Barrack Obama 46% Arabic

[AstroProdigy]

Agreeing with the Democrats doesn't make you liberal. In fact, as a liberal I can tell you the Democrats are far from liberal and voting with them makes you only left leaning. It's Republicans who fly off the wall. Btw as a white man you have no idea what the black community is like to say Obama going to Wright's church makes him extreme. No one criticizes all those insane conservative preachers that the Republicans go to because they're not black.

 

Ms. Obama never felt pride for the country that brought her ancestors over as slaves and continued to abuse them for 100 years after they were "free". There were covertly racist practicing still going on up until recently like red flagging areas where a black family has moved. Yeah I don't blame them for not having pride in the US, but surprisingly she's having it now in seeing that a black candidate is actually capable of winning the White House and the black community would be forced to realize the same if he actually won. You'll get the opposite if he loses in a Bradley effect type surprise defeat.

 

Anyway I can't honestly see how anyone can support McCain. His economic policy is to add even more tax cuts for the rich on top of the Bush tax cuts that he wants to renew and pay for it all with endless war in Iraq and Afghanistan and a third war in Iran. Here's a newsflash; if McCain's current policies were put into place on top of all the debt Bush has packed on we might just go bankrupt and have the world foreclose on America by the end of his term. Playing the patriot and wearing your lapel pin everywhere you go may look nice, but if you're utterly screwing the country you're supposed to defend then you're not a real patriot. Obama may have problems with his own economic agenda, but it's leagues better than McCain's. There's not much worse you can get than McCain's economics. On social issues do you really want an ultra conservative super majority in the Supreme Court long after the next president leaves office doing whatever they want? You may not like Obama personally, but come on if you care anything about the country you live in would you really vote for McCain to turn us into a third world country? Think logically.

[darkhosis]

sorta off topic but not worthy of a new topic.

 

but i saw this:

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07092008/news/...bama_119161.htm

 

and the headline.. and just couldnt help but laugh my !@#$%^&* off

[AstroProdigy]

sorta off topic but not worthy of a new topic.

 

but i saw this:

 

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07092008/news/...bama_119161.htm

 

and the headline.. and just couldnt help but laugh my !@#$%^&* off

 

You think something like that would put to rest the idiotic notion that Obama is a liberal black supremacist similar to Jesse Jackson, but the people who believe it don't do it based on facts anyway.

[Dav]

looks like this is getting quite a lot of coverage

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7505953.stm

[Aileron]

Astro, back to the enlistment thing, (I know I should learn to drop this stuff) I never said the Army couldn't extend a tour. I said they couldn't fit 6 years worth of tours into a 4 year term of enlistment.

 

People do criticize the insane right winged preachers! I myself have done so! It just happens that no presidential candidate from the Republican side has gotten buddy-buddy with them because generally the Republicans like to filter themselves.

 

As for the cartoon....AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

. Poor Obama. Bush has only been putting up with crap like that from every cartoonist, late night comedy show, and internet jokester every day since January 1st, 2000.

[AstroProdigy]

And 4 years in a warzone is a short amount of time?

 

McCain has been trying to get buddy buddy with him all throughout the campaign.

 

I do agree about the cartoon, though. Obama's candidacy has turned into a disappointment since he's decided the center is anything, but bull!@#$%^&* and got rid of some of the promising aspects of his candidacy. Still, though, a centrist disappointment is leagues better than a right wing nut especially now that 20 years of on and off right wing economic policies have shredded our economy to bits and will continue to do so.

Edited July 15, 2008 by AstroProdigy

[darkhosis]

I do agree about the cartoon, though. Obama's candidacy has turned into a disappointment since he's decided the center is anything, but bull!@#$%^&* and got rid of some of the promising aspects of his candidacy. Still, though, a centrist disappointment is leagues better than a right wing nut especially now that 20 years of on and off right wing economic policies have shredded our economy to bits and will continue to do so.

2nd sentence appears to make no sense whatsoever.. ("decided the center is anything, but bull!@#$%^&* and ..." ??)

