Stolen Map

[Resol]

I am very very upset! A players thats is supposed to be net-banned by the name of Stray stole my base, changed it a little bit and gave it to SSCE Hyper Space, I tried to connect the staff in the zone to remove it and I had no luck. I don't think this is right! Please help me persuade them to change the map, not the whole thing I could care less, just my base from Armada !@#$%^&*ail that is the same as the base on the bottom right of their map called 'Legas-Stray'.

[JoWie]

So whenever someone submits a base to hyperspace, they should check every zone and every subarena in subspace to make sure the submitter did not copy it?

 

The submitter was/is not part of their staff.

Edited January 20, 2008 by JoWie

[X`terrania]

You come into Chaos League and you start advertising Armada !@#$%^&*ail, you honestly think you have the right to do this?

[Resol]

You come into Chaos League and you start advertising Armada !@#$%^&*ail, you honestly think you have the right to do this?

 

Advertising is breaking the rules, but I didn't steal from anyone. I honestly went into every single zone you can name, and told people to come to my zone.

 

I realize that its not the fault of Hyper Space, but I want them to change 'one base' not their whole map.

Thank You...

[Hoch]

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you think

the similarities are because I can see none. Also

by your own admission the Hyperspace map you

complain of was changed, albeit a little.

 

I understand that in the past Hyperspace has had

numerous problems with Stray. Therefore, I find

it difficult to believe that they would accept a map

from him.

 

Cheers,

 

-Hoch

[Resol]

Ok, well the entrance to the base is exactly the same, and so is the 90% of the base, its a clip from my base that was copied and pasted in to the hyper space map. And as well as this, I have learned that he is not only trying to give my map out to hyper space, but turn my zone into an event in TW. I have made sure his attempt in evading the ban has been discovered, and you can ask Rudy if you do not beleave me. If you think the base is not like mine then you need to take a close look and maybe open a map editor and you can see it is clearly mine.

[»freakmonger]

You really handle things in the worst possible way. You need to start sending me an e-mail before you decide to come running to the forums.

 

Until I get an email explaining in DETAIL of what is going on I'm not even going to get invovled.

[No_Remorse]

Hyperspace stole many hours from me. I want them back.

[»D1st0rt]

http://i28.tinypic.com/jrpgkk.jpg

Surely we can come to some sort of understanding, perhaps a modest sum of HS Bucks would satisfy your hostilities? I can make you warlord of all sector 3!

 

 

Seriously though, where's the proof that you had the base first? It's certainly not in this thread.

[Samapico]

Atleast screenshots... or... something?

[11___________]

OMFG hyperspace stole this one base of mine with colors and the corners that were 90 degrees. It also had some sides, an opening to go in, a flag room, AND a bombline. I know this perfectly describes my base.

[Sharpflame]

Screens (I made them all 50% size to reduce loading time) :

 

AA Entrance: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1640/aa1br4.png

HS Entrance: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4128/hs1qp9.png

 

AA ZigZag: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/445/aa2uu7.png

HS ZigZag: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8157/hs2hr7.png

 

AA Corner: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/910/aa3dh5.png

HS Corner: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1931/hs3gj9.png

 

AA Tunnel: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/4600/aa4fg6.png

HS Tunnel: http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/73/hs4mo0.png

 

DARE TO COMPARE.

 

Both bases look the same in some ways and different in others. The base in Armada !@#$%^&*ail has a lot more to it, it's huge. The one in Hyperspace is more open.

[»1587200]

I see the similarities. It looks like a simpler version of the base you claim is yours.

However, the question is which one was created first, and who actually created it?

I don't know you, but I do know Legas. I also know he creates a lot of maps/bases/etc

for a lot of zones, and I have a hard time believing he'd steal from Armada. Where

did you get the base? I'll be honest and say that the only thing with detail on your map

is the base in question. The rest of your map looks like something a novice mapper

would make.

 

I'm guessing the base was created by Legas, and pulled by Resol from an old map.

I guess someone will have to contact Legas and figure out what's up.

[»1587200]

I'm guessing Legas made the base and it was taken off an old map by Armada.

[Yavaris]

I think you kinda lost the right to complain about stealing after you tried to steal other zone's population with your advertizing.

[»D1st0rt]

Both bases look like variations on a theme to me, not stolen

[candygirl]

some tiles have been changed but you can tell they "were at one time" the same base.

