) or I'm just high off my meds though. I guess we'll find out if it keeps working. The doc did say you develop a tolerance so he recommended taking for a week or two, skipping for a few days, etc. as a way to stop the tolerance from building. It's really been quite amazing to be able to stay up the whole day without taking a 6 hour "nap".... I'm guessing Root was taken off Adderall for having high blood pressure. Not because of low blood pressure. That was basically what I was aiming at... I dunno if that influenced the doc or not. But he did mention that my blood pressure was really low, and asked me 5 or 6 questions, don't remember them all.. the passing out thing, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc, etc. And, yeah, I think I might be inventing a little lightheadedness now since he brought those up.. hahaha. Anyhoo.. I've done a little more digging and found lots of msgs of ppl concerned about increase in blood pressure after taking Adderall. So I imagine it couldn't hurt.
X`terrania Posted June 30, 2008 Report Posted June 30, 2008 Still, hosis, go on continuum though, and everyone's different in terms of side effects and reactions. Why do some people have constipation with cow's milk, and the other half have diarrhea? Everyone is different yo
Hellonearth Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 trying to make a 2nd trolling attempt by asking advice about some dissease/whatever is lame gtfo atleast TRP's worked
Samapico Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 HERE AT SSFORUM WE TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AND LIVERS
X`terrania Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 HERE AT SSFORUM WE TALK ABOUT SPACESHIPS AND LIVERS SUBSPACE,MEET PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.. AND THEN DIAGNOSE THEIR MEDICAL CONDITION.
JDS Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 alas samapico, you would have to have read this thread to know why its funny
Samapico Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 Who are you to know if I read or not the thread?
rootbear75 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 I'm guessing Root was taken off Adderall for having high blood pressure. Not because of low blood pressure. That was basically what I was aiming at... I dunno if that influenced the doc or not. But he did mention that my blood pressure was really low, and asked me 5 or 6 questions, don't remember them all.. the passing out thing, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc, etc. And, yeah, I think I might be inventing a little lightheadedness now since he brought those up.. hahaha.thats precisely why i was taken off.Actually, it wasnt really up for the doctor to decide whether i was taken off of it (that decision went to the psychiatrist i had at the time). He just advised me that it was not good for my health to continue to be on it.i have high blood pressure. runs in my family, and my weight also contributes, as well as my diet.
darkhosis Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) I'm guessing Root was taken off Adderall for having high blood pressure. Not because of low blood pressure. That was basically what I was aiming at... I dunno if that influenced the doc or not. But he did mention that my blood pressure was really low, and asked me 5 or 6 questions, don't remember them all.. the passing out thing, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc, etc. And, yeah, I think I might be inventing a little lightheadedness now since he brought those up.. hahaha.thats precisely why i was taken off.Actually, it wasnt really up for the doctor to decide whether i was taken off of it (that decision went to the psychiatrist i had at the time). He just advised me that it was not good for my health to continue to be on it.i have high blood pressure. runs in my family, and my weight also contributes, as well as my diet.!@#$%^&* i had some msg typed out and just as i was about to submit power blacked out for 2 sec. oh well. anyway, basically. i decided to take some action about this and got me an "at home" blood pressure monitoring system, pretty good one that should be fairly accurate. ive found that after taking the adderall and when its impacts are at the highest, ive gotten up to ~105/~85 w/ a "resting" pulse rate of ~90, that's a stimulant for you i guess. usually in the morning it's at it's lowest, and this morning was the lowest ive seen since buying it actually, that was 85/58 pulse 72. thats not too bad, and it's not nearly as low as it was at that one point. plus i havent really been having any side effects !@#$%^&*ociated with low blood pressure anyways. i asked my dad about blood pressure history in family, nobody he knows of has ever had any problems with high or low blood pressure in the family besides himself. he said he's been treated with hypotension. he said he felt "cold and clammy" and went to doc, and his blood pressure was 65/40 or some !@#$%^&* but that's only been in the last 5 years. im guessin that's more of an age issue then anything really genetic as he's approaching (i was born when he was almost 50). anyway, troll post? weh? (ps - also found webmd like 2 days ago too. yah, that is a good site. i was just reading too much !@#$%^&* from quacked out crap like yahoo answers) Edited July 3, 2008 by darkhosis
JDS Posted July 4, 2008 Report Posted July 4, 2008 (edited) Who are you to know if I read or not the thread? whaat? edit- you missed the point, it was not offensive, just pointing out somthing. Edited July 4, 2008 by JDS
