Bricks

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WTF HAPPENED TO BRICKS!!!GAH!!!. I miss tetris. It was whoever had the fastest reflexes. Poacher box was extremely powerful, but since has been completely unused. Its way overpriced, and there are no turrets to take out. Other bricks mainly used for killing lancs have dissapeared, since its not worth the attempt. I totally agree on letting a few ships use bricks. The terrier has dissapeared from existance. I am too tired to finish my rant, but i hope you see my point (whatever it was)

[»D1st0rt]

I miss tetris. It was whoever had the fastest reflexes.

and you wonder why we removed them?

[Dr Brain]

Cage and poacher box have been fixed.

 

Added a cheap one called sparse brick that only bricks every other tile.

[James1293]

If its possible....you could have a separate brick item that respawns your bricks. But in return for having respawning bricks, u cant get any rockets. Like have the item do -5 rockets. Either that or have the item negate the effects of antideath. Or you can have both things negated.

 

Seeing how rushers depend on both rockets and antideath. If you make it so they cant use either, it wouldn't really benefit the person unless they are the antiwarp guy or bounty-ers.

I think that this is a great idea.

 

Item:Brick regenerator

-10 (or whatever) rockets

-stops ad

-reprizes brick (for now, until brain gets more time, it could just be normal brick) every death

-not available for 1,2,8

 

and there you go.

[cdrom]

then people will use it on ship 4,5,6,1,3

[Shia' Tan]

Brain, bricks now lay the wrong way in bases. I dont know if u did that on purpose or not...

[cdrom]

no basic bricks etc.(the single long 1s)is always like that, u have to aim it good, if ur a bit off, it goes another way

[Suicide_Run]

I always thought bricks is laid so it is positioned to the closest wall

[cdrom]

no, single bricks are positioned so they are parralel

[James1293]

i agree that bricks could be ship 5 only

and regerated

and no rockets

idk just do something....?

>_>

maybe half the price of all bricks (or make it 2/3rds)

and make sparse like $150 cause its not good for half of bricks' usages, only blocking for a very limited time in base (and it doesnt even help if u dont do it far enough that their shots dont get u thru the grating)

[Shia' Tan]

no basic bricks etc.(the single long 1s)is always like that, u have to aim it good, if ur a bit off, it goes another way

 

they always laid for me perpendicular to the neares walls before, in my experiance...

 

 

I always thought bricks is laid so it is positioned to the closest wall

 

thats the impression i was under

[Choose Profile]

I hate bricks. Any ship with infinite bricks can just reship constantly a spam them, which = no reason to play. Of course you could counter this by making a delay in laying time etc, but it would counteract your arguement for them to begin with. Also making an infinite brick item expensive to match its power would be appropriate, but that would leave only the rich to having said items, which of course would lead to more stupid topics like this one.

 

3vil - "A while ago alot of people worked hard to try to have BW one time use... if ur complaining to have it infinite again u must be a new player... or ude know how lame it was... the idea to be able to buy brick without going to store is a good idea though... but up to D1 and Doc at this point!"

^^

Very true, and I will not be forced by people who do not know the consequences of their actions to repeat my arguement.

 

If you guys need stronger and better supported reasons why bricks should not be brought back, look up my original topic on the issue (or later back to Fat Cat's topic) for a more detailed discussion.

 

My original topic on the issue, which initially lead to bricks being changed, can be found here:

CP brick topic -_-

[Aceflyer]

I hate bricks. Any ship with infinite bricks can just reship constantly a spam them, which = no reason to play. Of course you could counter this by making a delay in laying time etc, but it would counteract your arguement for them to begin with. Also making an infinite brick item expensive to match its power would be appropriate, but that would leave only the rich to having said items, which of course would lead to more stupid topics like this one.

 

3vil - "A while ago alot of people worked hard to try to have BW one time use... if ur complaining to have it infinite again u must be a new player... or ude know how lame it was... the idea to be able to buy brick without going to store is a good idea though... but up to D1 and Doc at this point!"

^^

Very true, and I will not be forced by people who do not know the consequences of their actions to repeat my arguement.

 

If you guys need stronger and better supported reasons why bricks should not be brought back, look up my original topic on the issue (or later back to Fat Cat's topic) for a more detailed discussion.

 

My original topic on the issue, which initially lead to bricks being changed, can be found here:

CP brick topic -_-

 

I agree with CP 100% basically. But I'd like to amend (to 3vil's statement) that I do not think it would be a good idea to be able to buy bricks without going to D1's Hardware Store. Because if you could buy bricks anywhere, you'd get brickspam again in bases by rich players (and even not-so-rich players, since a few hundred a pop isn't all that unaffordable to even the average player who doesn't care about saving up) who would just brick, buy, brick, buy, etcetera. The current scenario where you have to go to the store to buy a brick makes bricks powerful, specialty items that are, similarly to fields (which cost a thousand a pop and require you to go to the store in Sector 8 to buy) only used at the right time, and not just spammed indiscriminately.

