Conspiracy? Stupidity? Only time will tell.

[aquarius]

i dont know about everyone else but when i am away from artificial light and look into the clear night sky i can see the nearby galaxies, in very fascinating detail

 

i know in this life there is great synchronicity and phenomena

i have learned through my life that life/god/light/energy/electric knows what i think and speaks to me through random events, such as a shocking fortune cookie answering my curently pondered questions, or finding five dollars just when i really needed it to make my day go as planned

 

we could say many things are god, what about electromagnetism? i believe gravity is electromagnetic, and that electromagnetism holds matter together

 

i tend to believe in the circular theories, or positive-negative theories such as:

 

protons and neutrons form an electromagnetic bond, and electrons orbit = a sun in the center of a solar system, with orbiting planets

(western science (school) claims they bond via Gluon (glue on)

 

just as you can say light is god, what about darkness, everything seems to have a complete polar opposite

 

body = soul

day = night

up = down

black = white

good = evil

ect.

 

it goes on and on, and it still fascinates me

 

to explain another circular theory i believe in, the Zodiac

now don't be confused when you see that word, it's actually fascinating

see it's a big circle, composed of signs which get their traits from certain stars/gods, and supposedly we travel through this cycle

it goes by ages, age of cancer, age of gemini, pisces ect. Each age lasts about 2000 years (woah, just about the same time we started getting into christianity, and for the most part, the new age)

as we float through the current age, the age of the Pisces, i suppose we adapt to the quality/personality/energy of Pisces

"Astrological ages occur because of a phenomenon known as the precession of the equinoxes. One complete period of this precession is called a Great Sidereal Year of about 25,800 to 25,920 years and it is divided in twelve astrological ages of 30 degrees each (ca. 2150 to 2160 years). Each of those twelve sections can be called either a Great Month or an Astrological Age." -astrological age

 

so according to my research (despite the lame articles on EVERY SIGN that say "oh you are awesome, loving, intelligent, BS!") the age of pisces is a very negative one

 

but guess what, we just completed another 2000 years, and what is to come, based on a large amount of history/belief, is the age of aquarius (interpreted in many ways though). Which is, in fact a spiritually enlightening age.

 

now i know what your going to say "people thought it was 1999, and 2007" and life is still run by the material non spiritual wicked.

 

but hey, three has always been a significant number, 2012, third time is a charm, why do the mayans end their calendar on 2012?

 

if you don't believe that this world grows more corrupt, evil, and violent, at an accelerating rate, and that we abuse our resources and carelessly dump waste where we see fit, then you are not being true to yourself

 

see it's the !@#$%^&*holes who think they control that evil, to obtain power in this 'age of pisces' where ignorance gives you power and kindness digs your grave, that also think they know everything. They know of much technology we do not. they control the weather using the electromagnetic field, before they attacked iraq, they gave them three years of drought, three years of bad crop, they couldn't import enough because they spent their money on guys which they bought from... usa.. So now they can shoot back and america can say "woah look at these terrorists with AK-47's"

 

that isn't even the half of the !@#$%^&* they do, in the 1970's a chemical company who's name i can't remember at the moment went in front of congress and intoduced a way to wipe out a country without ever sending a single unit, genetically engineered illness's: The first project funded by the usa was AIDS

 

i don't want to talk very much, but as an aquarius i find it hard to bite my tongue because i know the pisces all too well.

but i am afraid the government is going to kill me, or throw me in one of the new multistory prisons they are building in every county in the USA

Edited September 28, 2007 by Aquarius

[SeVeR]

There is so much wrong with that post, i wouldn't know where to start. Are you serious?

[NBVegita]

I really sincerely hope this is not a serious post either.

 

I mean did you read that AIDS article? I could write a thesis on everything wrong in just that article.

[aquarius]

the powers that be rely on your non-belief

i don't need concrete facts, because everything is opinion, no such thing as fact

i don't try to state any facts, this is just my opinion, what do you think will happen in the future?

personally, i think the powers that be know of the disasters coming, but are only protecting themselves and leaving the rest of the world to die, to lower the population, and have a stronger control over the few remaining

Edited September 28, 2007 by Aquarius

[X`terrania]

"She eyes me like a Pisces when I am weak."

 

And I'm really getting tired of the fact that the world is going to apparently end on 2012. It's really pissing me off. The calender has ended a few other times, so what's so different about it now? Wouldn't the date 6/6/6 have a greater meaning to it than 2012?

Edited September 28, 2007 by X`terrania

[LiDDiS]

Who are these 'powers that be'? The 5th dimensional lizard creatures that bred with the ancient Egyptians and have ever since ruled over humanity, which GW BUSH IS ONE OF? AKA THE ILLUMINATZIS? HITLER'S ICE BASE IN ANTARCTICA? YES NO YES NO YES MAYBE NO?

[X`terrania]

JESUS WALKS THE EARTH AS WE SPEAK... HE WILL REVEAL HIMSELF. LOL.

[Aileron]

Hey, Nostradumb!@#$%^&*, you are putting a lot of faith in a stone-age civilization. I don't know why but people nowadays tend to discredit our own civilization while exalting others when its really undeserved.

 

Yes, the Mayans had an accurate calender. We know that today because our calender is much more accurate. While the Mayans were looking at the stars and developing that calendar, the rest of the world kept their mind on Earth and developed metalurgy, physics, and chemistry.

