Exiili Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Why would you make lanc so ridicilously boring to play? It's the ship both freqs need in order to start a flagging game, which should be the main attraction and money maker of the zone. But instead of making the lancs anyhow FUN to play, you stubbornly kept your age-old idea of making the lancs big, fat, useless and most importantly absolutely boring to play. Their only use is to hide deep in the base to allow people to attach. Bull!@#$%^&*. Give the lancs something which make people want to play them. Make them able to kill something, please. NO ONE wants to play a ship that's only purpose is to hide to allow other people to play AND you don't even make money even if you do. I'm suprised that we still have a basing game or two in a day with these settings. That will last until the last people with lancs will just sell them in order to get to play. Quote
Gar Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Double the money lancs get from kills made by teammates. Tada, everyone wants to be lanc. Now nobody will play real ships! Quote
Suicide_Run Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 After being lanc for about 75% of A flag game....i decided to pretty much not lanc or try not to lanc in the future D= Since I was in base 1, % of the time someone gets kills when they bounty. I dont get any money from them because they are too far away (not on my screen). So gar seeing how you never lanced before or at least I never seen you. You would know that doubling the leech money barely gets you anywhere when most of the money doesnt even reach you. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 A team of superstar runningbacks is terrible without guys who want to play offensive line. You can't have 4 lead guitars. What I'm trying to get at is this is a naturally occurring phenomenon. You can have fun in a lanc by being a critical part of your team's effort to win games. The lanc is a different kind of ship, it's not going to be on the front lines busting heads. You might be fending off flankers, or being a field commander and coordinating your team's strategy. The lanc is not boring, you just have to see it for what is. PS. To me, sitting in a base and bountying is boring. Maybe we should stop forcing that misery on players? Quote
Aceflyer Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 PS. To me, sitting in a base and bountying is boring. Maybe we should stop forcing that misery on players? That'd be brilliant D1! Quote
Dr Brain Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 I usually enjoy being a lanc anchor more than repeatedly rushing and dying. Some people naturally like it. If you don't like it, please don't assume no one likes it. Quote
Unix Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Only reason why I lanc is because I don't have faith in anyone who is on my team to lanc for me. It is quite boring and what's worse the no afk spinning rule is still in effect for it, the lanc needs a reason to lanc, other than keeping basing alive. That only lasts for so long before they get sick of it, the biggest reason for teams dying is because there aren't enough good lancs. Dr brain, I don't mean to out you or anything, but just last night when you were lancing, didn't after a while you turned on your sysop leetness? And it was a decent basing game, you, like any other human got bored because you were being the back lanc. Give the lanc something to make ppl want to lanc more. Quote
Sharpflame Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Some people, all they can do is lanc and it is all they will do. Haku-Sama is a person who I have seen lanc since last reset. Never seen the person in a different ship. Then there's some people who don't like it. I couldn't stand my lanc so I sold it and got different ships. Just use what you like, and don't use what you don't like Quote
Dr Brain Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Dr brain, I don't mean to out you or anything, but just last night when you were lancing, didn't after a while you turned on your sysop leetness? And it was a decent basing game, you, like any other human got bored because you were being the back lanc. That was because my incompetent team didn't want to win the game. Lanc is fun when there's actually action going on. I can't be bothered to defend a base for an inferior team that will only lose all the flags we earned. Quote
vetta64 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Bring on the abuse, but I actually think it is fun being a lanc because you actually have to do something to support your team that is not solely interested in gaining money.Furthermore, I usually gain plenty of cash while lancing because it doesn't require a whole lot of money in ammo, and reps. That said it would be nice if we could get som nicer bursts, or a small cash incentive, something to make it a little more cost effective. Quote
Unix Posted May 12, 2008 Report Posted May 12, 2008 Some people, all they can do is lanc and it is all they will do. Haku-Sama is a person who I have seen lanc since last reset. Never seen the person in a different ship. Then there's some people who don't like it. I couldn't stand my lanc so I sold it and got different ships. Just use what you like, and don't use what you don't like The thing is, there arent enough of Haku-Sama around and too many who just do it because they have no choice. Dr Brain, dont you think all lanc's have to go through that? It's not just you or that one time you had an incompetent team. It's a very common occurrence when you have a stupid team. The biggest thing about lanc is that... Everyone else is making "MORE" money than you. Other than probably a maybe a few rushers in the entire game, the lanc makes the least amount. A kill > prox money, even if you have to shoot. Perfect example of this was a few days ago, I was the lanc and a few people were bntying, the bntyers made close to twice as much as I did and the people around me who were killing made more than me as well. It's not a matter of making some money, it's just that you lose the opportunity to make more money and it's boring. Quote
vetta64 Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 not too mention that with summon, and ad, lanc is the most expensive ship to build. Quote
linger Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 i gave up lancing this reset when i saw you no longer had a good gun that goes twice as far as what they do now i decided not to make one maby i will but prolly not not enough cash flow and it costs upwards of 300k i dont make that much i have a life Quote
oid Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Just make it so you gotta pay like 25$ to summon/attach to a lanc. $$$ Quote
QUAX Posted May 13, 2008 Report Posted May 13, 2008 Just make it so you gotta pay like 25$ to summon/attach to a lanc. $$$ ew, please don't. Quote
Matrim Cauthon Posted May 14, 2008 Report Posted May 14, 2008 Problem with lanc is that they're rly expensive to make and u dont get much kills from it since the bomb speed is so low ur bombs dont even reach the end of the screen most of the time(increase it?)(or maybe the lancs should buy tacnukes to bty in?) Quote
Exiili Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Posted May 14, 2008 After being lanc for about 75% of A flag game....i decided to pretty much not lanc or try not to lanc in the future D=This is the same for disturblingly high percentage of the players. I haven't seen aceflier or distort playing in a lanc. Maybe if they would' date=' then we'd have more flaggames than the current one-a-day if someone is drunk enough to lanc. It is quite boring and what's worse the no afk spinning rule is still in effect for it' date=' the lanc needs a reason to lanc, other than keeping basing alive. That only lasts for so long before they get sick of it, the biggest reason for teams dying is because there aren't enough good lancs.[/quote']Which is the main reason for this post. That was because my incompetent team didn't want to win the game. Lanc is fun when there's actually action going on.No one wants to win a flag game until the enemy team only has 2 newbs playing. Lancing is something you'll be expected to do for the nest 2-4 hours the milkfest is going on and if you don't you have !@#$%^&*load of people whining at you for "killing the game" Bty in lanc. kthx.yes' date=' it's possible against a totally inferior team. otherwise the slow bullet speed/slow bomb speed/no bouncy bombs combo will make you an easy prey against any noob shark. not too mention that with summon' date=' and ad, lanc is the most expensive ship to build.[/quote']And you won't be making the money to build the ship by playing the ship. Conclusion.Think about giving the lanc bouncy bombs and some bomb speed to make them actually be able to do something. Quote
RoN Posted May 15, 2008 Report Posted May 15, 2008 I think i am the only one in HS that loves lancing, Astyanax was the one that helped me with it but he left now. It should be nice if there are more lancasters in HS so we can base easy and fast. I run win much cause nobody is starting a base game. I want too use my lanc more. 1 special item should be fine. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 Lanc was fun defending minibase, and would have been even better if I had enough exp for summoner Quote
Unix Posted May 19, 2008 Report Posted May 19, 2008 Cough says the one who used sysop leetness and autoturrets then a few other kinds of turrets cough Quote
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