Basing

[Guest Xun Yu]

Basically, its playable as opposed to earlier. Priv freqs are gone, however the same mentality isn't: players looking to rig the system for as much money as possible, and this never leads to a playable game. The devs could do the best job, the problem is that there are players who are looking to subvert each implementation that the devs put in to make the game more playable, and they these players do this in order to make lots of money.

 

Let's take a look at the teams for today's basing:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5827/ratioth7.png

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5489/ratiofullkq9.th.png

I think we all know the chances of freq 0's kill ratio being nearly 2:3 and freq 1's kill ratio being 3:2... this impossible due to "draw of the dice" or luck... Players chose certain teams, and these players on freq 1 prefer an easy mode game, as opposed to one requiring skill or advancing their skills by playing under difficulty.

 

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2918/f2hn7.png

I think anyone here can see a certain group of players on freq 1. How did they all on that freq? A mod moved them there when they asked (again, subverting what the devs implemented to make the game fair for all players. Notice how freq 0 is dropping? This is later in the game after freq 0 gave up. They didn't have any money to use thors to attack. Basically this what happens everyday, these same players insist on getting all 20 flags, playing defense.

 

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7301/terrsmn5.png

In this screen shot, most of the players from freq 0 are dead/respawning, they are basically small ships with not much upgrades. The other freq is basically 8 terrs, 1 wb (who i think is friends with this group lol and hasn't been playing much lately), 2-3 lancs, and unix's wzl, which has insane funding, yet sucks (moves slowly, gets pwnt by a falc fast). This other team isn't skilled, just matching the teams against players with 2months-1 year experience/10-50k money against richer players. Then we have idiots like canadian pride "i'm the best rusher here lulz". This is pathedic. If freq 0 only had some players like stylez thoring, or just any player who could afford to thor, then there would be a playable basing game at least, not a flawless one, but at least playable.

[Guest Xun Yu]

And the only thing which balanced anything out at all? Ironically:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5933/34879866to2.png

 

 

After this balancing we go right back to that same kill ratio for the 2 freqs, same problem is recurring and the same mod is moving certain people to the freq they ask for:

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7996/ratio2zk1.png

 

 

I want you all to take a look at how a certain mod (not saying who, mod abuse doesn't belong on forums, how we are allowed to talk about the basing game) handles his mod *privileges*:

At first this is what f2 looks like before:

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5145/after2ii1.png

^Clearly this is 14v15 (freq 1 14, freq 0 15)

 

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8454/obviousabuse2rh8.png

How did freq 0 go to 17 while freq 1 was loosing members from a size of 14? A mod is moving "that group" to freq 1. So now you have both players and mods subverting the rules in the game, and what happens as a result? A picture is worth a 1000 words, take a look above, or just play the game, chances are u will be on the freq which has no chance/no attackers, as a opposed to the other freq, which is too ez/boring.

Edited February 29, 2008 by Xun Yu

[Unix]

Eh? Just so you know, the team that the "favorites" were on were originally the attacking team. So there isnt anything about favoritism or whatever involved, it's just how people choose to enter game.

 

As for ships, I do notice how your team does have terrs, a spider, a lanc. So dont knock it off to it's people with money vs poor. People just dont know how to rush properly anymore.

 

Btw, my weasel alone dominated your team about 5 or so times, so I doubt it's getting "pwnt" all that much.

[Masaru]

About all of your allegations of a moderator 'moving people to one freq'. I can say that there was no such thing from my end. I know that players might think 'oh no, we're getting handled! it must be the MODS fault!' kind of thinking going on, but I can !@#$%^&*ure that I did not switch anybody over from that game.

[Arry]

This topic is primarily about mod abuse, and what isn't about mod abuse is a rant about players taking advantage of the system. Which... players always do in every game. This topic is useless and should be closed imo.

[Guest Xun Yu]

About all of your allegations of a moderator 'moving people to one freq'. I can say that there was no such thing from my end. I know that players might think 'oh no, we're getting handled! it must be the MODS fault!' kind of thinking going on, but I can !@#$%^&*ure that I did not switch anybody over from that game.

"Allegations"? You mean proof right? So, how did a dwindling freq of size 14 go against a freq that grew from 15 to 17?. The zone log should show all mod commands issued (as well as pub chat, requests asking [mod name] move me to freq [x]). If you say that you didn't, well I believe you, I doubt you would come here and lie to everyone as that wouldn't make any sense.

 

 

 

This topic is primarily about mod abuse, and what isn't about mod abuse is a rant about players taking advantage of the system. Which... players always do in every game. This topic is useless and should be closed imo.

No, this topic is primarily against your actions, and how you have ruined this zones playability. In this case, and only by *chance*, there looks to have been a mod involved, sadly.

Edited February 29, 2008 by Xun Yu

[Unix]

Screen shots dont show the entire story.

 

For all we know the team sizes did increase, but you didnt even realize it. Things like that do happen. However, if you're paying attention more to the team sizes than playing, that might be a reason why your team is doing so poorly.

 

Playability? This zone is running 20v20 games at peak everyday now. So I guess it's still playable.

[Arry]

This topic is primarily about mod abuse, and what isn't about mod abuse is a rant about players taking advantage of the system. Which... players always do in every game. This topic is useless and should be closed imo.

