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[JDS]

haha looks like they are starting to 'crack' down on internet crime.. first OInk, and now this dudes website.. seriously are they just bored

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Too many people to crack down on it. Infact everyone has done some sort of crime on the net. Whether it's purchasing something like this or even downloading songs.

[Samapico]

Thing is, downloading songs isn't "illegal" everywhere. Even though it is copyrighted material, it was considered the same as using a photocopier at the library to scan pages of copyrighted books. That was a few years ago in Canada, there were probably other cases since then though.

What was Oink anyway?

[Emit]

He's not the only person in Hong Kong that does this, unlucky person. Why is this under british authority? Hong Kong is china now o.o

[JDS]

what was oink

 

 

the most prestige music downloading torrent site on the internet: invite only and ratio requirement or ban (that means seeding what you download)

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Seriously, companies need to quit trying to shut these people down, and embrace their ideas and designs. It's not going away, no matter how many people you throw in jail.

[rootbear75]

He's not the only person in Hong Kong that does this, unlucky person. Why is this under british authority? Hong Kong is china now o.o

as far as i know, hong kong, while it might be in china, is still under british rule

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I suppose it could also be because he's distributing them to people in England?

[masscarnage]

umm root i believe imperialism has been for the most part completely phased out, hong kong is only part of china. He went to hong kong to purchase the materials and sold them out of england or w/e he lives.

[rootbear75]

umm root i believe imperialism has been for the most part completely phased out, hong kong is only part of china. He went to hong kong to purchase the materials and sold them out of england or w/e he lives.

i said as far as i know... im not 100% sure the exact situation

[Aileron]

Anyone who stands for piracy needs to watch "the Untouchables" sometime, or take out a history textbook and look up the roaring 20s. Yes, sometimes laws are written for bad reasons in an overzealous attempt to tell people what to do, but nevertheless it is still arrogant to feel that because one thinks the law is wrong, that one feels he has a right to violate the law freely.

 

History has shown that if we allow "harmless" criminals to operate, they eventually start to work together, and after that they start to get violent. They begin to fight over territory and customers. You people see a way to get cheap music and video games; I see the formation of an internet mafia.

 

They can easily "crack down" on internet piracy. There is an old naval saying on dealing with the ship-sailing variety of pirates: "The best way to defeat pirates is not by sea, but by land." The ship sailing pirates, like any operation, needed an infrastructure. They needed ports to buy supplies and repair their ships. They needed an intelligence network to find out where merchant traffic was going. They needed a market at which to sell their goods, and that market in turn needed customers. All of those things by their nature existed on land, in a world where ship-sailing pirates were not very adept at. Piracy pretty much stopped as soon as all the ports wouldn't harbor them.

 

Internet piracy can be stopped the same way, and this case is an example. The guy needed chips from a place that can manufacture them, shipping from Hong Kong to England, a location at which to store the chips, and a method to ship the chips to the customer - none of those things can be done over the internet. There needs to be real infrastructure in place.

 

As for the downloading of songs, it is more difficult but there are still things in reality. There are servers which in turn need communication lines with other servers, and there are ISPs which connect those servers to the consumer. They could easily stop illegal downloading with the proper controls on routers and ISPs. It wouldn't be usefull for catching the perpetrators, but it would seperate them from their customers.

 

As for those who hate the music industry, please reconsider your decision to download illegal songs. There are likely legal alternatives to the big record labels, and if they had a large customer base they could either put the big companies out of business or force them to make a better product. However, that isn't going to happen if those legal alternatives can't turn a profit because all of the customers they should have are downloading pirated material.

[masscarnage]

man i will never pay for music as there are thousands of legit sites to download them from it doesnt matter if its illegal or not because if i couldnt download them i still would never pay for my music id just get a friend who did to burn me a copy.

 

I dont think that governments will ever be able to stop illegal downloading unless they become socialists and start censoring out websites which would be a violation of our rights.

 

On my campus we use dc++ and a private lan server to download anything from A-Z literally any TV shows any movies and any music which we all love since we download at megabytes/sec

[Wild Luck]

if they dont want pirated cds and dvds then they should not sell CD and DVD recorders.

