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!@#$%^&*o all

Since this is the only forum I ever bother to read I guess Ill post this here indeed.

Most people refer to the human mind as a very complex computer and if this is so true has anyone ever wonder how we go about programming this computer and in what language? Getting more forward to the point I've been trying to change myself for years, how I think, feel and do things. I've discovered a variety of methods and had this chat with many a person.

 

Some simple methods people use to program them self to do stuff is to get into a routine, not very adaptable though you need a whole routine for a new task it seems silly. Another method is to wear something, flick themselves or draw somethiing on their hand to help remind them what they're meant to do.

 

Some methods I've found useful are below:

 

Music

certain music makes a person feel certain ways, say if I wanted to exercise more I'd play more energetic music (eye of the tiger). Music works strongly on people's emotion and can make them do something they would normally not do, a reason why its used in combination with alcohol in clubs and such.

 

Mind techniques

Now this is one I've found extremely usefull this is based of a religious belief of magic. The Hermetic Order Of The Golden Sun was originally based in england during the early 19th century. Their beliefs were based on magic was made by the human mind, some of these beliefs did go border line cult but their mind techniques are a great idea.

The technique I'm using at the moment is visualizing images in my mind. You start off by creating your own room and fill it with pictures, sounds, colours and music of things you want to remember or remember to do. An example is on one side of my room which i've shaped as a white temple or church I have a picture frame with numbers in it, these numbers are to remind me of what page I'm on in a book, works pretty well.

Another idea is this is I have a pallette of colours near the main part of the room. Easy colour represents a mood or feeling, when I've felt these feelings I store them under a colour and then later I am able to call on them by remember what I felt at that time when thinking of the colour. Helps when I want to fall asleep to.

Also your body does know how time flows. If you want to wake up at a normal time all you have to do is think of the time you want to wake up and lone behold you should wake up around that time!

 

What I want to know from you guys is what do you do to help program your own mind? How do you remember to do stuff?

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Repeating it to myself in a rhythm, and it eventually will stick.

 

Never thought about it before honestly, but I do always seem to do that.

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My room has red/black floor tiles, walls and cieling, and some very fast computers with some very fast internet, and a freezer that always has hot pockets in it. Yes, there's a microwave too.

 

Seriously though, that wake yourself up at a certain time thing sounds cool :(

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My room has red/black floor tiles, walls and cieling, and some very fast computers with some very fast internet, and a freezer that always has hot pockets in it. Yes, there's a microwave too.

 

Seriously though, that wake yourself up at a certain time thing sounds cool :(

 

lol its possible I've woken up several times before my alarm clock.. like 5 minutes before.

 

Think about it how did people years ago do it with no device of time? We know time very well

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yeah, once you wake up a lot on the same time, you adjust your biorythm to wake up on its own.

 

Try adjusting to time when you don't have a wrist watch anymore >.> , after a while you can guess time pretty well

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Read into NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming) - That's pretty much your answer. Most books on it are a very long monotonous read, but it does work, although a lot of people are very sceptical of it.
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Depending what you are wanting to change you might be better looking into Cognitive Behavior Therapy blum.gif

 

your Behavoir governs how effectively you will learn something

 

If you can program your brain to behave in way they enhances your learning it will help more.

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Or drink a large amount of water before you go to bed.

 

 

First off, your have your terminology mixed up. "Brain" is the term referring to the physical organ inside the skull, while "Mind" is actually an abstract term to describe human thought processes.

 

Secondly, speaking from experience, all that crap just doesn't work. There is such a thing as taking an analogy too far. Biologists, with their limited understanding of how computers work, have compared brains to computers, but that doesn't mean you can run a Microsoft PowerPoint Slide Show in your head*. That additionally does not apply to the mind, because while the brain is a physical object, the mind is an abstract en!@#$%^&*y that does not need to follow physical rules in order to function.

 

You can't program your mind. The only thing that comes close is brainwashing, which is essentially tricking the mind. Problem is its impossible to truly trick yourself unless you have major problems. Hypnosis is actually a short-term distraction, so its impossible to deal with a long-term behavior by hypnosis.

 

Of course, all of the above can 'work' due to the placebo effect.

 

*I will note that if you play the same video game all day you will probably dream in the setting of that game. That might qualify as 'running a software program'.

 

 

 

I don't know why music works, but going back to the analogy if you played music for a computer, it won't perform better, and actually if you made sure the computer actually listened to the music via microphoning the recording and saving it, it would use up processor space and make the computer perform worse. Thus I wouldn't consider playing music as "programming".

