G0rilla Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 Our mods have been quite unfair i asked if one of the mods could host a pub day (not saying who ) and i just a got a plain reply NO nothing about why not just a NO :/ i have noticed the mods have been unfair lately, mabey something has happened between the mods and they taking it out on the players but i hope it's soughted out. hehe i dont like dissing mods and players but if im forced to (Supreme authority) i will. I did wander why gb was banned
desert op Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) Same as G0rillaI must believe that masaru is the best JrMod Me and him have had our arguments but i still think he is the bestThen it must be Rare he is a good JrMod I dont really talk to him so i cant say much about him But i have heard some bad comments about himnot saying who by but yes.Now SharpFlame he can be a good JrMod at times but theres always incident-Hes bad at hosting sorry to say-he degrants too much when theres no need for itand so on.......Boldot, i have nothing to say about him, i havent seen he on alot but im sure he has his reasonsso no complaint about him. Edited November 11, 2007 by desert op
cdrom Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 i dont think this applies to boldot and masa; they have been fair to all, its a pity they're not on as often as some of the others.
Dr Brain Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 Our mods have been quite unfair i asked if one of the mods could host a pub day (not saying who ) and i just a got a plain reply NO nothing about why not just a NO :/ i have noticed the mods have been unfair lately, mabey something has happened between the mods and they taking it out on the players but i hope it's soughted out. Know how much of my game time goes to answering player questions? I'd say a good 20% of it, actually. I'm sure it's worse for the mods. If they took the time to explain things that aren't relevant, they'd never get anything done. Moderators aren't there to be your friends or to host events. hehe i dont like dissing mods and players but if im forced to (Supreme authority) i will. I did wander why gb was banned Because he was trying to twist rules into banning someone else.
linger Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 i guess some of the points that you have made brain were some valad points but for the record what were you refering to with the jc thing no one understands we have all fully reconized that no action will be taken and this is why we have made this post alot of people arnt complaining about the mods they are complaining about the severity the mods take without warning not the actual punishment. next time when you post make some sence and pls pls tell us some reasons or a way we could get something to be done about the things that have happened
cdb Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 Sharp and Rare have been pretty shady lately. Or always. I dont know but especially lately. And what gets me, is that players report mods and go online to say stuff and give proof about these mods abusing time after time and what happens? Nothing. Many times I will ask a mod for his !@#$%^&*istance and I'll either get ignored or a smart!@#$%^&* answer. Some of the current mods would rather sound cool insulting people than trying to help them and that shouldn't be the prerogative of the mods. They continue to ruin the simple fun of Hyperspace. Its completely obvious that young children do not have the mentality to help run a zone or command any position of power. Especially since this zone sees its share of youngins. When young players and a young mod start bickering, they tend to regress and nothing good comes from it. So.. are you starting to get a good picture of the situation?
Dr Brain Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 The tragedy of Julius Caesar. Specifically the part where Mark Antony speaks at Caesar's funeral. Here, under leave of Brutus and the rest--For Brutus is an honourable man;So are they all, all honourable men--Come I to speak in Caesar's funeral. If you have a problem with a moderator, bringing it up in public is not a way to resolve it. It's tactless, unhelpful, and always makes the problem harder to solve.
linger Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) THEN HOW DO WE GET SOEMTHING DONE quote: it is not my dog who doesnt understand me It is i who doesnt understand my dog happy?? btw it seems to have brought alot of attention to the subject so i see that it is tacfull and a good way to get some opinions heard it is sad that the voice of the people you are trying to make happy is unheard when spoken in full Edited November 11, 2007 by linger
got bounty? Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) And what gets me, is that players report mods and go online to say stuff and give proof about these mods abusing time after time and as NeoGolem has stated, "what happens? Nothing." This is why problems with moderators can no longer be brought private, but must be made public to force administration into action instead of sweeping the problem under the carpet. And you know what, Doc is right. I sat in the transwarp, depeleted my energy and waited to be killed. I was fuming mad at the moment, so my action was rash. I suppose every other player would to, if there was a ~500 bounty turret in center wiping out every player and everyone on the turret getting rich. Everytime you try to damage it, it warps away. I'm positive many other players saw it too. Whenever the energy got below 1K, Aquarius and he lanc that has TW p!@#$%^&* simply warps away. Then again, who am I to speak to you. Edited November 11, 2007 by got bounty?
