Samapico Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 What are you talking about parts of the biller being up? I don't see any part of the biller up at the moment
»Lynx Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Log into Trench Wars, some people still have their squads, their usage, their start dates... -Lynx
Samapico Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 That's cause these nerds stayed in there the whole time hmm, how would I see someone's usage anyway?
X`terrania Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) Yeah, if you were on when the biller went down then all your data is still there, strangely. But GS told me to post this, and he confirmed it. also sama, you need to be mod, or if you're in an ASSS zone then type /?usage Edited June 1, 2008 by X`terrania
»Lynx Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 Just asked a few people, they still have all of their main information (Usage/Banners/Start Dates) - However, their scores are not being saved, and their ?chats/?cheater/?help commands aren't working respectively. They can log in/log out as they like, and have no problems holding their information. Maybe there is a temp. database this stuff goes into? -Lynx
Hakaku Posted June 1, 2008 Report Posted June 1, 2008 As someone who used to play Trench Wars all the time, I can tell you that the only reason people aren't appended a ^ beside their name is because they haven't logged out of the zone since the biller went out, therefore all information prior to the outage will remain the same (usage will just be added unto previous figures, but it'll reset when the biller goes back online). Like Polix explained in the other thread, the zones aren't forced to endlessly recycle because of the SSC Biller Proxy, which acts like a safety net for when the biller goes out. People tend to underestimate Subgame though; the biller only handles and saves informations sent by the zone itself, but in order to do that, the zone has to record primary information first. Also, the only zones that have ^ appended to their usernames are Trench Wars and 17th Parallel, since both of these zones have been hosted on the same server (superb.net). DSB is not hosted on the same server, which is why it gives a popup.
MikeTheNose Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 The above post has the council's stamp of approval.
Aceflyer Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 As someone who used to play Trench Wars all the time, I can tell you that the only reason people aren't appended a ^ beside their name is because they haven't logged out of the zone since the biller went out I've logged out and back into Trench Wars numerous times since the biller has gone down and still no ^ in front of my name.
MikeTheNose Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 As someone who used to play Trench Wars all the time, I can tell you that the only reason people aren't appended a ^ beside their name is because they haven't logged out of the zone since the biller went out I've logged out and back into Trench Wars numerous times since the biller has gone down and still no ^ in front of my name. Server has your account verified due to multiple recent logins coming from the last time the billing server was disconnected.
Resol Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 As someone who used to play Trench Wars all the time, I can tell you that the only reason people aren't appended a ^ beside their name is because they haven't logged out of the zone since the biller went out, therefore all information prior to the outage will remain the same (usage will just be added unto previous figures, but it'll reset when the biller goes back online). Also, the only zones that have ^ appended to their usernames are Trench Wars and 17th Parallel, since both of these zones have been hosted on the same server (superb.net). DSB is not hosted on the same server, which is why it gives a popup. Odd, because I have been "Offline" for a few weeks, when I returned and logged in, I wasn't aware of the problem, (logging into TW). I saw a lot of ^ names, but mine was fine. And I have all my information. I have also logged in and out a few times as well.
Samapico Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 As Mike said... it appears the server itself stores some information and takes the responsibility to authentify some people Anyway... wake me up when SSC is back online... I did stuff but I can't test it sucks
»Lynx Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 SS sucks without the biller.. Just proves it, Continuum is just a chat client, with a small 2D space game built in. :/ -Lynx
candygirl Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 My AI's can't fly with out a biller...they just sit there looking silly lol
Dav Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 SS sucks without the biller.. Just proves it, Continuum is just a chat client, with a small 2D space game built in. :/ -Lynx doesnt really prove it as a lot of the chat features are lost with the biller
X`terrania Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 yeah, just seems pointless.. can't even ?chat with anyone
RiiStar Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 (edited) Just asked a few people, they still have all of their main information (Usage/Banners/Start Dates) - However, their scores are not being saved, and their ?chats/?cheater/?help commands aren't working respectively. They can log in/log out as they like, and have no problems holding their information. Maybe there is a temp. database this stuff goes into? -Lynx Subgame holds maybe 50+ (don't know exact figure) details for logins in its temp memory.So if ur on before the biller goes down and havnt been bumped out of the temp memory its holding for that data because of newer users details being recorded...U can login and out as per normal cos subgame still has your authentication details. Prolly not the most exact/detailed explanation of how it works, but thats basically why. Edited June 2, 2008 by RiiStar
jacob hunter! Posted June 2, 2008 Author Report Posted June 2, 2008 LOL i also noticed that if you changed your password to your name recently... (right before biller went down) then you will have to use the password of your name that you had before you changed it. Or that could just only happen to certain people.
Slipped Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 (edited) I was using Subchat at the time of the biller crash, then later on I disconnected once I realized the biller was down, hoping it'd be back up. However, at that time, Subchat wouldn't let me reconnect. I ended up just getting on Continuum and I've had a ^ next to my name since then. Strangely enough, this morning I was able to connect via Subchat and I don't have a ^ or anything else. When I had the ^ on Continuum, I kind of had half of my sysop powers. It was odd. I couldn't use any *commands, however I could enter locked arenas, read ?helps, and the lower staff (smods included) were still not able to *kill me (or use other commands on me). I found that fairly interesting. I seem to have all of my powers back at the time being since Subchat let me back on. Edited June 2, 2008 by Slipped
Dav Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 I also cannot get sunchat toi connect but with continuum loaded I dont have the ^ I guess SC2 needs biller functionailty to establish a connection.
Aceflyer Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 Temporary biller is up. Status of permanent biller yet to be decided, according to GS (see news in Chaos).
»doc flabby Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 Temporary biller is up. Status of permanent biller yet to be decided, according to GS (see news in Chaos).pls link, i cant find it.
Aceflyer Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 This is a backup of the billing server. Fileplanet still hasn't gotten their stuff together from the fire and explosion. Whether this is permanent or just until they are back online will be decided later.
X`terrania Posted June 2, 2008 Report Posted June 2, 2008 Anyways, like Ace said in the other topic, a backup SSC biller has been put up, whether it'll stay to replace the old one we don't know.
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