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I liked Barack's speech. But both Barack and Pat seem to be saying the same thing: "the status quo is not working". Neither seem to propose a solution, although addressing the problem a step in the right direction.
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The solution is the one proposed by Booker T Washington: Black people need to earn professional positions, and after that everything would take care of itself.

 

Problem 1: There seem to be a lot of them who want to grow up to become gangsters, pimps, rap artists, and professional athletes. All are waste of talented individuals, where criminals run counter to society, and there are probably a lot of individuals who would be good businessmen and engineers who instead focus all their talents on being a mediocre basketball player.

 

Additionally, black individuals who do go to college for the purpose of being a professional all to frequently major in things like "Race Relations", and other stuff too vague to get a job. The solution would involve a large population of blacks majoring in Accounting, Engineering, Science, Medicine, etc. to offset the current problems.

 

 

Problem 2: There is a tendency to blame everything that goes wrong in life on white people. Blacks go to college, and they have difficulty. That's because everyone has difficulty in college. They also have problems getting a real job after college, just like everyone else. Those situations are inherent, but because blacks are convinced of 'subconscious racism'*, they tend to sit in the mud rather than overcome the difficulty.

 

From my life, I had difficulty in college graduating with a math major, and in the ten months since I graduated the only job I got was working in an !@#$%^&*embly line putting stuff in corrugated boxes for minimum wage. If I were black, I'd probably blame my situation on the system, but since I'm not my only choice is to try to find a way to solve my problem.

 

The best way to describe the situation is that old Ziggy cartoon, where Ziggy is standing beside the "Ladder of Opportunity", only to find that the lowest rung of the ladder is 10 feet off of the ground and too high for him to reach. People generally need to create means of getting on that bottom rung on their own. The societal solution is that there cannot be an excuse for people failing to reach that bottom rung, because with that excuse they convince themselves its impossible.

 

 

 

Overall, the solutions are known, and have been stated even by black people such as Booker T. Washington, J. C. Watts, Bill Crosby and Colin Powell. The only reason those solutions aren't put into practice is because the NAACP has become a corrupt political machine which demonizes and sues anyone who proposes the solution in a public theater. Probably because when black people earn a respectable living on their own, they will no longer need the NAACP in its current capacity. If I were a politician, and this post was my speech, I'd be put out of office.

 

 

 

*Subconscious Racism is a complete and total piece of bull!@#$%^&*. The notion of the subconscious has frequently been used fill in a failed hypothesis with imaginary data, and has been used that way since its inception. Sigmund Freud himself stated that people have a subconscious desire to have sex with their parents, because such a desire would conveniently 'prove' one of his theories without having to go through the trouble of identifying empirical patterns in the subject's behavior to justify his claims. Observe as I use the process to prove a bung theory:

 

Hypothesis: Bak has a desire to learn knitting so he can put on a chicken costume and play the role of the character "Baps" from "Chicken Run".

 

Observed data: (Pretending I spent time stalking Bak) Bak has not purchased any knitting supplies, has not been requesting lessons from people who know how to knit, has not been spending time in or near a costume shop, and has not been watching "Chicken Run" more often than usual.

 

Conclusion: I'm right, but his desire is subconscious, which explains why the data is completely inconsistent with my hypothesis.

 

The notion of the subconscious is all too often used as subjective bung, and probably is why Psychology is not considered an actual science. Subconscious Racism is simply one example of it being used in this way.

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believe so, yes.. not that that's such an odd ideology though. around these parts, quite a few would like a nice big wall blocking us from mexico.

 

btw, didnt visit ssforum for a long time so didnt see your response aileron. i agree totally. it's bizarre how people like cosby get sidelined by the other so-called "black leaders". or you get someone like clarence thomas that is just totally reviled.

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Long post alert.

 

 

Human Events.. that's the same group that sends me !@#$%^&*ing re!@#$%^&*ed e-mails every day (don't ask me where they got my address from). Pat's articles are the only ones I can even stand, though they still smell rabid.

 

As far as this goes - F him.

 

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

 

Is it just me, or do I hear the white man's burden in here? 600,000 black people "reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known"? You know, he just might be forgetting that Africa under the Romans was prosperous, Nubia was prosperous, many regions of southern Africa (especially the Great Lakes region) were prosperous, and right now several African countries which were forced to endure competent leadership (where were our !@#$%^&* puppets when we needed them?), most obviously Botswana, enjoy very generous benefits - I'm sure, given the choice, many inner-city, mom-was-a-!@#$%^&*-dad-was-a-druggy kids would rather be there than here.

 

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

 

Except for those !@#$%^&* Africans themselves. And perhaps we're forgetting that race was a non-issue in Europe as early as the mid-1800s in many regions - 100 years before we officially broke the white man's superiority? I don't care how many food stamps you shove down their throat, if the nationwide policy is to encourage a very deep-running unconscious racism (@ Ail - it does, in fact exist. For example, my father claims he isn't racist at all, yet he jumps on the anti-arab, anti-mexican, wagon every time he can. Go figure.), to encourage them to "live somewhere else" (inner-cities cause just about everyone to go bad, but if you ensure that they're stuck there, what do you expect?), and to all the while claim that because we (admittedly) have thrown massive amounts of money in a pointless, business-as-usual manner, everything's fixed.