»D1st0rt Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 Most of the time I spend in the zone is devoted to listening to, investigating, and following up on complaints. They usually end up being either trivial or a player trying to weasel their way around the rules (usually involving copious use of the word "but"). What is actually shady is that people don't really have a lot to say in game but all of a sudden when they're on the forums it seems everyone comes out of the woodwork. If what you're trying to say requires public recruitment (especially when it's overly done) of other players to increase its perceived legitimacy, chances are we're just going to ignore it. Enough people bring direct claims that at least I'm personally not going to waste my time on sensationalist soapboxing. PS. you guys are far from angels, and the fact that you can play without constant disruption means the mods are doing their jobs
Dr Brain Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 And what gets me, is that players report mods and go online to say stuff and give proof about these mods abusing time after time and as NeoGolem has stated, "what happens? Nothing." This is why problems with moderators can no longer be brought private, but must be made public to force administration into action instead of sweeping the problem under the carpet. Then why is it that D1st0rt and I have never heard any complaints about Sharpflame before this? Sorry, that argument doesn't hold water. If anyone has a problem with staffers, then bring it first to D1, and then to me. Since no one has done that, nothing can be done.
tcsoccer and neptune Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 the last pub day, when the jp went up to 1mil, one of the mods kept on doing random prizing like 4 thors, and then thorstorms would come to the base and wipe out a bunch of the defending team. lots of us lost bounty and it gets annoying when theres prizes that favor the attackers every four seconds. At one time someone prized us like 4 decoys and 5 thors, and I don't get the point. its suppose to be a pub day, not a prize day!
*rc 1223* Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 (edited) he did prize random prizes and i lost my bty$$$$$ Edited November 11, 2007 by *rc 1223*
linger Posted November 11, 2007 Report Posted November 11, 2007 prized shields as well and went through a whole base without any energy lost then person could get flags rush through another half the base before dieing again
got bounty? Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) And what gets me, is that players report mods and go online to say stuff and give proof about these mods abusing time after time and as NeoGolem has stated, "what happens? Nothing." This is why problems with moderators can no longer be brought private, but must be made public to force administration into action instead of sweeping the problem under the carpet. Then why is it that D1st0rt and I have never heard any complaints about Sharpflame before this? Sorry, that argument doesn't hold water. If anyone has a problem with staffers, then bring it first to D1, and then to me. Since no one has done that, nothing can be done. I have asked of Sharpflame to stop his childish behavior long ago. I tell him time and time again. I have talked to Masaru when I was angry that Sharpflame changed the gun speed of his terrier to kill me while I was reccing. I remember Bloodvenom telling Rareitanium about Sharpflame's lag exploit. I remember Aoi Sakuraba complaining to mods about this lag exploit as well. Sorry, that rebutal doesn't hold much water either. We have brought these matters up in private, but things usually don't get done. I'm sure many players find it intimidating to talk to figures of such high authority, especially considering the high administration is rarely on and when they do, there is something more important on thier minds. At this point, where most of the posts have been deleted by administration, I would like to invite everyone to notice the !@#$%^&*le of this thread. I do not understand why it was censored so strictly. Edited November 12, 2007 by got bounty?
Aceflyer Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 I have asked of Sharpflame to stop his childish behavior long ago. I tell him time and time again. I have talked to Masaru when I was angry that Sharpflame changed the gun speed of his terrier to kill me while I was reccing. I remember Bloodvenom telling Rareitanium about Sharpflame's lag exploit. I remember Aoi Sakuraba complaining to mods about this lag exploit as well. Sorry, that rebutal doesn't hold much water either. We have brought these matters up in private, but things usually don't get done. Um... If anyone has a problem with staffers, then bring it first to D1, and then to me. Since no one has done that, nothing can be done. got bounty? and any others with grievances to report should have brought it up with D1 in private, and then with Dr Brain in private. None of you did that before this (public) thread was started. I'm sure many players find it intimidating to talk to figures of such high authority, especially considering the high administration is rarely on and when they do, there is something more important on thier minds. Intimidating? In an friendly online game zone like SSCE Hyperspace? It's not like players are being asked to talk to the Secretary-General of the United Nations in person.