 

I remember the first time i saw a recorder, i was like this is the most pirate thing ever made, this is underground, but then i found out it as 100% legal and was a brand name.

 

Its like selling people a car wich you cant drive cause its illegal to drive it!

[Aileron]

Hmmm...there's an example of the point I'm trying to make, because the government has set standards for automobiles which are enforced without having to resort to socialism. The government doesn't regulate cars; they regulate roads. If indeed they regulated cars by looking into people's garages, they could never get it done, but they don't that way - they have police patrol the roads looking for people without inspection stickers. Auto manufacturers comply with what is street legal because if they didn't the car could not be driven on a road and few customers would have need of it.

 

The internet works very much like the interstate system. Yes, it is as impossible to regulate the populace's connections to their ISP as it would be to regulate their driveways. However, what is possible is to regulate the ISPs and routers themselves. For instance, they could fine AOL for every illegal item they catch going through one of their servers.

[masscarnage]

then you can easily change the file name and no one would be the wiser no? theres many ways around simple regulations, especially at my uni were we just use a LAN to get our files.

[Aileron]

Yes and no. Yes, under present cir!@#$%^&*stances that's all you need, but it wouldn't be true if they developed the proper technology. All they would need is a program that would scan the contents of random files as they p!@#$%^&* through the major routers. However, with current technology that would be impossible without slowing the internet down to a crawl. Still, all it would take is somebody to come up with some clever idea, so really the only reason that works is because nobody set about trying to make it not work.

[Samapico]

umm root i believe imperialism has been for the most part completely phased out, hong kong is only part of china. He went to hong kong to purchase the materials and sold them out of england or w/e he lives.

i said as far as i know... im not 100% sure the exact situation

 

Hong Kong was a crown colony of the United Kingdom from 1842 until the transfer of its sovereignty to the People's Republic of China in 1997.

[JDS]

the internet is still new.. its only a matter of time before they put restrictions on it, governt' ASSS

[Aileron]

Well, it's a tough call. I mean from the other perspective, the people who are making the product deserve to make money too. Put yourself in the position of one of the game coders working for Microsoft Xbox products.

 

You've worked your !@#$%^&* off getting through college, a feat that wasn't easy and which you are proud of. Financially, you have college loans, an appartment, and car payments. You work forty hours a week in an office staring at a computer screen, putting up with your boss and co-workers.

 

Now, would you want to get paid for your work, or would you rather write computer code for free and take a second job at McDonalds to pay your bills? People tend to want the wage they deserve. Ofcourse, the companies who make the products are out for profit themselves, so they won't hire the programmer in the first place if there is no profit to be had. So you have to ensure that they get the proper money for the work they have done.

 

So the legitimate business, including all of the employees who work for the business, should suffer losses for some lazy tech junkie doesn't have to get a real job? Good lord, the man is 38 years old and living with his parents! He should have gotten a job and earned his money that way. As for the customers, if you have enough free time to play X-box games but no money to pay for them, getting a job will solve both of those problems.

 

Granted the government is overrun by lawyers who do a lot of stupid things - this specific case isn't one of them.

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[rootbear75]

45pounds for a game?! omfg

 

we have to pay $60 which is about 30 pounds...

 

wow.. the EU is so expensive

[Russky]

this is hard to be stopped but i agree soon these people will band together for various reasons

[Aileron]

Truth be told everyone could use more money, and every product which can be bought by money is always cheaper with the five-finger discount.

 

"Tough times" arguements only apply when the object in question is a 'need'. Sorry, but X-box games don't qualify. I for one can't afford an X-box 360 either, so I ended up sticking with a Gamecube. The way I figure it, Microsoft is building a product that their customers can't afford, while Nintendo is. If Nintendo sells more of their products, both companies would know that their customers would be in demand for cheaper products and would sell them at a lower price.

 

Don't get me started about Europe...

 

 

 

....I mean seriously....PLEASE don't get me started about Europe....

[masscarnage]

sooo ail what ya think about europe?? lol

 

my teach said that when he worked out in europe he got all this healthcare, cars, house for free but paid tons in taxes and the healthcare was a lil subpar.