No_Remorse Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Aileron, your comments regarding Resol's zone are quite condescending. If you can do a better job, I suggest you do it and quit putting other people down to make yourself feel better.
»Lynx Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I'm not saying the base *is stolen - but I really doubt anything is going to come of this. Resol isn't the most popular player among most zones - mainly due to his advertising and, due to people making accusations of him stealing property from other zones - never-the-less, I don't see this topic going anywhere. Hyperspace = Populated zone, Armanda !@#$%^&*ail = Unpopulated zone - It's unlikely that the unpopulated zone is going to win this dispute especially when the owner already has a bad repuatation among so many of the players who would usually help him in this case. Also - complaining on a public forum probably wasn't the best approach to this situation. @ Resol: Why care? - Both bases look like they were made in under half an hour - just put something new together yourself - and then if anybody steals it at least you don't have to say "The map was orginally created by Lego lash and maybe even some work by knight hawk. The map was made for Armada !@#$%^&*ail only, not for other people, and it was Stray that stole the map." - You can say "The base was made by me - I have proof" - and then at least you have a case to defend. Right now - we can't tell the difference between two players - Lego Lash and Legas..
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Email to Legas, as many of you know, my long-time friend. "sup leg look at this base you made, (attached) did you make it for Armada !@#$%^&*ail?" Legas> i made it for EG, they used it once then i told dsz (resol) he could use it "cool, that zone is horrible..." Legas> yea LOL i played there for like 5 minutes and realized the settings sucked bawls" "rofl, that base would be sweet in hyperpsace, my buddy wants to edit it, u mind?" Legas> i don't give a !@#$%^&* LOL Legas made it, Stray clipped it, made it a lot smaller to fit into an HS sector, and redesigned some to add bomblines and such. I tiled it, and made it look fancy. Just to add to the closure of this issue, the base looks 100% better in Hyperpsace, is being used 100% more actively in Hyperpace, and lastly Hyperpace has permission from the original creator. End of story.
stray Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 well first of all after resol had lied to me gave me sysop powers in his zone he told me he was getting ssc in a week 2 months latter still nothing he has bein working on setting for past 3 months and there still not done...i figure id take the really nice base legas made and chop it up alil for people to enjoy the game alil more....and thanks for narkin me out newb now im banned from ssc again
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I left my Hyperspace staff name/password on his computer, we are friends IRL. He went in, gave his account a whole lot of money, and give a whole lot of money to the public. The database was rolled back to before he obtained the money, and he was net-banned for a year.
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 and thanks for narkin me out newb now im banned from ssc again There's no 'again' about it, you shouldn't have evaded your netban in the first place. well first of all after resol had lied to me gave me sysop powers in his zone he told me he was getting ssc in a week 2 months latter still nothing he has bein working on setting for past 3 months and there still not done... How is this relevant to the issue at hand?
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 His reply is the most relevant post on this thread considering this thread is about him. He just explained exactly what made him feel justified to optimize the base for hyperpace. dunno where you're coming form Ace =P
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 try logging in with the name stray, maybe it will give you the banned message before the invalid password message
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 His reply is the most relevant post on this thread considering this thread is about him. He just explained exactly what made him feel justified to optimize the base for hyperpace. dunno where you're coming form Ace =P Ah, allow me to clarify. I never said Stray's entire post was irrelevant - in fact, as you note, Stray's explanation for why he optimized Legas' base in the first place, is quite relevant to this thread.
Aileron Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Well, that doesn't end the side story as to why I was so condescending. I've been around a while and I have done dev work. I probably could make a zone like Armada !@#$%^&*ail if I wanted to, and based upon my past performance it would probably go nowhere just like Armada !@#$%^&*ail has. Usually a good zone takes a whole team of people to get itself started. I'd consider myelf about 10-20% of the manpower needed to create a zone from scratch and get it up and running. My advantage over the people who created AA is that I'm not delusional. For example, I considered the notion of creating a StarGate ground warfare zone. I could make the shipset, the map, and the settings, but realized I lacked a botmaker, gameplay style, time to moderate, and connections to the people who have servers. Additionally it had no main draw. Thus, I aborted the project then and there, saved my time, and spared the community from another lame ground-warfare zone. So, lesson learned is that instead of wasting my time and the community's on something fruitless, I accepted reality for what it is and put my time towards other usefull projects. I was being a condescending jerk because usually a delusional person needs a little insulting in order to wake up. That, and I juse felt like hurting their feelings.
