Killerbot Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Dutch Islam film 'nearly ready' Mr Wilders is the leader of the Dutch Freedom Party. Far-right Dutch MP Geert Wilders has said that this week he will finish a film about Islam which has already triggered Muslim outrage. Mr Wilders said he was determined to release the film despite government warnings that this would damage Dutch political and economic interests. Mr Wilders says the film is about the Koran' date=' without giving details. In the past, he has called for the Koran to be banned and likened it to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. The project has already been condemned by several Muslim countries, including Iran and Pakistan. [b']'Death threats' [/b]"It is very good news. the film will definitely be finished this week, that is to say before 1 March," Mr Wilders told Reuters. The lawmaker said he expected that his 15-minute work would then be shown in the Netherlands in March and also released on the internet. On Wednesday, the Dutch justice and foreign ministers discussed the issue with Mr Wilders, urging him to drop the project. The ministers expressed concerns over the damage the film could unleash politically, economically and for Dutch businesses and individuals living abroad. Last month, Mr Wilders said the Dutch authorities had let him know that he may have to leave the country for his own safety amid reports of death threats to him from Islamic militants. Van Gogh murder Mr Wilders leads the Freedom Party, which has nine seats in the Dutch parliament. He says Dutch culture is superior to what he describes as a re!@#$%^&*ed Islamic culture and believes immigrants must !@#$%^&*imilate by getting rid of what he calls the intolerant and fascist parts of the Koran. Mr Wilders has had police protection since Dutch director Theo Van Gogh was killed by a radical Islamist in 2004. Mr Van Gogh's film Submission included verses from the Koran shown against a naked female body. As well as the killing of Mr Van Gogh, Dutch politicians are mindful of the widespread protests by Muslims that followed the publication of cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad in newspapers in Denmark and other European countries in 2006. Im not a muslim, but find it complete bull!@#$%^&*. Seriously think he should be banned from NL. Discuss.
Bak Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 I think Islam has a chip on its shoulder. Free speech isn't free if you only allow people to say things you agree with.
Killerbot Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Posted March 7, 2008 I think Islam has a chip on its shoulder. Free speech isn't free if you only allow people to say things you agree with. It's not just dutch muslims protesting. Also countries that don't have freedom of speech, eg Pakistan; Today was the national protesting day against the Netherlands. Dutch amb!@#$%^&*adors are forced to leave Pakistan.
Aileron Posted March 7, 2008 Report Posted March 7, 2008 Look, the Aileron/Bak agreement percentage for this politics forum is about 2%. This is one of those times. Additionally I find it ironic that muslims are making such an effort to prove that Geert Wilder is correct in many of his statements.
Killerbot Posted March 7, 2008 Author Report Posted March 7, 2008 Additionally I find it ironic that muslims are making such an effort to prove that Geert Wilder is correct in many of his statements. That's another way to look at it
Bak Posted March 8, 2008 Report Posted March 8, 2008 If his 15-minute movie was about inconsistencies in the New Testament, factual inaccuracies in the Torah, Mormans wearing magic underwear, or the ridiculousness of Scientology, no one would care. The Dutch ministers wouldn't tell him to stop making the film, he wouldn't have to prepare to leave the country because of death threats, and there wouldn't be a national day of protest anywhere on the world. I know it's 10% of the Muslims who do 90% of the complaining but come on, do they really expect to control what people are saying on the other side of the world?
2pac Posted March 8, 2008 Report Posted March 8, 2008 i'd kill him for even making a dumb!@#$%^&* movie in the first place.
Bak Posted March 10, 2008 Report Posted March 10, 2008 American woman arrested, strip-searched for sitting with a male coworker in starbucks: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/07/...in3800725.shtml We let them have stupid laws in their own countries, why do we want them influencing ours?