 

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

 

I'm guessing that he's never heard of racial profiling? Let's do the math. You have police officers who are several (exact figure depends on area) times more likely to pick up a black than a white for the same crime. That slims it to, let's say, 2-1 odds. Now consider that whites in America are likely to live anywhere, and most try to get out of big cities. However, in the north, blacks live almost exclusively in cities, which are basically breeding tanks of violence and anti-social behavior. In other words, you're stacking the odds at every stage of the game. I'd say blacks are doing quite well considering all the factors.

 

As far as illegitimacy and dropouts - illegitimacy is a major problem because of the crime culture that, forgive me for saying this another time, is natural in inner cities - dropouts are likely because of low expectations and the illegitimacy factor, not to mention the fact that teachers are less likely to put effort into students if they have a pre-expectation of the student not doing as well.

 

 

Normally Buchanan at least represents the logical side of conservatism, much as I disagree with him, but this article is one of the self-righteous, skip 90% of the facts, things that really annoys me.

 

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http://buchanan.org/blog/?p=983

 

^^ new blog post

 

 

Is it just me, or do I hear the white man's burden in here? 600,000 black people "reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known"? You know, he just might be forgetting that Africa under the Romans was prosperous, Nubia was prosperous, many regions of southern Africa (especially the Great Lakes region) were prosperous, and right now several African countries which were forced to endure competent leadership (where were our !@#$%^&* puppets when we needed them?), most obviously Botswana, enjoy very generous benefits - I'm sure, given the choice, many inner-city, mom-was-a-!@#$%^&*-dad-was-a-druggy kids would rather be there than here.

You think so? Give up all the free welfare? No, I seriously doubt there'd be much of a "back to Africa" movement.. Not sure about comment about African countries that were "forced to endure competant leadership". I can only think of places like Zimbabwe (RIP Rhodesia) and South Africa. I think they were doing better when they were "forced to endure competant leadership"? What's the inflation in Zimbabwe now? 100,000%? Or is it still only in the ten thousands? Is Mugabe still busy killing all his political rivals? I'm honestly not sure if you're agreeing with the man or disagreeing. I mean, Romans were white Italians were they not? South Africa's Mbeki and AIDS? LoL.

 

Botswana has high per capita because of some diamond mines and it's concentrated on very few people. The average life expectancy there is under 35 years and I wouldn't be too shocked if the rate of AIDS is at or approaching 50%.

 

I'm guessing that he's never heard of racial profiling? Let's do the math. You have police officers who are several (exact figure depends on area) times more likely to pick up a black than a white for the same crime. That slims it to, let's say, 2-1 odds. Now consider that whites in America are likely to live anywhere, and most try to get out of big cities. However, in the north, blacks live almost exclusively in cities, which are basically breeding tanks of violence and anti-social behavior. In other words, you're stacking the odds at every stage of the game. I'd say blacks are doing quite well considering all the factors.

Well, I just see this as typical spew. Ah, "exact figure" depends on area... statistics available at your local library.

 

You also have people like this:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8b_1209233457

 

Obvious blatant racism. Lawsuit warranted! The sad thing is that this is just typical behavior...

 

As for people that connect poverty with crime.. West Virginia is ranked 49th in per capita income in the USA and 50th in family income. It's ranked 51st in amount of crime per capita (this includes DC) and 48th in violent crime per capita. It's also 95% white and has a nearly 20% poverty rate.

 

I dunno, why do people continue to fool themselves? What's needed is more Cosbys and less Sharptons and Jacksons.

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is buchanan the guy who wants to build a massive wall the entire length of the mexico us border?

 

Can anyone give me some more background info on this?

Not much to say about it. buchanan supports building a 2000 mile fence on the border with mexico. it was also one of the platforms he ran on when he ran for pres.

 

case, an August 18, 2007 rasmussen reports poll reported that Americans favored building a fence along the U.S. border with Mexico by a margin of 56 percent in favor and 31 percent against. The poll found that among those who identified themselves as Republicans 75 percent supported building a fence along the border. run this poll in texas, new mexico, etc, exclusively, and the numbers would be even higher.

 

something similar, H.R. 4437 in 2005 (700 miles of fence) passed the house 239-182 but failed in the senate.

 

so buchanan is one of "the guys" that wants to build a massive "wall", but so do most other people apparently. i dont really get why it was brought up anyway. i guess it's supposed to make him look like some sort of out of tune nutter.

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You also have people like this:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b8b_1209233457

 

Obvious blatant racism. Lawsuit warranted! The sad thing is that this is just typical behavior...

 

Are you !@#$%^&*ing kidding me (did we watch the same video?)? She was a !@#$%^&*ing idiot; before tasers she would have gotten beat up for resisting arrest.

i was being sarcastic =).. if she had just cooperated, she probably would have just gotten a warning.

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how about we build a one mile fence around pat buchanan smile.gif

i think thatd be a bit excessive. good porkbelly project for mr buchanan home state. just hope those contractors dont use illegal immigrant labor... those ASSS aggressive.gif

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