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 banID? In reverse chronological order... #2412 access:2 by Rudy 2008-01-20 07:08 days:200 Thre4tanother evasion of netban #2384 vs Stray. Completely switched up his details but I got links acrossthe board. Latest netban in this series #2408. #2408 access:4 by Dr Brain 2008-01-12 14:06 days:200 CeleronStray evading ban #2384 and causing further disruption (cross-zone spamming) #2406 access:4 by Dr Brain 2008-01-12 13:59 days:200 RIOT!!Stray evading ban #2384 and causing further disruption (cross-zone spamming) #2393 access:4 by Dr Brain 2007-12-11 20:26 days:356 PostedStray evading netban. #2387 access:4 by Dr Brain 2007-12-03 15:10 days:365 StrayisGodStray trying to byp!@#$%^&* his old ban. #2384 access:4 by Dr Brain 2007-11-17 09:44 days:365 StrayGained staff access somehow and played havoc with Hyperspace, including granting money and disablingitem restrictions. We were forced to roll back the database to our last backup to correct the issue.
»freakmonger Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 so none of his bans were because of the "map" issue..then why even bring that up?
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 so none of his bans were because of the "map" issue..then why even bring that up? Stray was the one who brought it up. I agree that it's not relevant.
»Lynx Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 I think Resol brought it up earlier too - to add more influence to his argument.
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 freak, you also asked why he was banned
»freakmonger Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Yes I did because I thought he was banned for the "map" issue. The way he worded it, he made it sound like resol was the reason he got banned.
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Ahh yea he did. Anyways, the bottom line of this issue is that Legas gave me permission to give Stray permission to use his base in hyperpsace. I'll give Resol some slack here, because Legas also gave him permission to use it. So if anyone wants to investigate any further, they must come down on Legas as to why he's permitting multiple zones to use the same material. Well, that's entirely up to him, and is not uncommon. Currently, one single tileset I made, as far as I know, is being used in 9 subarenas of 4 zones. I've been asked permission twice The common 'multi-zonular' developer doesn't care where and when his material is being used, as long as it is being used. I never restricted anything I made, even when it was being used by a major zone. I'll admit, however, if a noob zone owner created a really nice map but lacked in all other departments, then a larger zone strong in those departments decides to steal the map, --thats just wrong. Fortunately, thats not so in this case. The entire issue could be put at my fault, and I would also take responsibility for it. It was Strays notion to use the base in hyperpsace, but I am the one who talked to my buddy Legas and got his permission. Anyway, I don't think any ssc admins will look into this any further, because they would just be har!@#$%^&*ing Legas about his decision to let hyperpace use the base. And nobody needs to be har!@#$%^&*ing Legas, he already quit mapping because of it, leave the dude alone
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Yes I did because I thought he was banned for the "map" issue. The way he worded it, he made it sound like resol was the reason he got banned. Heh, yea, all Resol did was help Rudy to put a stop to Stray's latest attempt at evading his netban.
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Obviously, netbans are not secure. Until a better method is utilized on Stray, he will keep getting in. Although, when he is in, he's not a problem. He is simply active in TW leagues. In his defense, if everyone had my login information, as he did, people would use it, inevitably causing problems. I'll be !@#$%^&*ed, looks like I'm the one to blame regarding both issues.
rootbear75 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 ah, yes... i remember those (working my way back on the bans...)
PoLiX Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Well, I find it funny that if your ip changes, the easiest way to do so, is delete and reinstall your adapter without a restart. Your macid doesn't get broadcasted to the zones, and you can go in freely. Kind of scary that something so simple, can get you around the only nature of bans we have.
aquarius Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 All a ban really does to those with the slightest intellect is prevent them from using their old names.
Aceflyer Posted January 22, 2008 Report Posted January 22, 2008 Netbans (or more precisely, BanG) are, and always have been, relatively weak security-wise. The ASSS ?kick is slightly stronger, but only works locally, of course, and is more limited.
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