Charis Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 To sum it up the zombie theory is: You are the only person in this world with a thought process. Everyone around you is mindless zombies that affect your atmosphere, and ultimatly you have control over what everyone does. Disect this if you wish. What parts do you think is true, why?Why do you disagree if you do? Comment post.
Charis Posted April 4, 2008 Author Report Posted April 4, 2008 When i posted this i didnt say you had to agree with it...
FMBI Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) sex Sorry, someone beat you to this by a couple thousand years. And it's not "zombie theory", it's "solipsism." Have you been reading Heinlein again? Edited April 4, 2008 by Finland My BorgInvasion
Aileron Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 It's not entirely dumb, as there is no one for any one person to disprove the theory to himself. Here's another thing to blow your mind...maybe the universe is infact 10 seconds old, but has a historical backlog written in reverse time from the point of origin, and you were in fact born a few seconds ago but have a lifetime of artificial memory. However, science applies to physical world by axiom. Science !@#$%^&*umes that if a tree falls in the forest, it makes a sound. Thus your theory cannot be judged scientifically because it lies outside the bounds which science is constrained to by axiom. A good way to describe it is by video game, where the player is interacting with two npcs, one on-screen and one off-screen. On some level the npcs phase in and out of illusionary 'existence' as the player looks towards and away from them, but according to the game-world's math, both npcs are in 'existence' at all times. The sad thing that while no one thinks this theory is true, I've met a lot of people who believe it to be true. That is, they make token gestures to acknowledge others, but are incredibly selfish at heart. The best example here in this forum are those, and you know who you are, who think the average citizen/voting public are zombies. Several months back I found myself in one of those political arguments in MG's pub chat. It was about the War on Terror, and this guy, I don't remember his name, so I'll call him "Steve", was losing the argument. Finally he challenged me "Okay, Mr. Know-it-all, name five countries which border Afghanistan." I happened to have studied a map of Afghanistan a few months earlier, so I was able to name off Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan, and Iran. The only reason I remembered the map is because the map had some statistics on it and I found the difference between the literacy rates interesting. It certainly wasn't that great of a feat - It was more luck than anything, and I remember watching kids fill out the map of Africa on public television, while I could probably only place about half a dozen of them correctly. The point being though was that I knew something that he didn't know, and furthermore something he didn't think was possible for someone else to know. Essentially I disproved the zombie theory to him. Steve however wasn't that mature and !@#$%^&*umed that I had infact googled my response and that I was a poser of a know-it-all. He made that accusation because he simply could not comprehend that it was possible for another person to exist, and came up with whatever unlikely story he could in order to keep the zombie theory alive inside his mind. Jesus referred to those such as Steve as being 'blind'.
ThunderJam Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 just cause you can make a theory that has doesn't contradict what we already think, doesnt mean its anywhere near probable
JDS Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 original posters theory is logical.. but improbable because while you have a thought process and everyone is zombies.. the next person also has a thought process and you are but a mindless zombie to them. The world is what you make it pretty much.
Aileron Posted April 4, 2008 Report Posted April 4, 2008 Or it is a zombie doing a very good job of acting like it isn't a zombie. It's not entirely circular either. I think, therefore I am. However, whether or not you think is unknown to me. You act like you think, but I don't read your thoughts so I don't know. Really, think of it like The Matrix, only without other people plugged into it. Still, I'd say anyone who believes it is a jack!@#$%^&*.
Bak Posted April 5, 2008 Report Posted April 5, 2008 so not to raise a fuss but this is one line of attack against atheism. We try to be scientific and say that we don't believe something unless there is proof for it (and then apply that towards the supernatural). But there is no (non-circular) proof that there are minds other than my own or that memory actually represents events in the past (that the universe wasn't formed 10 seconds ago with my memories intact).
Aileron Posted April 5, 2008 Report Posted April 5, 2008 Well, that's the point. Any scientist worth his salt will tell you that science cannot answer this question. If the universe could be described as a box, the only thing science determines is the contents of the box. It cannot answer questions about why the box is there, what the box is made of, what is the environment around the box, etc. Applying science towards the supernatural is like trying to make toast with your blender. It is simply the wrong tool for the function.
Bak Posted April 5, 2008 Report Posted April 5, 2008 but this isn't even supernatural, which is disturbing
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