No, this topic is primarily against your actions, and how you have ruined this zones playability. In this case, and only by *chance*, there looks to have been a mod involved, sadly.

Wait a second... this is about -MY- actions? I wasn't even playing today.... look at your screenshots. You're ranting because players are switching teams to get on the better team or on the team with their friends. Yes, I've done this in the past by spectating and waiting for the numbers to go favorable for switching teams. This isn't illegal and there's plenty of people who do it and there's nothing that's gonna change. You either get on the team you want to be on via legal means or you shut up and play and try to do the best with what you've got. If you don't want to base you can go back to center and then the base game will die out, the other team will win the jackpot and a new game will start. That's all there is to it.

 

I agree, if a mod switches people, that's abuse, but this isn't the place for that. If you look at the body of your post you'll see that most of it is about a mod switching people.

Edited February 29, 2008 by Arry

[Mgs]

Maybe there should be a plugin or something that makes the freq that has all 20 flags locked intill the other team has got the same amount of players as the team with the flags and it would unlock. I would solve all this. I think. Lol, But it's not mod abuse every one knows that. It's just the players want money and they will do anything to get it, even make the game unfair to the other players.

[Guest Xun Yu]

You're ranting because players are switching teams to get on the better team or on the team with their friends. Yes, I've done this in the past by spectating and waiting for the numbers to go favorable for switching teams.

 

And you're ranting because you don't like for others to mention this? Bawwwwww whamblance collision detected. Clever, fight trolling with trolling to get topic locked. My mistake to have replied in the first place.

[Arry]

And you're ranting because you don't like for others to mention this? Bawwwwww whamblance collision detected. Clever, fight trolling with trolling to get topic locked. My mistake to have replied in the first place.

Please don't mistake my highly enlightened posts for ranting. I'm quite qualified to throw my three cents in here (yes, I have three cents where mere mortals only have two). You quite obviously have nothing left to say on topic because you've resorted to attacking my reasons for posting and not debating the content therein.

Edited February 29, 2008 by Arry

[Suicide_Run]

Lol if Cerium was here, he will probably say u have some conspiracy theory against the mod that you believed to have "switched" people to freqs.

 

If you look at your own screenshots, you could see theres a 15 min interval between them. Alot of things can happen in those 15mins to change the freq size beside mods abusing powers to switch players to a different freq. Players can easily gotten into game, increased the freq vs freq size and people on freq 1 could have left afterwards cause they have given up.

 

Just cause you dont want to hop onto defending freq, doesnt mean other people wont.

[Matrim Cauthon]

Then we have idiots like canadian pride "i'm the best rusher here lulz"

i said nothing of the sort, even if i had, quote correctly, i never use lulz, i dont even know what it means

 

I think anyone here can see a certain group of players on freq 1. How did they all on that freq? A mod moved them there when they asked (again, subverting what the devs implemented to make the game fair for all players. Notice how freq 0 is dropping? This is later in the game after freq 0 gave up. They didn't have any money to use thors to attack. Basically this what happens everyday, these same players insist on getting all 20 flags, playing defense.

people sit in spec and wait for the correct moment to join, and from ur screenshots i can tell its the flag game that 1 freq had 2 flags defended, 1 freq had 18. Its freq 0's fault for atking and leaving their own base relatively unguarded allowing unix's wzl to kill everyone. and mods dont switch all good people to 1 side,btw.

 

(hey cool, i c myself on the screenshot in base 4,{the tiny afk blue dot in the flagroom})

Edited March 2, 2008 by Matrim Cauthon

[Guest Xun Yu]

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1034/hateraiduq5.jpg

the only people replying to (but not reading) this post are ig. ^ I kill them while on the other freq and bty up to 25-40 A LOT. These guys *prefer* to play against players with no money/little experience and so often, that only coma vicitims would find this entertaining.

[Unix]

25-40 bnty? I get that in a lanc by accident.

 

And about half are from Ignescent who have replied on this topic.

[Pity.]

*Yawn* Pointless topic. Thanks for the pictures, I see my favourite wzl: Unix!

[»Ceiu]

Lol if Cerium was here, he will probably say u have some conspiracy theory against the mod that you believed to have "switched" people to freqs.

 

If you look at your own screenshots, you could see theres a 15 min interval between them. Alot of things can happen in those 15mins to change the freq size beside mods abusing powers to switch players to a different freq. Players can easily gotten into game, increased the freq vs freq size and people on freq 1 could have left afterwards cause they have given up.

 

Just cause you dont want to hop onto defending freq, doesnt mean other people wont.

*Yawn* Pointless topic. Thanks for the pictures, I see my favourite wzl: Unix!

[Choose Profile]

sui pretty much said it...

 

xun, for someone with only 8 posts, you sure are able to bug the !@#$%^&* out of me in every single one of them.

 

what your alledging to be "abuse" is the same thing that happens during every large scale public flagging game.

 

Honestly I dont like most of the mods and would love to jump on your bandwagon, but you are just way off point here and all your allegations are 99% false.

[Unix]

Hi pity!!!

 

I was owning them all, and Xun Yu is complaining about it now

 

I have AD now, btw

[Dr Brain]

There's no reason a mod has to move players from one freq to another. They're perfectly capable of doing it themselves. Even more so if they're "vets".