9vgnc3eZ01 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Guide Posted: April 12, 2008, around 18:23 PST --- Prepare to be amazed (or not). These ships can very well rush, and I thought people with a lot of money on their hands might like to hear about it. So good ol' bored out of his wits decided to make layouts you could follow and very well be successful at rushing with "the big guys". The hardest to rush (and a very unlenient design to boot) is the Spider and the Leviathan. However, !@#$%^&*uming you got a huge stash in your pocket to burn (like 1 million perhaps) there is options for the insane. Here is what I devised. Spider & Levi: Doom TankerShips: $6000Guns: Phaser $25000Bombs: Salvo $11000Reactor Plants: ESPER System $10000Sublight Drives: Reflection Drive $30000Armor: Solid Nutronium $100000Addons: Total=$18400 -Power Strip $1400 -Maneuvering Fins $7000 -Deflector Shield $10000Emitters: Total=$37000 -Field Generator $25000 -Inertial Damper $12000Mounts: Total=$23500 -Defense Mount $8000 -Defense Mount $8000 -Speed Mount $7500FTL: Jump Engines $19000Capacity: Total=$325000 -Extra Addon $150000 -Extra Mount $175000Alien Technology: Antideath $250000GRANT TOTAL: $854000 ! This design revolves around making the Solid Nutronium useable and also getting as much HP as possible. As you see, I got +9 NRG and a meager addition of recharge. The rotations manages to stay at +0, you have slightly negative speed, and ample thrust. You will need the rockets to deal with the speed, and I hope base rot will be enough for your style. The capacity is very important with these ships, especially if your design is trying to include the Solid Nutronium armor (which is very important for helping tank those bullets you will inevitably hit, -49 base bullet defense and -25 bulletdamageup is easily desirable). Now the lanc is no doubt best suited for rushing. I've separated it because of some extra options that you will want to make on this particular ship. Lancaster: !@#$%^&*'s TankerShips: $10000Guns: Phaser $25000Bombs: Salvo $11000Reactor Plants: Resonance Sphere $18000Sublight Drives: Overthruster $9000Armor: Solid Nutronium $100000Addons: Total=$11400 -Power Strip $1400 -Deflector Shield $10000Emitters: Total=$45500 -Field Generator $25000 -Inertial Damper $12000 -Tachyon Sensors $8500Mounts: Total=$23500 -Defense Mount $8000 -Defense Mount $8000 -Speed Mount $7500FTL: Summoner $160000Capacity: Total=$375000 -Extra Mount $175000 -Extra Emitter $200000Alien Technology: Antideath $250000GRANT TOTAL: $ 1037500 !!! ...Talk about expensive. But notice your increased options, and the fact that you can get the extremely desirable overthruster for some yummy positive rot for your rockets. You can also shave 208500 simply if you don't want x-radar and without hurting its rushing performance. Well anyways I was just having fun brainstorming ideas for these ships =) Tell me what you think Edited April 13, 2008 by Relos Quote
Unix Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 Some of those items arent even allowed on those ships. Maneuvering fins not allowed on either ship. Only two emitters per ship - Two addons - Two mounts If you have extra addon, you cant have another capacity, but you can have extra mount and emitter. Solid isnt a good option imo O_o Quote
9vgnc3eZ01 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Well I'm lazy, Unix. Sorry. As for help: Improvise. You could get extra emitter Tachyon and simply deal with your negative -1 rot. Or just don't even buy an extra addon and sell the speed mount, buy a combo mount, and get some other armor. You will be back and to +1 rot that way, and even be able to burst 3 times, and repel 4 (right)? Again I'm not sure, but if so theres an alternative for spiders and levis. And as for a lanc, you would still seem to be fine. Edited April 13, 2008 by Relos Quote
Aishi Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 One thing to say-if im going to spend 1mil, or 850k on one of those rushers, id rather spend 325k on a shark instead.JUST so you know. Quote