 

are you saying that obama has magically turned into a centrist, or that he used to be a centrist? either is a bit laughable

 

mccain isn't a right wing nut (try huckabee), he's just a nut. either way, mccain > obama because of supreme court and john paul stevens is almost 90 years old

[Bak]

we got 2 great candidates this time around... can't wait for January

[QUAX]

Obama is the man.

 

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[SeVeR]

A hot mic? Mistakenly switched on? Ya right. Fox strikes again.

[AstroProdigy]

I do agree about the cartoon, though. Obama's candidacy has turned into a disappointment since he's decided the center is anything, but bull!@#$%^&* and got rid of some of the promising aspects of his candidacy. Still, though, a centrist disappointment is leagues better than a right wing nut especially now that 20 years of on and off right wing economic policies have shredded our economy to bits and will continue to do so.

2nd sentence appears to make no sense whatsoever.. ("decided the center is anything, but bull!@#$%^&* and ..." ??)

 

are you saying that obama has magically turned into a centrist, or that he used to be a centrist? either is a bit laughable

 

mccain isn't a right wing nut (try huckabee), he's just a nut. either way, mccain > obama because of supreme court and john paul stevens is almost 90 years old

 

Sorry I meant decided the "centrist" view is mostly the way to try to set yourself up as the compromise candidate for everyone to vote for. Some side or another is usually right. Compromising by going to the middle of what people believe just means being half wrong (most of the time).

 

Obama's playing politics which is disappointing, but understandable for the candidate running against a still huge racist grain of people looking for every excuse they can get not to vote for the black guy.

 

Huckabee is actually further towards the center than McCain is on economic issues. See McCain is one of those supply side idiots who believes in a policy that never worked. McCain is better because of the supreme court? Sure if you want to have your rights stripped in the name of "fighting terrorism" for decades to come and want America to turn into Jesusland where the Bible is consulted before laws are made. I guess you're a Christian so you don't care, though.

[Aileron]

What? Coming up with excuses not to vote for the black guy? Your mind has been twisted. Over the course of this topic you've been the one generating excuses not to vote for the Republican.

 

Obama has two things on his resume: He's black and he's a Democrat. I'll admit he also did well in college. But that's it in its entirety.

[AstroProdigy]

I don't need to come up with excuses not to vote for the Republican. They are by their very philosophy opposed to my own. The only way I'd vote for Republican is if they were especially reasonable and the Democrat really sucked.

 

Obama being black actually hurts him more than it helps. Democrats have a 10 point advantage in the general election over Republicans yet Obama is more even with McCain. Does it have to do with McCain? Hardly since conservatives tend to not be excited about him. If Obama was white he'd ride the Democratic advantage to easy victory, but Obama is black so that keeps McCain compe!@#$%^&*ive. If a black candidate who does everything possible not to look threatening to white people that Obama does ran in an election where Republicans didn't have an overwhelming disadvantage he'd be way behind. The only reason he even has a chance despite being black is because he's a Democrat in an advantageous election year.

 

Heck even 22% of Americans admit they would never vote for an African American candidate and people believe 39% of their friends and family wouldn't vote for him because he's black. Even Hillary Clinton who unites people on the right in their hatred of her has a big advantage against McCain in polling because she's a Democrat in a very advantageous election year. African Americans vote overwhelmingly Democrat anyway so all Obama can do with the reverse racism vote is increase turnout. I agree that you can argue Obama beat Clinton because he's black, but in the general election it's the big disadvantage that no one in the mainstream media seems to want to admit. In short you are full of something because your entire notion isn't based on real proof, but instead on your own bias.

 

I do have hope, though, in the way younger people don't seem to have much of any problem voting for Obama because he's black. For the most part those people who won't vote for him and are young do it for other reasons. It's clear now that a post racial divide won't happen until most of the older generations brought up to be racist die off.

