Stylez Posted November 24, 2003 Report Posted November 24, 2003 I find it funny that the only veterans that still play 17th are the ones who figured out how to cheat. Other then that, everyone else has quit. 17th gets rid of more people for the dumbest things then they do for people who actually confess to cheating. Which in reality, if they'd just ban someone for cheating and made it known that their on to those people, people would stop cheating. But no, there doing nothing at all, blah blah saying there "investagating", blah you staffers say that about my ban, but I bet you just love that I'm gone. Anyways, I feel that 17th has some of the best staffers yet has some of the dumbest staffers. I'll list by each person I can think of in staff that I can and tell you all what I think of them. MikeTheNose - Stuck up, plain and simple, if you PM him, dont expect a reply. Lazy and has to much power for a fat stuck up prick. Doesn't do anything for the zone but ban people. Basically really worthless IMHO. I wished he'd just quit and give the zone to someone like Telson or NBVegita. Nurples - Where? You've actually seen this guy? I sure haven't in a long time. Yes he's done a lot of work for the place, but is no where to be found. Just like a real job, if you don't have time for it, let someone else take their place, someone with maturity and the time. Plus his a backstabber, I helped this cat out so many times when he first started playing. Took hours to train him in duels and showed him the ropes, yet he says he's tired of me always getting into trouble, but doesn't ever find the time to talk to me about it. Thanks nurps Pernille - Weird but active. I do think she's a good upper staffer, but not sysop material. She favors people to much, people who treat her nice will get extra privalegdes from her. Plus she's a Epion fan all the way. She's so stuck on epion, she'll fist fight you if you talk bad about them. I adore perny and will always, but god does she get under my skin about the simpliest -*BAD WORD*-. She never will agree with you on anything, she's always.... right. Yet she does her job and is always there for you, which makes her a good staffer, just not perfect. Kudos Telson - Probably one of my favorite staffers, doesn't say much, but will help you out when ever you need it. Him and jim work their !@#$%^&*es off making graphics and maps and never get thanked for it (and i know how it feels). But thanks guys, kudos. He isn't as looked up to as the last three, but he still holds high respects from all the players. Silly but yet formal, not like Dire, he knows when to stop acting like a child and get to work. Kudos Telson. Dire Wolf - What can I say, he's just wierd.... Always says the dumbest things trying to be funny and I don't think I've seen him do a -*BAD WORD*- thing since I've been in 17th for the zone. Whys he on staff again? NBVegita - Probably the wisest of staff. His eyes are actually opened. Amazing how much this guy pays attention to details. If you get in trouble, email him and he'll see about the situation at hand. His very good at seeing your side of the story and not just the other staffers. He also does a great job with maps and such. I think him and Telson should be the owners of 17th, IMHO.... ntfx (NetBios) - hmm, can anyone say weasel? And no not SS weasel, but weasel like snitch, -*BAD WORD*-, will do anything to get to the top. This guy has lied so much about me and why I got banned it hurts. And you people suck it all up becuase his a staffer. Either way, his smart and knows his stuff. But doesn't have the majority to be in such a high position. He lacks morals and respect for other players. If you cross his bad side, he'll do what it takes to make you dissappear. I've never liked him from day one, always talks about hacking and sending viruses. Why would someone so noturious like this be on staff? No clue... Blue Silver (tablet) - freind of NBVegitas in real life, I dont see how, his a prick. He trys so hard to impress other staffers. It's sad at times. He host probably more then anyone else, which makes him a good ER, but I wouldn't ever make him anything more then that. He's always in the middle of fights with people, never can seem to keep his mouth shut. I like that his on staff, just not that his so high up there... Foof - ok tell me why his a staffer again? And you staff members say you try to hire mature people, pfft... Makaveli (Zioneer) - Same as Foof, always causes trouble, why cant you staffers think before you hire people. Thats like hiring me when you put him on staff, geez, dumb!@#$%^&*es. Rishadan - My boy, but does cuase trouble at times. I think he'd make a good mod. He's well known for leagues and such (like enterprise 25) Which makes him a great staffer for leagues, just not for making ban decisions. Enterprise 25 - what can I say about this guy? Does his job, keeps up leagues, wow nice man. Doesn't cuase trouble either. Kudos enterprise... ahh my minds gone balnk now, cant remember the rest.... Oh well, you guys get my drift... Well I'm spent,Peace,Stylez Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 24, 2003 Report Posted November 24, 2003 I must be doing a good job if you forgot all about little ol me ^_^ Oh, and Pern is now HSysop in case you were wondering Joker. Squad pride has nothing to do with what she does as staff, we're all unbiased about that stuff. Not only that, but in the latest league it's impossible for bias to enter into the gameplay at all Quote
