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I'm looking into connecting my pc to my new hdtv. I've done some research and found the best way to do this is by connnecting HDMI (tv) to a DVI slot (pc). I was wondering if anyone could give some basic info on their experiences with this or if they just know about it. Also, i'm having trouble finding out if my video card supports DVI so if someone could direct me in how to find that out. Thank You.
T-Man Newbie

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To see if your video card has dvi just look at it. http://www.ngohq.com/images/articles/7800gtx/Pictures/Dual%20DVI.JPG

 

Does it have that?

LtNirvana Newbie

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Video cards that "support DVI" have DVI ports on them...

 

Look at the back of your PC where your video card is, it will have 1 or 2 outputs. VGA aka D-sub will be a blue port with 9 pins, 5 on top 4 on bottom. DVI will be a white port with alot of pinholes in 3 rows. If you dont have the white port for video, you're SOL.

 

If you need a new video card, they make alot with HD tv tuners built in and HDMI ports on em, and most new video cards are strictly DVI.

 

EDIT: !@#$%^&* you beat me lol.

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Yavaris Newbie

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HDMI is just DVI + sound, so if you can get your hands on some adapters, you should be able to work even with a d-sub port (the blue port with about 9 pinholes in it). I don't think you will lose much quality there, maybe none at all (depending on the resolution your tv can handle). Maybe you should try a HDMI->DVI adapter with a DVI->D-sub adapter on it. Might save you some money. Try finding something about it on the internet first though, because I'm not sure if it works (and if quality is ok).
LtNirvana Newbie

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mis-information? The only mis-information posted above was i accidently wrote the pinouts of a serial port instead of a dsub but no big deal, the other guy posted pictures blum.gif

 

Don't be a weiner cuz you posted last, I work in IT I know what I'm talking about, anyone can post wiki links :/

LtNirvana Newbie

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Whats your budget. Give me a number and I can look while I'm bored at work lol.

 

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First I wouldnt suggest buying it from bestbuy or normal retail. They overprice PC components. Use newegg.com and it will just be shipped to you within 3 days for next to nothing.

 

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Make sure your PC has a PCIe x16 slot. If your PC is older you may not have it, maybe just PCI. Also you may have an AGP slot.

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Admiral Kirk Newbie

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Hooking HDMI up to a d-sub you'll just be in standard VGA you'll lose all the quality and it will be far from HD. I think his whole point was he wanted it in HD.

 

That ^ is misinformation. A standard d-subminiture port can pump out all the way up to QXGA format, which is WELL above what a 1080P tv can display (1920 x 1080 WUXGA). It just does so in an analog form, which depending on the cabling, sending and recieving devices may or may not look just as good as its digital counterpart. DVI is a mixed system, using both digital and analog signals. HDMI is purely digital AND encrypted.

 

As long as you use high grade analog cables, the analog signal will look more or less the same as the digital one. And as im sure everyone should know by now, you can use any cheep !@#$%^&* digital cable, as long as its good enough to carry the signal in a recognizable form by the reciever it makes no differnce in the quality of the picture otherwise.

 

Now, as to what was stated above, you CANNOT take a VGA to DVI, plug it into a DVI to HDMI and have it work. As I said above, DVI is a duel standard, and a VGA to DVI adapter relies on this by takeing the analog signal and piping it to an analog version of DVI (with no digital). The DVI to HDMI adapters rely on the digital side of DVI and pipe that strait down the HDMI cable. Since the video side of HDMI is identical to the digital side of DVI. (Or at least it WAS until they came out with some newer standards, but with backwards compatability the trick can still be done).

 

http://www.startech.com/Product/ItemDetail...D2HDMI&c=US

 

That is an ADC, the oposite of a DAC. It takes an analog signal and converts it to a digital one. Its basicly a realtime MPEG encoder. Its the only way to take a VGA signal strait to HDMI. And given its price, I think you would be better off getting a video card that supplys you with a DVI connector so you can use a simple plug converter to HDMI.