 

 

 

But to answer your question, you want the things I've tried:

 

Technique: Imagining my faults as garbage, and visualized the process of taking out the trash.

Outcome: I'd feel 'clean' for a few hours, but my faults would still kick in at next opportunity.

 

Technique: Using 'mind over matter' to command my body to speed up my metabolism for weight loss.

Outcome: Still overweight. Don't think my metabolism actually went anywhere.

Qualifier: Oddly this technique has worked when dealing with cold or warm temperatures.

 

Technique: Discouraging negative behavior by means of mildly painful negative stimuli.

Outcome: Found I was doing the behavior MORE just to experience the stimuli. Had to stop before becoming some freaky masochist.

 

Technique: Counting to ten, or any other technique with the intention to pretend I wasn't angry.

Outcome: I was still angry, it just got delayed and I'd go off on the wrong person.

 

Technique: Overcoming fear of public speaking by visualizing the audience with their clothes off.

Outcome: Thought processes quickly made run towards sexual fantasies. Made the speaking even more awkward.

 

 

Moral: Be smarter than me. Stop trying this "program your mind" crap now before you actually make the attempt.

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I generally think that bettering yourself by therapeutic methods is bull!@#$%^&* - therapeutic methods should only be used when you actually have serious problems, and the amount of research that goes into the side effects of any kind of hypnosis or temporary means to fixing psychological problems is far too limited.

 

Technique: Imagining my faults as garbage, and visualized the process of taking out the trash.

Outcome: I'd feel 'clean' for a few hours, but my faults would still kick in at next opportunity.

 

Technique: Using 'mind over matter' to command my body to speed up my metabolism for weight loss.

Outcome: Still overweight. Don't think my metabolism actually went anywhere.

Qualifier: Oddly this technique has worked when dealing with cold or warm temperatures.

 

Technique: Discouraging negative behavior by means of mildly painful negative stimuli.

Outcome: Found I was doing the behavior MORE just to experience the stimuli. Had to stop before becoming some freaky masochist.

 

Technique: Counting to ten, or any other technique with the intention to pretend I wasn't angry.

Outcome: I was still angry, it just got delayed and I'd go off on the wrong person.

 

Technique: Overcoming fear of public speaking by visualizing the audience with their clothes off.

Outcome: Thought processes quickly made run towards sexual fantasies. Made the speaking even more awkward.

 

It seems like you feel that you're not good enough. The best way, in my opinion of over coming this kind of thing is filling yourself with loads of confidence - and the way to do so is often an embarr!@#$%^&*ing and long course of making an !@#$%^&*hole out of yourself. I never really had problems with under confidence, but I have had friends who did have these kinds of problems. I made them read books on speed seduction, such as The Game by Neil Strauss - the methods are.. well.. You make an !@#$%^&*hole out of yourself on regular occasions, but the pro's of it are - that you're making an !@#$%^&*hole out of yourself to people you don't know - so if you don't think inside the box, it doesn't matter anyway.

 

As for metabolic rates and such - there is good evidence out there that metabolism isn't a real thing - but has been confused with other things - but I won't go into that right now - but I don't see how such a thing like Metabolism, which is determined by your eating habits in general, can be altered by any kind of psychological treatment. I'm well into nutrition, and the most common factor I've seen when I've read about metabolism, is that you should eat as soon as you wake up, then eat every three hours - not starve yourself so your body doesn't go into starvation mode - and if you want a good boost on your metabolic rate, you should take a strong coffee in the morning or, something with caffeine. Psychological treatment to cure overweight issues, that's just laziness.

 

Back onto the subject:

What I want to know from you guys is what do you do to help program your own mind? How do you remember to do stuff?

 

Train your brain. Like Distort said, if you set an alarm clock at an absurd time, for a very impractical reason, you're training your brain to remember why you set that alarm clock. Look at that game on the Nintendo DS - Brain Training or what ever.. It sets out loads of activities, like "What did you eat for dinner today" - and will make you cite that a week later. I'm not saying go out and buy a NDS - then buy Brain Training, because I find that the majority of that game is just stupid tricks that make you think you're getting better memory - when you're just learning new things. In my opinion, which is unprofessional - I'd say you should just stick with Distorts advice. And then come up with new alterations of his advice, soon your memory will be a lot better as you've effectively trained your memory to be better.

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Aileron, for me some of these methods have worked, you do sound very down I'd say your border line emo but then again I don't really know you blum.gif

I guess methods all depend on the person.

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