Stylez Posted November 24, 2003 Author Report Posted November 24, 2003 oh yea... Vile Requiem - Sorry man , I think Viles a great staffer, I've never really seen eye to eye with him, but he's always opened minded about things, which makes him a good staffer to me. He works his bum off just like nbv, jim, and telson, but never gets thanks for it. Thank you Vile ... Kudos Man SeVeR (JimTheChin) - I dont know if he's a staffer but oh well Jim The Chin, probably one of the most well known people in 17th ever. Doesn't cuase much trouble, works his -*BAD WORD*- off on maps, and is a veteran javer. Kudos Jim, they should make a holiday in 17th for you Explody Thing - Staffer right? for 17th? ah well, he warned me before so I take his a staffer. Umm dont really know him or actually i've never really seen him much, he's like a sighting of big foot Hmm, I guess his a good staffer, whos to say... not me for sure ..... Thats all for now Peace,Stylez Quote
Stylez Posted November 24, 2003 Author Report Posted November 24, 2003 I must be doing a good job if you forgot all about little ol me ^_^ Oh, and Pern is now HSysop in case you were wondering Joker. Squad pride has nothing to do with what she does as staff, we're all unbiased about that stuff. Not only that, but in the latest league it's impossible for bias to enter into the gameplay at all lol I know man, just my opinion on this stuff, doesn't mean its abolutly true, just what I see after all the time i've played with you guys Peace Quote
Telson Posted November 24, 2003 Report Posted November 24, 2003 I agree, Telson is a great guy. Not sure about him owning the zone.. but anyways thanks P.s. VOTE TELSON! Canidate for President for EARTH! Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 24, 2003 Report Posted November 24, 2003 What about the Mods? And ERs?! lol Maverick? Cokey? Me? lol Quote
talion Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 Makaveli (Zioneer) - Same as Foof, always causes trouble, why cant you staffers think before you hire people. Thats like hiring me when you put him on staff, geez, dumb!@#$%^&*es. i changed my mind.i Quote
MikeTheNose Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 I agree, Telson is a great guy. Not sure about him owning the zone.. but anyways thanks P.s. VOTE TELSON! Canidate for President for EARTH!Telson would not want to be the top guy, who gets accused of "banning everybody" when he hasn't banned a single person in months and does exactly nothing because the players don't even see what he does. Or have people complain about him because he ignores people who always come to him for troubles when he is bothered whenever he is online by players. Or even so stuck up that apparently only the players dislike him. Even gets -*BAD WORD*-ed at that the staff are abusing or har!@#$%^&*ing players but doesn't recieve any such emails to modabuse@17thparallel.com. Not to mention that the worst of players who have nothing better to say about people or the zone come to him and -*BAD WORD*- at him. Oh, and don't let me forget about the fact that he gets blamed for everything no matter whether he did it or not, and even that, people still say he does nothing but had to have now right? Quote
Guest Crowley Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 ok so i lied, I checked the forum since Thrawn said he was posting. I've never had a problem with whether sysops are doing anything they do their thing and I don't necessarily need to know what they are doing for them to be doing it. my problem is and always has been with lower staff. Mike I and many others have brought our complaints about foof and epion straight to pern, a sysop, and the only sysop on enough and with enough free time to check into either. I don't see much point in emailing you about either thing when your not on enough nor have the time to sit there and see if what I say is happening is happening. Pernille knows about the things epion does, refuses to do anything, she also refuses to do anything about foof. if a sysop isn't going to do anything, nobody is. as for telson... doesn't everybody want to rub telie tubbies little belly? got a buddha belly going on baby. Quote
MikeTheNose Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 I usually oversee problems with staff members. Also note that emailing modabuse@17thparallel.com doesn't only go to me, it goes to several upper staff. If pernille isn't doing anything for you then you could talk to another. The problem with talking to another is you don't know who to talk to and I haven't seen many "?help I need to talk to an smod+" messages If you need some help, you are free to use that service. There is at all times at least 2 smod+ online. Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 The problem with talking to another is you don't know who to talk to and I haven't seen many "?help I need to talk to an smod+" messages If you need some help, you are free to use that service. There is at all times at least 2 smod+ online.Funny that sounds to familiar to me... Make sure to tell people to only use it for up to 3 times or you'll get a ban for it. And don't joke in 17th to a staff member either, they take everything you say seriously.... Quote