 

That, I think, should clear up all the misconceptions here.

 

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I almost forgot, a video card.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814143112

 

I would recomend that one, you cant go wrong with BFG and thier lifetime warrentys. Granted, its not an 8800GT, but the 8600GT still isnt bad. Its DirectX 10 compliant, and HDCP compliant (its supports passthrough of encrypted video streams, ala Blu-Ray and HD-DVD). If youve got the cash, go for an 8800GT 512mb instead, or if your realy made of dough, go strait for the 8800 GTX, or just wait until next year and thier 9xxx parts come out ^^. But the above is a very decent budget card imo.

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Ok thank you admiral for that long post.

 

Now, i've sord of changed my mind. Given i don't have some super duper computer anyways, i don't really think i need a hd monitor. I don't play video games anyways. Therefore I have decided to go for the RGB (VGA) Cable connector.

 

I found this at office depot.

 

Thank you!

rootbear75 Newbie

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Ok thank you admiral for that long post.

 

Now, i've sord of changed my mind. Given i don't have some super duper computer anyways, i don't really think i need a hd monitor. I don't play video games anyways. Therefore I have decided to go for the RGB (VGA) Cable connector.

 

I found this at office depot.

 

Thank you!

that looks like a standard monitor cable :/

 

and by RGB, do you mean Component cables?

tcsoccerman Newbie

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I mean that i'm going to use a "standard monitor cable" and connect it to a special port in my tv. My current monitor cable can't disconnect from my monitor, just from my computer so i need to get a new one.
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Well i'm typing this looking at my tv, it worked fine. Yeh, it's only in 1024x768 but the screen is big enough i still see plenty of space, even more than my old ctr monitor with a bigger reselution. Thanks for the tips, i'm gload i got it working.

 

I'm gonna have to take a picture of the refelection of the taskbar on the lip of my screen. It's awesome.

rootbear75 Newbie

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Well i'm typing this looking at my tv, it worked fine. Yeh, it's only in 1024x768 but the screen is big enough i still see plenty of space, even more than my old ctr monitor with a bigger reselution. Thanks for the tips, i'm gload i got it working.

 

I'm gonna have to take a picture of the refelection of the taskbar on the lip of my screen. It's awesome.

if its an LCD screen you should be able to go up to 1360 x 768 with no problem as that is usually the native settings for the LCD

Admiral Kirk Newbie

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Actualy, if its any of the newer 1080P displays, it should hit all the way up to 1920 x 1080, now weather or not your video card can do that is another question. You may also need to change your display type for this to work, Plug and Play Monitor usualy does the trick.
tcsoccerman Newbie

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It's currently in plug and play.

 

Yes your right, the tv handbook says the native mode is 1366 x 768. Let's see what i can do. Hmm...I don't think my graphic card even supports that reselution because i go into Desktop->Properties and 1024x768 is the highest...Any other way to find out?

rootbear75 Newbie

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It's currently in plug and play.

 

Yes your right, the tv handbook says the native mode is 1366 x 768. Let's see what i can do. Hmm...I don't think my graphic card even supports that reselution because i go into Desktop->Properties and 1024x768 is the highest...Any other way to find out?

even if 1024x768 is the max resolution, you should still lower it to get that "widescreen" look.

also, if ur max is in fact 1024x768, i would get a new card anyways (seems low imo)

Admiral Kirk Newbie

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Im with rootbear on this one, on both points. If your card cant hit past 1024x768 either your video driver is messed up, your computers monitor plug and play detection is messed up, or your video card is from like, 1990....

 

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/do!...n.mspx?mfr=true

 

Try hitting that link and at the bottom follow the procedure for displaying all resolutions. Just be remember to use the display propertys to change your resolution so you trigger that 15 second dialog. Just incase you hit something outside of the TVs display abilitys. Sucks to have to boot into safe mode when your display mode is perminetly beyond what any of your monitors can show blum.gif

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