But whos to say this base did not come from a map off subspace downloads?

Edited January 20, 2008 by candygirl

[rootbear75]

Stealing players from advertising is completely different then stealing property MADE by someone.

[Resol]

The map was orginally created by Lego lash and maybe even some work by knight hawk. The map was made for Armada !@#$%^&*ail only, not for other people, and it was Stray that stole the map.

[2pac]

who cares its not like your zones getting any popualtion, quit whining its a god !@#$%^&* airplane game.

[Aileron]

and it was Stray that stole the map.

 

So now Stray stole the whole map? Odd, at the beginning of this topic he had only stolen one base.

 

And to that allegation...NO! They have some sections which look vaguely similar, but that's it. Still, that doesn't come close to "stealing", and you'd have a hard case for "inspired by".

 

I'd assume that Hyperspace is run by honest enough people, but supposing that they were not, why would they want to steal from your zone? They would want to steal from a zone which is more successful than they are, or atleast doesn't flat out suck. Jeez, I'd bet the population spike resulting from curious forum goers entering your zone just to compare the maps cons!@#$%^&*utes the largest growth you've had in months.

 

Besides, I've made better bases than that myself...and my map-making sucks.

 

As for why Hyperspace is ssb: Its a decent zone. As for why Armada !@#$%^&*ail isn't: it sucks.

 

You got upset that someone tried to make it a Trench Wars event? Trust me - if Trench Wars ever wanted to make AA into an event you should be honored. Ofcourse, that's not happening, because the Trench Wars staff wouldn't want to waste the server space on it. They actually have pretty high standards.

 

 

Some advice for your zone:

 

-Quit with the whole: "You have to play for a while before we deem you worthy to use all the ships" crap. Subspace is a game of skill, not seniority. If we pretended your zone had any vets, if those vets could get pwned by anyone who shows up, they would need to get better, not be handed a settings advantage.

 

-Your gameplay is split: Are your players supposed to be playing turf in the east and west or playing in the south? I've seen zones survive this, but it doesn't help.

 

-More on the last point: NEVER make a turf map with more than one base. Doing so diverts the gameplay. In a team match, when a team takes the enemy base their reward is to lose their own because its impossible to secure both bases from an enemy team of equal size. Overall, you don't want to reward players for flying to remote locations where nobody is. Now, if your turf is secondary to powerballing you can get away with it, but its still not a good thing.

 

-Your south base (The one that was 'stolen') is way too big. If a miracle happened and you got a decent pop, the defenders could hold the attackers off for literally hours in that thing. The map shouldn't be the thing which requires skill from the offense to overcome. The defending players should be the ones who make it difficult for the offense.

 

That ofcourse would be !@#$%^&*uming both sides had a reason to get in the thing in the first place, which they don't. You have powerballing and turf east-west. Why do you have a large flagging base if your settings don't have flagging?

 

-Duel boxes? What, are you too lazy to make a seperate duel arena?

 

 

Overall, don't be arrogant. No one is going to steal your worthless map any time soon. If anything, I'm half tempted to look through some SWR and 17th Parallel archives to see if you didn't steal your powerball bases from them. I mean, by your "if it vaguely resembles something of ours, it must be stealing" standards, Armada !@#$%^&*ail definitely stole its map from SWR, but we're talking the standards of the rest of the known universe.

[PoLiX]

Looking at both the bases, the layout highly reminds me of an old base in EG. Funny enough, where Legas and his brother AnacondA have designed many maps and bases. There is only so many layout ideas for bases that work, so you just have to keep modifying them slightly.

[Resol]

I guess it doesn't matter. I have made my compliant and thats that. Nothing is going to get done about and thats fine.

[»1587200]

The map was orginally created by Lego lash and maybe even some work by knight hawk. The map was made for Armada !@#$%^&*ail only, not for other people, and it was Stray that stole the map.

Ever think that "Lego lash" could be Legas, and he used his own base that he made?

 

 

Looking at both the bases, the layout highly reminds me of an old base in EG.

The infamous O18 base from about 3-4 years ago which had the bombline of death at the entrance which people would wall kill all day?

[Rudemeister]

I find it rather pathetic that some zones find it offensive that people would dare advertise for other zones. As if players didn't have sensibility to make up their own minds about where to play. That is disregarding the fact that it's all the same game.

 

Come to Trench! You can advertise whatever zone you like so long as you don't spam! Huzzah!