MikeTheNose Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 *Shakes his head at Stylez' stupidity* Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 *Shakes his head at Stylez' stupidity* *Shakes his head at MikeTheNose' and I still can't see around your fat -*BAD WORD*- when I do this* Quote
reload Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 MikeTheNose - Stuck up, plain and simple, if you PM him, dont expect a reply. Lazy and has to much power for a fat stuck up prick. Doesn't do anything for the zone but ban people. Basically really worthless IMHO. I wished he'd just quit and give the zone to someone like Telson or NBVegita. Joker, Mike has done a lot for 17th. More than you realise. Quote
Nurples Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 Nurples - Where? You've actually seen this guy? I sure haven't in a long time. Yes he's done a lot of work for the place, but is no where to be found. Just like a real job, if you don't have time for it, let someone else take their place, someone with maturity and the time. Plus his a backstabber, I helped this cat out so many times when he first started playing. Took hours to train him in duels and showed him the ropes, yet he says he's tired of me always getting into trouble, but doesn't ever find the time to talk to me about it. Thanks nurps Wow..... ...... Pause..... ...... Where have I been? IN THE ZONE! If I am not in the zone, it's because I am off doing military stuff... I have steped down due to the military and myself going to Iraq. I will be gone for a year... I can do nothing for the zone while deployed since I cannot enter the zone. I'm a backstabber? How? Yes, you were one of the first friends I made in SS. I advanced and became Head Sysop of the zone. You were and still are my frend. You broke the rules... You got many warnings and I over looked most of the things you did. Then I finally said enough. Just because you are my friend doesn't mean that you can break the rules. I should not be expected to ignore the rules just for you. The rules are there for EVERYONE. Quote
Cencil Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 And no one cares about lil ol me? I do not cheat and I have been playing the zone longer then most people I think.4 or so years, I don't know about the rest of the staff. -*BAD WORD*- you Joker. Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 What about the Mods? And ERs?! lol Maverick? Cokey? Me? lolOh yea, you three guys are great, well what I've seen of you all... Most ER's and Mods now, excpetion of a few are pretty decent. Don't cause trouble and actually try and go beyond their call of duty. Kudos Guys... Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 phew.. Your staff? oh heh, never knew... Well all I know really about you is your one -*BAD WORD*- of a 3D Graphics artist and your great in a Warbird.... umm other then that, have fun Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 Telson would not want to be the top guy, who gets accused of "banning everybody" when he hasn't banned a single person in months and does exactly nothing because the players don't even see what he does. Or have people complain about him because he ignores people who always come to him for troubles when he is bothered whenever he is online by players. Or even so stuck up that apparently only the players dislike him. Even gets -*BAD WORD*-ed at that the staff are abusing or har!@#$%^&*ing players but doesn't recieve any such emails to modabuse@17thparallel.com. Not to mention that the worst of players who have nothing better to say about people or the zone come to him and -*BAD WORD*- at him. Oh, and don't let me forget about the fact that he gets blamed for everything no matter whether he did it or not, and even that, people still say he does nothing but had to have now right?Funny thing about all that stuff Mike, that I said about you, didn't just come from me, but from tons of other people, who dont suck up to you just becuase your head sysop. Give someone else the zone and you'll see how much respect you'll get in 17th from then on. A lot of people dislike you man, it's not just me who think you are stuck up. You never reply to anyone, ever.... Dude, your head sysop of a zone, stop -*BAD WORD*-ing. When you have such a important job, you most understand you have to put up with all the BS, but you do it by ignoring everyone and thats just stoopid of you. If you have to reply to 5000000 people, then you have to reply to 5000000 people and there complaints.... If you can't handle that, then you shouldn't be where your at... You say you've done so much for this zone? I'm sure back in the days you did and I'm sure you still do. But how do we give recognition to someone for something we've never seen or even knew he/she did.... I tried hard to get along with you man, I had times where I'd PM and say hi, but you'd just ignore me and start talking to pernille or something. Your an -*BAD WORD*-, plain and simple, I can't help I cant see you as anything else.... Also, I'm sure the only reason your head sysop of 17th is becuase you were the only staffer from back in the day to stick around long enough for the original owners to hand it over to you... Don't you think it's about time for you to p!