Gas prices are so high

[Aceflyer]

lol... the NYC subway system is no where near nice. it's dirty, smells like !@#$%^&*, hot as !@#$%^&* during the summer, and is really in bad shape.

this is why i always take the car over the subway.

 

See my post above. I clarified that it was "nice" in terms of convenience (at least relative to Boston's system), not in terms of comfort. As far as taking the car: see the section quoted from your own post below.

 

that's probably one of the dumbest things ever.

 

have you even been out of your house to know what NYC is like?

taking the taxi is pretty stupid.

it's chaos on the streets every minute of every day, and you end up paying for a !@#$%^&* load from your taxi sitting in traffic.

 

This is why I've always preferred taking the subway when I've been in NYC.

[darkhosis]

public transit, what's this? i think tyler, tx might have some busses? *boggle*

 

haha

[Hoch]

Public transport isn't too great in London, it isn't too bad either. I can normally get a train within 5 minutes. Unless there are delays.

Which form of public transportation are you talking

about? The Underground? Overground? Main line

trains? DLR? Buses?

 

I only ask because even though London does not

have the most timely public transportation system

(the Germans and Swiss would get that award) it

is certainly the best one as far as connections and

ease of getting around. At least I think so

 

Just curious

 

-Hoch

[Incomplete]

London Underground.

 

It's all good when there aren't delays. But when there are delays (which is often) it is !@#$%^&*.

 

Then there are the talks of the strikes, which are just even more annoying. Also whenever we have a little bit of bad weather, if its a load of rain, snow, wind then delays are inevitable.

Edited April 28, 2008 by Incomplete

[ESCANDAL0SA]

[This is why I've always preferred taking the subway when I've been in NYC.

 

taxi drivers don't give a !@#$%^&* if they sit in traffic, it's more money for them.

 

but when i drive, it's easy to find shortcuts, cut people off, to get there faster. i rather take the car.

[Aceflyer]

[This is why I've always preferred taking the subway when I've been in NYC.

 

taxi drivers don't give a !@#$%^&* if they sit in traffic, it's more money for them.

 

but when i drive, it's easy to find shortcuts, cut people off, to get there faster. i rather take the car.

 

To each their own.

[»Lynx]

[Hoch]

*I cannot believe I am about to write this*

 

Now hold on now. The Tube isn't all that bloody

bad. I will give you the extorted fees. But the

Oyster card has gone a long way to speeding up

the time you spend at the ticket gate to the plat-

form. I remember the pre-Oyster days, and it

wasn't nice. Now that's the only !@#$%^&* thing I'll

give Red Ken credit for! I just feel sorry for the

poor (sucker) tourists that visit the city and end

up having to pay full fare.

 

Service wise I cannot really disagree. I take the

Central Line in every day, and anyone who knows

anything about London knows that it is the Central

Line that gets delayed the most (it's the red one

for all you foreigners ). Barring a signal failure,

which to this day I still cannot quite figure out how

in the !@#$%^&* that happens, the service is quite good.

Though I do remember going up to Harrow Crown

Court back in February and someone fell on the

line. Yikes!

 

Climate control is an issue. Fortunately the past

two summers have been relatively mild. But any

time it gets above 20 degress, and when you are

packed in tighter than a Las Vegas !@#$%^&* during

an all male porn convention, it is down right mis-

erable. That said, I have yet to come across a

European underground system that has air-condi-

tioning. Most main line trains do, e.g. the German

ICE or the Swedish X2000, but not an underground

train.

 

-Hoch

[Aceflyer]

Does the London subway ever come above ground? Both the Boston and the NYC subways have significant portions that run above ground, with above ground stations (especially the Boston subway), which is probably why all subway trains have climate control.

[Sass]

Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I gotta tell ya, my gas output has been higher than normal lately! Must be those late night drinking sprees!

[Suicide_Run]

Maybe its about time you switch to hybrid? But those things are god dam expensive.