Edited July 22, 2008 by AstroProdigy

[Dadoc]

I read an article confirming that Picard is indeed of African American extraction and, therefore, I must believe it because that's what being that mentally challenged requires. Hey you know I heard Martin Luther King was Russian oh no! Picard you lend credence to the argument that some people just shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

Your first paragraph sounded ok, but then I read your second one...

 

Wow. maybe YOU shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

To keep it simple, if you are going to say someone is Arab, then that same person can't also be white and black too and since we know that Obama is half white and African...he can't be 46% Arab (46% African would be a more acceptable answer). An Arab and an African is not the same thing. Hint: Africans come from Africa, Arabs come from countries in and around Saudi Arabia.

 

Besides, to be Arab doesn't necessarily mean that you are a Muslim terrorist because, believe it or not, there are Arabs who are not Muslim. There are Arabs who are Buddhist, Christian, Hindu, you name it. !@#$%^&*uming all of the Arabs in the world are muslim is like !@#$%^&*uming all whites are christian or all chinese are buddhist. Its simply not true, but if rascists wanted to believe the truth, there wouldn't be any.

 

The difference between the cartoon and all these other jokes that have been going on is that the cartoon on Obama is based purely on out-right lies or what some may try to call speculation (either way thats what makes it tasteless). At least other jokes have some truth in them which actually makes them funny. Of course if you want to believe in an out-right lie, you might think it's funny, but how about adding a little evidence besides the fact that he's black. oh, i mean half African. But, oh no, there it is again. the "T" word... We can't be having any of that can we?

 

Next thing you know they will try to say that all Africans are Arabs and terrorists. Lol.

 

Finally, let's look at all the previous black candidates in previous election years. Yes, they were all black also and against much less popular candidates. Why did they not win? Whatever your reason may be, it trumps the whole "he won because he's black" card. He won because he was a good candidate, charisma, speaking ability, good planning, or whatever, but being black was not what did it and lets remember that he's half-black.

Edited July 22, 2008 by Kelaiah

[AstroProdigy]

Ok do you not understand sarcasm?

[Dadoc]

What are you saying? sarcasm in the cartoon? or sarcasm in your comment? I'm sorry, but I can't agree with sarcasm used as a racial attack. I attack you racially, but I meant it as being sarcastic so it's ok...err no... Edited July 22, 2008 by Kelaiah

[AstroProdigy]

I'm saying I was making the same points you did using sarcasm, but you didn't seem to figure out that I was using sarcasm. Maybe I need to practice it more. I used sarcasm to ridicule the notion that Obama can possibly be 46% Arabic. You don't have to tell me there are Arab Christians as I am fairly obsessed with ethnography. The point about the cartoon that it was trying to make was also sarcasm. Of course every part of it was based on lies. It was making fun of all the lies being made of Obama and his wife.

 

 

Obama knew it was sarcasm so I was surprised he didn't let it go. Usually when an African American leader makes something out of nothing it's someone like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton making a publicity stunt like with the black hole controversy in the other thread, but Obama is the type of guy who wants to avoid his race as an election issue because there is still a large percentage of Americans who would never vote for a black candidate combined with one that would if the alternative is an unpopular Republican Party, but is looking for excuses not to.

 

The sarcasm wasn't as a racial attack. It was used as an attack on those who use racial attacks.

 

Obama is half black in any other country, but in America he is black. If he was in Brazil he'd be described as mixed, but in the US having any black blood makes you "impure" so you automatically are black. It's part of why racism in America was never fully addressed, just largely swept under the rug.

[darkhosis]

Obama is half black in any other country, but in America he is black. If he was in Brazil he'd be described as mixed, but in the US having any black blood makes you "impure" so you automatically are black. It's part of why racism in America was never fully addressed, just largely swept under the rug.

i guess you might be shocked to find out that obama would be called "black" in just about any country in the world. if a random person that had a similar complexion as Obama went to oslo, london, warsaw, tokyo, seoul, or wherever else, do you really think the population there would not think of him as black?

 

btw , being called mixed (well i prefer to use the term Mestizo or Mulatto) in brazil makes them not racist?