9vgnc3eZ01 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Posted April 13, 2008 One thing to say-if im going to spend 1mil, or 850k on one of those rushers, id rather spend 325k on a shark instead.JUST so you know. Apparently its not obvious enough... but yeah I DID say "for the insane" up there. Perhaps in the future, when one is maxed... but for now, its just a possible way to make a good, effective rusher out of them. My purpose for this is actually because people don't think it'll work. Well, enjoy looking at it. Quote
vetta64 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 This is debatable I guess but I did a way better rushing spider for less than half that ZPM - duhH2ramscoopShock matrixPower strip 2 Defense mountDeflector shield (totals 3 reps and two burst and a couple others thats not so important. Quote
Rivel Posted April 13, 2008 Report Posted April 13, 2008 Maybe cloak shaper on either of those setups could helps instead of the Power strip Quote
15th Posted July 5, 2008 Report Posted July 5, 2008 Incorrect Rivel. Cloak shaper on those ships wouldnt matter. Your ship is so fat that all the bullets would hit it anyway. Quote
Guest Sogeki Posted August 9, 2008 Report Posted August 9, 2008 Ok, so i was bored. Heres a better build for levi. LeviathanResonance sphereReflection drivePhaserSalvoDefense MountDefense MountCombo MountDeflector ShieldPower stripField GeneratorExtra Mount Quote
9vgnc3eZ01 Posted August 9, 2008 Author Report Posted August 9, 2008 Hmm I'm going to have to update this soon. I'll add a couple different builds and change the fairly stupid names for the already existing builds Quote
Unix Posted August 9, 2008 Report Posted August 9, 2008 Ok, so i was bored. Heres a better build for levi. LeviathanResonance sphereReflection drivePhaserSalvoDefense MountDefense MountCombo MountDeflector ShieldPower stripField GeneratorExtra MountToo slow Quote
vetta64 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Posted August 9, 2008 Spider: ZPMDefense DefenseDeflector shieldH2SalvoPulseShockAWInertial damperPower strip Extra what?I was thinking extra addon with Parrallel or tunnel runner? is slow but I can push the line back pretty well, and add a meat shield while I do it. Quote
vetta64 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 still slow but I bet you cant get by in a base even with ad oooooooooo challange. Quote
Aishi Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 How is it to slow?.?iteminfo combo mount+------------------+| Combo Mount |+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+| Buy Price | Sell Price | Exp | Ships | Max | Ammo | Item Types || $50000 | $20800 | 5000 | 1234567 | 1 | None | -20 Repeller, Signature, -15 Bullet Burst, -10 Thor's Hammer, Mount |+-----------+------+-----+-------+----------+-----+------------------+--------------------------------+| This grants one of every Subspace item except a brick. This mount requires ammo for bursts, repels, thors, and rockets. |+------------------+----------------+-----------------------------------------------------------------+| Property Name | Property Value |+------------------+----------------+| repelmax | +1 || decoy | +1 || burstmax | +1 || portal | +1 || thormax | +1 || rocket | +1 || decoymax | +1 || rocketmax | +1 || portalmax | +1 |+------------------+----------------+ Notice the rocketmax +1 Quote
vetta64 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 Spider (6000): ZPM (51000)Defense mount (8000)Defense mount (8000)Deflector shield (10000)H2 Ramscoop (30000)Shock Matrix (14000)Power strip (1400)Warp Disruption (4000)Inertial Damper (12000)Salvo (11000)Pulse Laser (5000)G-Battery (63500) AD (250000) $422900 Quote
Acer Posted October 13, 2008 Report Posted October 13, 2008 For a rushing spider? Spiders aren't for rushing, that's why they are slow! Quote
vetta64 Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 I beg to differ. Spider does not die as quickly.No rockets and I can blow through a whole bline in one try. Quote
Stibbymicto Posted October 21, 2008 Report Posted October 21, 2008 I beg to differ. Spider does not die as quickly.No rockets and I can blow through a whole bline in one try. Quote
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