Signature Items to Normal Items

[Unix]

What sig items would be good normal items and at what price?

[Dr Brain]

The sigs are supposed to be above and beyond normal items. The fact that you even want any of them to be normal means they shouldn't be.

[f3ar-evil]

Nerf radiating coils, add it to non-sig.

make it like... 50k.

That's one way to nerf bursts without actually...nerfing bursts.

[Syrith]

Making radiating coils a non-sig item would nerf coffin maker too, which is a bad idea.

[Unix]

Well there are some items that shouldnt be a signature item.

 

Point defense is probably the best example of this. Let's face it, PD just sucks if it's a signature item, even if it's normal it might not even be worth it.

[Kilo]

Nope, try again.

[linger]

the 2mill items shouldnt be sigs

oracle keep the same price but make it non sig

make cloak sig

sysetem optimizer

[Unix]

Arnk, I'm not saying that they should go, this is more like a "what would you like to do" kind of post.

[Suicide_Run]

Pd shouldnt be a non sig thou the current pd seems abit too slow in targeting an enemy.

[Unix]

Yeah, if it's a nonsig then too many people would probably get it.

 

You'd probably have to weaken it to make it a non-sig.

 

How about.... AM Mines, they're vicious, but so TK prone that it's not even worth it

Edited May 5, 2008 by Unix

[Suicide_Run]

If AM Mines were to become non sig, it will probably end up something like only be able to lay 3-5 of them lol

[Unix]

AM Mines take a lot out of you, that's the biggest drawback for them, and since repping is a lot more common now they're almost meaningless.

[Matrim Cauthon]

ams for turrets

[f3ar-evil]

If 2M items weren't sig... that would absolutely suck.

You would have Unix's running around with Omega AND temporal core..

Believe me, not a good idea.

[rootbear75]

Arnk, I'm not saying that they should go, this is more like a "what would you like to do" kind of post.

i do hop you know that was Brain, not Arnk

[Unix]

If 2M items weren't sig... that would absolutely suck.

You would have Unix's running around with Omega AND temporal core..

Believe me, not a good idea.

Dont need Omega, I'd personally rather have Flash Drive, Flash is just an upgraded version of Retro, which is the sublight I have now.

 

But yes, let's make 2M items non-sig

[Suicide_Run]

If it becomes non-sig. It will just be a 10M item like before =/

[Unix]

Ok, make it 10M now

 

And make it non sig

[Kilo]

Sure, make it non-sig. Then it would only require 99999 exp and cost 20M.

[Dadoc]

I agree with Kilo. If it's non sig, the xp should go up.

 

Same with radiating, higher xp.

 

I think AM should be a sig, its pretty powerful <=== Spoken like someone who doesn't use a lot of reps.

 

 

Fear,

Actually, i think that some would still use icefire instead of omega since it has higher speed and can run better. Or actually they might just use baryon and ampere instead.

 

Speaking of which, here's an idea...

 

What about a 2 sig limit but with 1 sig of a reactor/sublight or maybe gun/bomb type then 1 of an emitter/addon/etc? Or some other combination, but defintely not a reactor and sub sig together. Just a thought...

[Aishi]

1.Point-defense

2.Radiating coils

3.2m items

4.Flash Drive

 

Look, lets face it. These items arent worth the sig spot, nor are they worth the price.

 

1. I think i only know 1 person in hs who actually uses Pointdefense, and thats Relos.

His lanc is gud though =D, although id rather have omega or another sig.

 

2. How many people do you know that have radiating coils? A lanc maybe, or a rusher?

Radiating coils used to be used in center, for shrap damage, but now, its not used at all because its a sig, and everybody would rather get ampere or omega.

 

3. 2m items are dumb right now. And anybody that can read will agree with me. Lets take Temporal core as an example. 1 recharge and 1 energy higher than ampere, for 20 times the price. Literally. AND its a sig. Who the heck would actually buy that? Ok. Il explain that to you smart-buttocks that will say yes just to contradict me. It is a rhetorical question. And if you don't know what that means, it means IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANSWERED. Ok.

 

Anyway, back on topic. If I'm going to pay 20 times or 40 times the price of a normal sig, it better be worth it. And so far, +1 in recharge and energy (im still using temporal core as an example) is not going to help a whole lot. If you didnt make the 2mil items sigs, people might actually BUY THEM Think of the possibilities! An item ACTUALLY worth spending 2mil on!

 

4.I think i know 1 person out of everybody that plays hs, who even considered using flash drive. It is basically the old retro rockets, and i can !@#$%^&*ure you, Flash drive is NOT worth 100k, nor is it worth the sig spot.

 

Conclusion: These Items are not worth spending 100k, 75k, 2mil, and 100k on(respectively), and very few people use them because they are not worth the sig spots nor the money.

Edited May 8, 2008 by Aishi

[Matrim Cauthon]

3. 2m items are dumb right now. And anybody that can read will agree with me. Lets take Temporal core as an example. 1 recharge and 1 energy higher than ampere, for 20 times the price. Literally. AND its a sig. Who the heck would actually buy that? Ok. Il explain that to you smart-buttocks that will say yes just to contradict me. It is a rhetorical question. And if you don't know what that means, it means IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANSWERED. Ok.

 

actually 2 mil items are actually quite worth it to upgrade to. The point of temporal isnt just the +1 recharge and nrg, did u also look at the other bonuses?-8 afterburners really help, that and the +8 recharge can make u gain nrg while afterburning with ur sublight and maxwell. And also the decreased bullet and bomb nrg costs, all those make the ship super powerful.

[Kilo]

Even if Temporal Core only had the +1 energy and +1 recharge, it'd still be worth it since that's more energy and recharge you could usually get with a sig

not a hard concept

 

don't buy 2M items until you've bought everything else you want?

 

P.S. it's not a bad thing if a very good item is sig, like radiating coils. don't need everyone using the same item

[Unix]

Even if Temporal Core only had the +1 energy and +1 recharge, it'd still be worth it since that's more energy and recharge you could usually get with a sig

not a hard concept

 

don't buy 2M items until you've bought everything else you want?

 

P.S. it's not a bad thing if a very good item is sig, like radiating coils. don't need everyone using the same item

Yeah, I have to admit, that +1 recharge/energy does make a nice difference, but at the same time for me personally it went up +2 because I then added a Power Strip, before that I was just using Ampere Imploder with nothing else to enhance it. That -8 Afterburner is huge though, now I just gotta wait for more new items to see what I can do.

 

I felt buyer's remorse when I did intially buy it <_< - It's going away slowly though.

 

It's not a bad thing that everyone is using radiating, definitely not. One of the great things about sig is, not only did it allow more ships to get things it normally couldnt get before the reset, but it also made people think more about setups. Perfect example of this was TacNuke before and after reset. Before only the levi could get it, but now most of the ships can get it, tacnuke is obviously better on levi though simply because of the speed of the bomb it has. ZPM and Mezon are the two biggest sigs that opened doors for a lot of ships, before it was only like two ships that could get those two items, but now most of the ships can get those two items.

[Suicide_Run]

I like the sig items as they are but the ones that get used very little or not used at all like pd should get a slight power boost.