 

i present to you, the gringo guide:

 

http://www.gringoguides.com/sambaracism.shtml

 

or some other info for you:

 

Brazilians are probably more color conscious than Americans because being black or white was not the question. One could be different shades; one could be a mixture of Black, White, and Indian. Indeed, the language of Brazil gives away their color consciousness. When looking at the definitions at the back of Freyre's book (1956), one sees many terms for color. These terms are arranged roughly from lighter skin to darker skin.

 

brancarao --a very light-skinned mulatto, so light as to appear almost white;

 

caboclo/a -- literally means copper-colored; applied to Indian or mestizo;

 

mameluco/a -- offspring of white and Indian, sometimes including black;

 

cabore -- offspring of black and Indian;

 

cafuso -- offspring of Indian and black parents;

 

cariboca -- a mestizo, part black and part Indian;

 

cabrocha -- a feminine dark-skinned mestizo type; and

 

cabra -- a brave mestizo of African, white and Indian ancestry.

 

Other terms indicated the prejudice against blacks, one of the most objectionable referring to bodily functions. Such is the case with budum and catinga (referring to the body odor reputed to characterize the African). Other terms indicating great social discrepancies are:

 

cria -- a young black, born and reared in the Big House;

 

ladino/a -- a slave who spoke Portuguese, had some Christian teaching, and worked around the house or field;

 

mae preta -- black mammy;

 

malungo --a young black playmate of the whites lads of the Big House;

 

mucama -- a favorite black maid employed as house servant and personal attendant;

 

muleca -- a young black maid in the Big House;

 

mulecote -- a sturdily built muleque, or black lad;

 

muleque -- a young black; now a wag or a blackguard; and

 

mulequinho -- pickaninny; small black lad.

 

The fact that things have not changed all that much in Brazil is seen in the Dictionary of Informal Brazilian Portuguese (Chamberlain and Harmon 1983:628). Here is listed under the heading "!@#$%^&*" terms such as monkey (o macaco) and rotting black flesh (urubu), along with others of a non-complimentary sort.

 

[AstroProdigy]

You cite Brazil of all countries? Why thank you. Brazil considers people of mixed ancestry to be mixed. In the US if you are at all black then you are black. In the US if you are at all black you are automatically impure and have the same label no matter how much mixture you have.

 

!@#$%^&* is the Latin word for literally "black". I know this is true for Portuguese, French, and Italian, but I'm not sure for Spanish.

 

You have racial terms descended from colonialism in Portuguese, but only in America is someone who's half white and half black considered just black. It's a label that was put on people if they were just a little black which shows how Americans still see any African blood as something impure that makes you black only. It's kind of how you can't be half diseased because once you have that disease (in this case African ancestry) you are just diseased. It's changing somewhat, but still is strongly in place. Notice that someone who is half asian and half white isn't generally referred to as asian (!@#$%^&*uming people know they're half asian and half white).

Edited July 23, 2008 by AstroProdigy

[darkhosis]

You cite Brazil of all countries? Why thank you.

No, you cited Brazil - I replied.

 

Rest of your message isn't worth responding to.

[spidernl]

I saw an article yesterday that says Barrack is 46% Arabic... I bet this makes Osama Bin Laden Laugh out Loud, just imagine the 'teamwork' if Barrack actually gets elected! We're screwed!

 

Actually, if you really think like that, you should get a brain transplant with a broccoli. That'll make you smarter, truly.

 

A sad thing is, though, that the only way you Americans can decide who to vote for, at the moment, is to check which of them is the greater evil.

Wtb proper candidates.

[AstroProdigy]

You cite Brazil of all countries? Why thank you.

No, you cited Brazil - I replied.

 

Rest of your message isn't worth responding to.

 

Thanks for conceding.

[Aileron]

spidernl, make up your own jokes. Don't rip off of the Dilbert calendar that's on your desk.

 

I'd still vote for Colin Powell if he ran. Kinda understand why he doesn't though. He makes enough money in pensions sitting on his !@#$%^&* that it just isn't worth the aggravation.