X`terrania Posted July 4, 2008 Report Posted July 4, 2008 I'm guessing Root was taken off Adderall for having high blood pressure. Not because of low blood pressure. That was basically what I was aiming at... I dunno if that influenced the doc or not. But he did mention that my blood pressure was really low, and asked me 5 or 6 questions, don't remember them all.. the passing out thing, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc, etc. And, yeah, I think I might be inventing a little lightheadedness now since he brought those up.. hahaha.thats precisely why i was taken off.Actually, it wasnt really up for the doctor to decide whether i was taken off of it (that decision went to the psychiatrist i had at the time). He just advised me that it was not good for my health to continue to be on it.i have high blood pressure. runs in my family, and my weight also contributes, as well as my diet.!@#$%^&* i had some msg typed out and just as i was about to submit power blacked out for 2 sec. oh well. anyway, basically. i decided to take some action about this and got me an "at home" blood pressure monitoring system, pretty good one that should be fairly accurate. ive found that after taking the adderall and when its impacts are at the highest, ive gotten up to ~105/~85 w/ a "resting" pulse rate of ~90, that's a stimulant for you i guess. usually in the morning it's at it's lowest, and this morning was the lowest ive seen since buying it actually, that was 85/58 pulse 72. thats not too bad, and it's not nearly as low as it was at that one point. plus i havent really been having any side effects !@#$%^&*ociated with low blood pressure anyways. i asked my dad about blood pressure history in family, nobody he knows of has ever had any problems with high or low blood pressure in the family besides himself. he said he's been treated with hypotension. he said he felt "cold and clammy" and went to doc, and his blood pressure was 65/40 or some !@#$%^&* but that's only been in the last 5 years. im guessin that's more of an age issue then anything really genetic as he's approaching (i was born when he was almost 50). anyway, troll post? weh? (ps - also found webmd like 2 days ago too. yah, that is a good site. i was just reading too much !@#$%^&* from quacked out crap like yahoo answers) you'd be surprised by how little of a factor age can play sometimes, my aunt dora is around 90 and she doesn't need a wheel chair or crutches or any !@#$%^&*istance really, her heart/blood pressure/health etc are completely fine. and if i had to guess she'll be one of those super centarians in years to come.eat wisely, live wisely, and act according to the guides of wisdom and u will find urself happiness and great longevity my texan friend. (also diet is related to weight)
rootbear75 Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 I'm guessing Root was taken off Adderall for having high blood pressure. Not because of low blood pressure. That was basically what I was aiming at... I dunno if that influenced the doc or not. But he did mention that my blood pressure was really low, and asked me 5 or 6 questions, don't remember them all.. the passing out thing, dizziness, lightheadedness, etc, etc. And, yeah, I think I might be inventing a little lightheadedness now since he brought those up.. hahaha.thats precisely why i was taken off.Actually, it wasnt really up for the doctor to decide whether i was taken off of it (that decision went to the psychiatrist i had at the time). He just advised me that it was not good for my health to continue to be on it.i have high blood pressure. runs in my family, and my weight also contributes, as well as my diet.!@#$%^&* i had some msg typed out and just as i was about to submit power blacked out for 2 sec. oh well. anyway, basically. i decided to take some action about this and got me an "at home" blood pressure monitoring system, pretty good one that should be fairly accurate. ive found that after taking the adderall and when its impacts are at the highest, ive gotten up to ~105/~85 w/ a "resting" pulse rate of ~90, that's a stimulant for you i guess. usually in the morning it's at it's lowest, and this morning was the lowest ive seen since buying it actually, that was 85/58 pulse 72. thats not too bad, and it's not nearly as low as it was at that one point. plus i havent really been having any side effects !@#$%^&*ociated with low blood pressure anyways. i asked my dad about blood pressure history in family, nobody he knows of has ever had any problems with high or low blood pressure in the family besides himself. he said he's been treated with hypotension. he said he felt "cold and clammy" and went to doc, and his blood pressure was 65/40 or some !@#$%^&* but that's only been in the last 5 years. im guessin that's more of an age issue then anything really genetic as he's approaching (i was born when he was almost 50). anyway, troll post? weh? (ps - also found webmd like 2 days ago too. yah, that is a good site. i was just reading too much !@#$%^&* from quacked out crap like yahoo answers) you'd be surprised by how little of a factor age can play sometimes, my aunt dora is around 90 and she doesn't need a wheel chair or crutches or any !@#$%^&*istance really, her heart/blood pressure/health etc are completely fine. and if i had to guess she'll be one of those super centarians in years to come.eat wisely, live wisely, and act according to the guides of wisdom and u will find urself happiness and great longevity my texan friend. (also diet is related to weight)kinda like that guy who is 90 and only eats bread soaked in fatback and a carton of wine everyday who is still very healthy?
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