linger Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 i have seen all and i have heard all let me telepathicaly enter brains mind and controll his will to destroy sharp and rare because it will not be done any other way D1st0rt is never on i see brain on more than i see him i think i have seen him on once in my entire time playing hs so dont mention someone who doesnt play
Dr Brain Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Talking to a mod about another mod will not resolve a situation. Masaru doesn't have the authority to solve a moderator dispute. Both D1's and my emails are listed in the news file. I check for ?messages every time I log in. There are plenty of ways to get in contact with us.
aquarius Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 What is this thread about? Sharpflame 'abusing' and me doing the tw turret thing? I'm a man with dignity, so I will explain myself.It was fun. I turreted a whole pub freq and made some noobs money. The minute Dr Brain come on I said "hey we have to nerf this ?tw with turret thing". And that's it.. I made a few more tw turret trips today because I know it's being nerfed anyday now and I'll never be able to do it again. It was fun. As for Sharpy, well he'll have to explian himself the last pub day, when the jp went up to 1mil, one of the mods kept on doing random prizing like 4 thors, and then thorstorms would come to the base and wipe out a bunch of the defending team. lots of us lost bounty and it gets annoying when theres prizes that favor the attackers every four seconds. At one time someone prized us like 4 decoys and 5 thors, and I don't get the point. its suppose to be a pub day, not a prize day! Oh god.. Were you even paying attention to that game? One freq had the overwhelming advantage, in any base. The team was just better, had more skilled players while the other team had noobs. Mods were prizing the attackers SHIELDS, that's about 30 seconds of invincibility and they STILL couldn't reach the flagroom. We were just having fun. It's a known fact to HS veterans that the zone is unbalanced when theres too many people. I'm sure Dr Brain knows this too as he said it to me before. ("more population is not my goal, the zone is not stable enough") So we had 25vs25 in one of SF's crampt bases... Attacking team was being owned at entrance for about an hour so.. why not a thor storm? Why not some super? Shields? STILL NOT GETTING IN? More thorstorms, lets have fun, things are unbalanced, lets just have fun. Lots of people had fun. It would have been much more abusive allowing the defending team to rape the attacking team for a few hours. Not to mention a spoiled late afternoon. MGS, what is the real issue? From what I see, staff abuse is non-existant.
desert op Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 Aquarius I am sure this topic isn't targeted at you in anyway.
Rareitanium Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 haha Thanks for the laugh guys. I needed one before I went to work.
rootbear75 Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) i just felt like i had to say something... theres so much !@#$%^&* by the players its not even funny. (and anything thats posted by hamm usually is soooo.....)First and LAST word: THE STAFF RUN THE ZONE! THE ONLY THING YOU CAN DO IS NOT PLAY Our mods have been quite unfair i asked if one of the mods could host a pub day (not saying who ) and i just a got a plain reply NO nothing about why not just a NO :/ i have noticed the mods have been unfair lately, mabey something has happened between the mods and they taking it out on the players but i hope it's soughted out. hehe i dont like dissing mods and players but if im forced to (Supreme authority) i will. I did wander why gb was banned Here's your reason: You aren't staff. Thats WHY you can't host a "pub day"and about the mods having problems: 4 wordsha.... ha ha hai highly doubt that the mods would have something so serious to come between them to affect the pub in a negative way And what gets me, is that players report mods and go online to say stuff and give proof about these mods abusing time after time and as NeoGolem has stated, "what happens? Nothing." This is why problems with moderators can no longer be brought private, but must be made public to force administration into action instead of sweeping the problem under the carpet.ahem, might i remind you that Dr Brain, the rest of the sysops, smods, mods, and jrmods, take time out of their day to moderate the zone. So what if they have a "little" fun? the last pub day, when the jp went up to 1mil, one of the mods kept on doing random prizing like 4 thors, and then thorstorms would come to the base and wipe out a bunch of the defending team. lots of us lost bounty and it gets annoying when theres prizes that favor the attackers every four seconds. At one time someone prized us like 4 decoys and 5 thors, and I don't get the point. its suppose to be a pub day, not a prize day!he did prize random prizes and i lost my bty$$$$$awww. you want some cheese with your whine? afk BTW: i suspect i have the HS staff 95% behind my explanations Edited November 12, 2007 by rootbear75
aquarius Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 ahem, might i remind you that Dr Brain, the rest of the sysops, smods, mods, and jrmods, take time out of their day to moderate the zone. So what if they have a "little" fun? I like this guy.
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