[James1293]

here's a thought.....

 

You buy an item that allows you to use bricks (like field launcher), and then all bricks for that type cost $0. Sounds stupid, but keep reading...

 

EX:

I buy a "Brick Regenerator" (needs a better name) for 20k. I then can go to D1s hardware and buy 1 brick at a time. Therefore.... you dont get spam (cause ppl still have to go to d1's hardware) but you dont have to buy one each time: you buy the main item, then you can buy 1 at a time for free. ....Discuss...

[tcsoccer and neptune]

i like it a little bit

[Aceflyer]

i like it a little bit

 

I cautiously endorse that idea, or some derivative of it, as a good one to test out sometime. It seems to preserve both the advantages of having 'infinite bricks' while still preventing 'brickspam'. However, I note that even an idea that is good in principle may fail in practice due to unforeseen consequences...

 

As a matter of fact, I can see one way of 'abusing' that system right now...

 

Teams will simply set up shop bountying around D1's Hardware Store. And members with the "Brick Regenerator" will simply drop a brick, fly through the Hardware Store, buy a brick, fly out, drop it, and repeat at a rapid clip. There will effectively be a resumption of brickspamming around the Hardware Store - which would be lame as well as inconvenient (say, for people who actually want to visit the Store).

 

So yes, the idea might work well in basing and generally, but it would potentially spur the formation of a "Zone of Lameness" around the Hardware Store!

 

Maybe this particular problem could be remedied by making bricks purchasable at a remote Store, say at a "D1's Hardware Outpost" in Sector 8. (Bountying would not make much sense at such a remote (from center) location.) However, I'm not sure how many would endorse this variant of the idea, since it would make buying bricks even more inconvenient and time-consuming than it already is. (Paying a visit to Sector 8 generally takes significantly more time and effort than paying a visit to the lower-left corner of center, except for people with ID Drives or TW passes.)

Edited November 11, 2007 by Aceflyer

[James1293]

i agree, maybe make it so buying a brick kills your bty?

[Aceflyer]

i agree, maybe make it so buying a brick kills your bty?

 

Good idea; however, most "bountying teams" have a few people with high bounties and a whole host of people with low bounties who serve as 'meatshields' to protect the bountyers (and in return receive much $$$ from any kills the bountyers score). Any of the 'meatshield' folks could spam bricks unrestrictedly.

[cdrom]

sparse brick has problems, like 30% of the time u brick with it, nothing happens and u lose a brick

[James1293]

sparse brick should be lower priced, cause it's not as good as normal brick. its price should reflect that.

 

EDIT:

Edited November 13, 2007 by James1293

[JDS]

i like it a little bit

 

I cautiously endorse that idea, or some derivative of it, as a good one to test out sometime. It seems to preserve both the advantages of having 'infinite bricks' while still preventing 'brickspam'. However, I note that even an idea that is good in principle may fail in practice due to unforeseen consequences...

 

As a matter of fact, I can see one way of 'abusing' that system right now...

 

Teams will simply set up shop bountying around D1's Hardware Store. And members with the "Brick Regenerator" will simply drop a brick, fly through the Hardware Store, buy a brick, fly out, drop it, and repeat at a rapid clip. There will effectively be a resumption of brickspamming around the Hardware Store - which would be lame as well as inconvenient (say, for people who actually want to visit the Store).

 

So yes, the idea might work well in basing and generally, but it would potentially spur the formation of a "Zone of Lameness" around the Hardware Store!

 

Maybe this particular problem could be remedied by making bricks purchasable at a remote Store, say at a "D1's Hardware Outpost" in Sector 8. (Bountying would not make much sense at such a remote (from center) location.) However, I'm not sure how many would endorse this variant of the idea, since it would make buying bricks even more inconvenient and time-consuming than it already is. (Paying a visit to Sector 8 generally takes significantly more time and effort than paying a visit to the lower-left corner of center, except for people with ID Drives or TW passes.)

 

 

there are 'special map tiles' that prevent bricks from being placed. Perhaps just set some of these tiles around the hardware store..

[»D1st0rt]

You guys had better pray I don't catch you loitering by my hardware store, I might decide to start pressing charges.

[Aceflyer]

You guys had better pray I don't catch you loitering by my hardware store, I might decide to start pressing charges.

 

 

Wouldn't dream of disturbing the peace around your hardware store.

[James1293]

there are 'special map tiles' that prevent bricks from being placed. Perhaps just set some of these tiles around the hardware store..

 

soo.... my idea is good, with no bad points? yay!

 

it should be implemented! (or a variation)

[SupremeMe]

REmove bricks all together