Killerbot Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Posted March 27, 2008 It's "finaly" there.. check it out on liveleakand tell me what you think
Drake7707 Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 We let them have stupid laws in their own countries, why do we want them influencing ours? I agree Each country can have his own rules and rights for now (although the human rights organisation would like otherwise), but i find it pretty irritating that the influence spreads so far within our own countries, and those act with an overflowing amount of arrogance that they are being targeted as soon as some law restricts them in a way. They want us to adapt to their needs and demands while they are still (and hopefully always) the minority. By all means i don't care what religion theybelieve in but at least don't annoy other people with it AND follow the rules of the country that has not even remotely anything to do with non-western ideologies, even if it contradicts their belief. Simple (extreme) example: - Serial killers form a believe to kill ppl - They do as they wish - We have to cave in to their demands to respect their believe Now apply this is on a nation scale and you have the islam Btw if this gets out of hand you just know this _will_ lead to world war III between western and islamitic countries and there's nothing the UN can do about it
Killerbot Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Posted March 27, 2008 (edited) Download the movie here: Rapidshareor watch it here liveleak and discuss.. I think Wilders' got himself in very deep trouble Edited March 27, 2008 by Killerbot
Samapico Posted March 27, 2008 Report Posted March 27, 2008 any translated / sub!@#$%^&*led version available? (I merged the 2 topics)
Killerbot Posted March 27, 2008 Author Report Posted March 27, 2008 Theres an english version on liveleak also, and thats ok sama
Bak Posted March 29, 2008 Report Posted March 29, 2008 !@#$%^&* man that was boring. I could have made that with windows movie maker given all those video clips.
Killerbot Posted March 31, 2008 Author Report Posted March 31, 2008 Yeah true but would you give up your life for such a movie? lol
Aileron Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 Hey, what'd you expect? It wasn't supposed to be a multi-billion dollar Hollywood action movie.
protoman.exe Posted April 1, 2008 Report Posted April 1, 2008 http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?d...102968312745410 there it is, for now.
Hellonearth Posted April 2, 2008 Report Posted April 2, 2008 i can only reply with one thing on this thread GetThe!@#$%^&*Out
Killerbot Posted April 2, 2008 Author Report Posted April 2, 2008 i can only reply with one thing on this thread GetThe!@#$%^&*Out You mean; "Get the !@#$%^&* out of europe, you muslims!" or do I get you wrong ?
»doc flabby Posted April 2, 2008 Report Posted April 2, 2008 (edited) The ironic thing is all the threats etc that are getting the movie removed from websites are only making the film itself more credible. Without these threats etc the film could easily be dismissed as a extreme right wing propagranda. The very fact its caused to much upset (amounst people who havnt even seen it) leads other people to think (mistakenly or not) that some of what the film must be true, or at least have a degree of truth to it. If no one had made any threats and the movie had been allowed to be shown, i doubt anyone would have noticed or cared.Then again rationality seems to be lacking from alot of people iN this world. Personally i think the very reaction of some parts of the world and people gives the film far more meaning that it would otherwise. I think the film maker is very clever, he knows the film is crap, he makes a crap film putting as much things that will cause "upset" in it. His point he is trying to make is not made by the film, rather by the reaction to it. The reaction tells you everything you need to know, without even having to see the film. (after all the people reacting to it, most have not even seen it) Edited April 2, 2008 by doc flabby
NBVegita Posted April 2, 2008 Report Posted April 2, 2008 Yes and No. The catholic church came out with extreme opposition to the Da vinci Code and there is little to no grounding behind that movie. But I do agree that to the masses the stronger the opposition opposes (funny context) the stronger the validity is believed.
Aileron Posted April 2, 2008 Report Posted April 2, 2008 No, the Church hardly said a thing about that movie. I know my priest didn't. Most of us are of the "who the !@#$%^&* cares?" variety...though I myself am annoyed that those themed movies seem to keep building upon themselves and creating their own freaky cult following. The problem is that when you get an organization with a billion members in it, if a fringe of 0.001% of the total members of that organization protest, that segment has a protesting force of 10,000, and that fringe segment can seem quite large. I used to think Islam was the same way, that because they are a multiple-nation-spanning religion, that the 1% fringe can still make huge appearances. Now, however, I suspect that it might be something entirely different.
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