[»doc flabby]

Does the London subway ever come above ground? Both the Boston and the NYC subways have significant portions that run above ground, with above ground stations (especially the Boston subway), which is probably why all subway trains have climate control.

Most of the london subway is overground.

 

What you may not realise is that the Uk is as normal using majority outdated tech. The is no air conditioning on the tube at the moment. They are considering installing it. In a hot summer temperatures can hit 37-38 degrees celieus underground

 

Still the people who live in London are lucky, they have a public transport system that works.

 

For anyone not living in a major city (aka pop less than 100k) the public transport system is pretty much useless. Trains and bus time tables dont tie up.

I live in one of these more "rural" areas (only 30mins train ride from london)

Buses run every 30 mins here. Except they stop at 5.30pm. Cost more than driving, even at the current prices.

They frequently turn up late, or not at all.

Trains come on time (generally) every 30 mins. Except they cost significantly more than driving.

 

The Oyster is great except your details and all your trips are pretty much open season to the security services

Edited April 28, 2008 by doc flabby

[CRe]

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/

 

Netherlands is pretty expensive. I've heard that Jamaica is like 60$ per gallon of gas so..

[Hoch]

I wouldn't say most of the London Underground is

outside. If I recall correctly, nearly 65 or 70% is

subterranean. Only a handful of lines are more

outside than in, e.g. the Bakerloo, Metropolitan and

Hammersmith lines. But certainly rural or outlining

areas get the short end of the stick. In general, pub-

lic transportation is appalling compared to our Euro-

pean neighbours.

 

I have found that there is marked difference in temp-

erature depending on the line that you use. For ex-

ample, the District line tends to be cooler than the

Northern line. I suspect that is the result of the former

operating on a wider line. This allows for greater air

flow. Nonetheless, it can get pretty miserable as I

wrote earlier :/

 

-Hoch

 

PS, your article is way out of date cReEmy

[Samapico]

Why would they call it a subway if it wasn't underground?

[Aceflyer]

Why would they call it a subway if it wasn't underground?

 

It's called a subway if there's at least a significant portion that is underground. Most of the Boston system in terms of stations and all is probably overground, but there are quite a few underground stations downtown, so I suppose that's why it's called a subway. The Dallas system, on the other hand, has exactly one underground station, so it generally isn't considered a subway.

[rootbear75]

most people call it the "metro"

[Aceflyer]

most people call it the "metro"

 

No, the Boston system is called the "T" last time I checked.

[»Lynx]

[rootbear75]

most people call it the "metro"

 

No, the Boston system is called the "T" last time I checked.

i wasnt talking specifically about boston.

 

in most places in the US, it is a "metro" system.

[Samapico]

[ESCANDAL0SA]

i wasnt talking specifically about boston.

 

in most places in the US, it is a "metro" system.

 

 

most people in new york just refer to it as the train.

[Incomplete]

Also, I was surprised at the amount of people who throw themselves in front of trains. I've witnessed it twice, one time in Twickenham, another in Isleworth, and my trains been delayed due to it more times than I can remember during the time I've been going to college. Pretty depressing, but I think that Richmond are installing gl!@#$%^&* barriers on all of their platforms to prevent it occurring as often.

 

PS: I hate ticket inspectors.

 

Yeah they do this already to stop people jumping infront of trains. It's a pain in the arse because all it does is create delays for everyone. If they want to die then do it peacefully to cause minimum disruption. I suppose they're just drama queens and want the world to stop because they have died.

[Dav]

simple solution is buy a bike. In many cities it is actually a quicker way around.

 

Bike beat car, boat and public transport when they tested it on top gear in london

[Incomplete]

I saw that.

 

Bike

Boat

Public Transport

Car

 

were orders they came in. I would buy a bike but I don't fancy cycling 15 miles to get into work have a hard day moving / lifting heavy equiptment and then having to cycle 15 back.