@#$%^&* the torch on? I mean your never here anyways, let someone else take that responsibilaty bro.... Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 Wow..... ...... Pause..... ...... Where have I been? IN THE ZONE! If I am not in the zone, it's because I am off doing military stuff... I have steped down due to the military and myself going to Iraq. I will be gone for a year... I can do nothing for the zone while deployed since I cannot enter the zone. I'm a backstabber? How? Yes, you were one of the first friends I made in SS. I advanced and became Head Sysop of the zone. You were and still are my frend. You broke the rules... You got many warnings and I over looked most of the things you did. Then I finally said enough. Just because you are my friend doesn't mean that you can break the rules. I should not be expected to ignore the rules just for you. The rules are there for EVERYONE.I know your in the zone nurps, but 9 out of 10 times it's early in the morning when hardly no ones on. Well maybe not backstabber, but not a very loyal commrade. I mean man, I stuck up for you all the time when people made fun of your skills and -*BAD WORD*-, I trained you day after day without any complaints. I even let you on my squads back then, even when you first started playing. But then that oneday you became a staff member, oh lordy... you changed. You basically became another mike... You banned me for 5000 days man without any questions asked, you didn't have much of a clue of what I did, you just said to me, you was tired of me always getting into trouble. But is that call for you to not listen to my complaints and just simply get rid of me? I've messaged you lots of times for atleast a reply, but nothing... You banned me and you wasn't even here for not even a quarter of the crap that happened that day. Of course I was harr!@#$%^&*ing staff, becuase staff took my powers without a just cuase, they just didnt like that I specced Tapzu during a league game. But I "still to this day" say I did the right thing, me and about 15 other people that day saw Tapzu lagging and still owning, yet his ?lag was perfectly fine... Which can only mean so many things, so I took him out the game due to unfair lag. I mean thats how most other games I've played do it, they dont just let the laggiest mother -*BAD WORD*-ers play in league games, wouldn't be fair. Either way, I tried to talk to you about it and tell you why I was mad, but you just said screw it and banned me for 5000 days , saying you was tired of all the -*BAD WORD*- you had to put up with me.... sound like a loyal freind to you? doesn't to me... I might have deserved a ban that day, but not -*BAD WORD*-ing 5000 days. People get 5000 day bans for hacking the server or something, not ranting on the forums and speccing a supposed cheater..... And I know the rules, but its a -*BAD WORD*-ing game man, people are going to break them, becuase you know why? Becuase they can, and they will... If you want a perfect lil world where no one breaks rules, well read the bible and die, then you will Well I'm done, peace Quote
Stylez Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Posted November 25, 2003 And no one cares about lil ol me? I do not cheat and I have been playing the zone longer then most people I think.4 or so years, I don't know about the rest of the staff. -*BAD WORD*- you Joker.Is Cencil a staff member? Please dont answer that.... becuase if he is... *just shacks his head in pity* Quote
kentbrockman Posted November 25, 2003 Report Posted November 25, 2003 i do find many of the staff choices are poor. it annoys me that nurples/pernille are so high up, and its so rare to see them playing pub. but someones gotta do it - and they dont get paid. if you think being such a high person on staff is a privillage, im sure your wrong. my only complaints about staff is they are choosing horrible new people lately. neodestroyer enters for the first time in 3 months, and pernille staffs him. seems many new staff are very new, and havnt been playing for a month (i got no proof). like, they actually would staff one of my squad members? i never noticed a problem with the bannings in 17th. they warn ya, you dont listen, they ban ya for a week. come back and do it again, its a month. im surprised they dont ban people who spam in the chats, or people they simply dont like. unless thats why 50 of my 70 squadmembers never come online now... Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 26, 2003 Report Posted November 26, 2003 Kent, we get a choice of what we want our name to be before we are made ER. You will find that quite a few people who play arent who you think they are, and have been playing for a long time. And Cencil is a ER Quote
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