Earthshero Posted November 16, 2003 Report Posted November 16, 2003 Ok here it is I will code bots and/or other tools for any zone that needs itfor FREEYes, no cost what so everReply back with what you need
Earthshero Posted November 16, 2003 Author Report Posted November 16, 2003 no, if you need to contact mePM me, or i will give you my ICQ
ExplodyThingy Posted November 16, 2003 Report Posted November 16, 2003 Can you take some of my workload?
50% Packetloss Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 Where is some Mervbot example code so that zone owners can determine if you got skillz. Never seen anyone advertise bot making, Usually when Im done with a project, someone just contacts me with the next thing.
Earthshero Posted November 17, 2003 Author Report Posted November 17, 2003 I am not a big fan of open sourceAnd i thought it would be nice for the new zone owners to know where to go
50% Packetloss Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 Not Open Source == Paranoid We are talking about mervbot, no one is going to haxor your dll. Mervbot itself is open source and it doesnt have some huge encryption schemes to protect admin passwords. Having open source allows future coders to take your source and change it for future enhancements in the game. Anything that you or anyone codes is not going to be so genious that it has to be kept secret. Plus how are zone owners going to know that you didnt program some back door into your plug-in? They cant read C++ and why should they trust you?Maybe its just me but pleading to create a bot for someone falls under my same category for pleading to be staff of some zone you have never played in.Example- http://www.ssforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=1573 Convince me!
Dr Brain Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 I would think most zone sysops would like the bot to be closed source, so no one else has access to that type of bot.
50% Packetloss Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 I have yet to see a bot that is uncloneable. Meaning, I could go in the zone and see your bot, then write one that did the some actions. So having closed source is useless.Mervbot is a open source project and same should be it's plugins. There are plenty of close source bots out there, go write code for them.
Dr Brain Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 Ok, clone my bot. SSCI Hyperspace. Its not a bot anymore, but It was a few days ago. Every thing it does can still be done by a bot. If I were to release the source to it, you can bet there would be three clones of my zone within five miniutes.
Guest leep! Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 he just offered his services, im sure there are lots of startup zones that would be interested... somebody best calm themselves. i wouldn't want my zones bot to be open sourced either..
DeadlySoldier!! Posted November 17, 2003 Report Posted November 17, 2003 dude just write an example from scratch thats all he asked for, no big deal.. ill give out my src if anyone wants my half finished football bot customized for my zone so it wont do anything much for u! woot! lol
50% Packetloss Posted November 18, 2003 Report Posted November 18, 2003 Ok, clone my bot. SSCI Hyperspace. Its not a bot anymore, but It was a few days ago. Every thing it does can still be done by a bot. If I were to release the source to it, you can bet there would be three clones of my zone within five miniutes. I didnt mean to offend you brain, that bot in Hyperspace is very nice.I use to get on 2 comps and kill myself for EZ$. But once a lot of people where in there, the bot lagged like a -*BAD WORD*-. The new ASSS module running the game takes away something that was fun in the zone. Plus there are no directions for how to use it.Close source for your zone makes sence to me, but you know how to program and the people that Earthshero is advertising to do not. Just saying that it is risky to take him up on the offer, I would have someone double check the source code for you before you put the bot in your zone.
Smong Posted November 19, 2003 Report Posted November 19, 2003 They didn't say they would even be using mervbot. The person with the initial idea should get to decide how the finished product and source code gets distributed. Can you make a bot that stores messages like ?message (this can be a temporary fix for the zones without billing)? What about a CTF flag game for ASSS? How about a mapeditor that can handle lvz placement, different bit depth tile sets, a built in tile editor, a realtime doormode simulator and an FPS predicter?
50% Packetloss Posted November 20, 2003 Report Posted November 20, 2003 Merv should work just fine in ASSS, never tested it in there though. Not very many people are creating map editors right now, but those things would be possable. FPS is different for everyone though. A merv bot that stored !message would be easy to make. It could store everything in a file. But this would make messaging unsecure, for the sysop/bot-op of the zone would be able to read people's messages.
Dr Brain Posted November 20, 2003 Report Posted November 20, 2003 Merv should work just fine in ASSS, never tested it in there though.Don't be too sure. I don't use merv, but the core I do use does NOT work on ASSS without heavy modifications, and I'm not talking about *arena to *a.
Smong Posted November 20, 2003 Report Posted November 20, 2003 When I say "for ASSS" I mean as an ASSS module, not a patched mervbot plugin.
madhaha Posted November 21, 2003 Report Posted November 21, 2003 What is wrong with bot cloning? The end effect is different as the cir-*BAD WORD*-stances (read as: map and settings) are different. Is there any reason for bot code secrecy other than jealousy and security (if you're worried someone spots a bug they can exploit).
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