 

Your perception of the atom is out of date. The Bohr model is only accurate for single electron atoms. Electrons don't orbit the nucleus like planets around a star. Actually when there are two or more their position can only be described by a statistical distribution, with most of the "orbits" not being circular at all.

 

Protons and Neutrons are held together by strong nuclear forces. As of yet there are four known types of forces in the physical universe: Electromagnetic, Strong Nuclear Force, Weak Nuclear Force, and Gravitational. Physicists are trying to come up with a Grand Unifying Theory, but have not had success as of yet. If you think your opinion is sufficient, you shouldn't be talking science.

 

I do think there is something not mentioned about AIDS, though it is not a conspiracy. Generally HIV occurs in homosexuals at a much higher rate than heterosexuals. However, that fact is not often mentioned due to political correctness. Still, the fact is that if you practice abstenance, you won't contract HIV unless you had it to begin with. If the "powers that be" are trying to preserve themselves by not sleeping around like a rodent, I'd say that's their perrogative.

 

Technology to control the weather? Sure, we can seed storms, but...even if such a device to actually control the weather existed, do you realise how much power you would need to pull that off? I mean, if such a power plant existed, whoever is running it could bankrupt the entire Middle East just by getting people to switch to electric cars.

 

Oh, and finally, the United States never sold AK-47s to anybody. That type of firearm was constructed by the Soviet Union. The US sold M-16s.

[aquarius]

thats what i like to hear, everyone else should edit/delete their posts

 

hmm, could you show me information on an experiment that clearly results in this stong nuclear force holding atoms together? electromagnetism is still my !@#$%^&*umption for now.

 

hiv aids was developed to kill blacks (imo) --we gave native americans smallpox..

 

 

Large power plants? We control the weather via super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas, electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything

 

M-16's? oh.. Soviet union makes AK's? learn something new everyday

 

 

good reply

[NBVegita]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_force

 

I know its wiki but at least its not a conspiracy article written by a 73 year old retired dermatologist, who also believes there is a global conspiracy to keep the secret of curing cancer a secret because if it became public knowledge that it took so long to find this "simple" solution, it would be a humiliation to the medical field.

 

Oh wait...thats the man you believe concerning the AIDS virus.

 

If you would like me to point out all of the fallacies in his article, I will be happy to do so when I have the time, as it will take a good amount of time.

[SeVeR]

I've studied physics at university for four years. The electromagnetic force cannot be reponsible for holding the atom together and it's rather simple to understand why when i tell you a little about the atom. At the turn of the century scientists believed in a "plum-pudding" model of the atom where all the positive protons and negative electrons were intermingled in a chaotic manner. Then a man named Ernest Rutherford came along and fired small positively charged particles (alpha particles) at some gold foil. Everyone expected the particles to be absorbed or bounced back by the gold atoms in the foil. To his surprise nearly all the particles went straight through! The only way to explain the results was to imagine the atom as being a small positively charged nucleus, orbitted by negatively charged electrons.

 

The electromagnetic force causes like-charges to repel, like when you put magnets together in the wrong way. Given this law of physics, how can a nucleus have all it's positively charged parts clumped together in it's centre? The answer is it's impossible without another force, as the electromagnetic force would blow the nucleus apart. This force is called the Strong-Nuclear force. It acts over a small range to hold together the protons in the nucleus. Neutrons also reside in the nucleus and are electrically neutral and thus cannot be affected by the electromagnetic force. They are however influenced by the Strong Nuclear force and the neutrons act to separate the protons, reducing the effects of the electromagnetic force between them.

 

The strong force can be witnessed in action by firing protons/neutrons (a beam) at other protons/neutrons (a target) and measuring the angles and energies of those which are scattered. From these measurements we can determine the forces which acted on our beam of protons/neutrons when they reached their target. We see that the protons are repelled from eachother unless they have enough initial energy to get close enough for the strong force to take effect, causing fusion (usually temporary before fission).

 

The electromagnetic force acts between protons and electrons. The electrons orbit the nucleus in very specific orbits. This is nothing at all like the planets which can orbit at any distance.

[X`terrania]

Aquarius, are you the type of guy who believes that Bush causes all the hurricanes that attack the States? And what do you mean hiv was made to kill blacks, explain that please ;/

[Aileron]

He thinks it was a biological weapon, and if so the first outbreak of AIDs was in Africa. Its just that as a biological weapon AIDs sucks...it takes several years to kill the victim and it doesn't spread around easily. I mean, wouldn't Anthrax be more effective?

 

Come to think of it very few racists in history were genocidal. Most merely wanted to dominate the others in a state of servitude.

 

 

The power plant would be needed to provide electricity to operate the "super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology". The atmosphere is a large thing, and to manipulate in any way shape or form takes a large amount of energy. And that theory is toast...it doesn't matter how many radio waves you shoot at any part of the atmosphere (I will assume that the device is some sort of radio-laser...a device that doesn't exist but at the same time isn't implausible)...they will go straight though without heating anything. Odds are the atmosphere would be more heated by whatever device you were using to emit the radiowave beam that by the beam itself.

 

There are some materials that while absorb one type of electromagnetic radiation and emit another - for instance anything that glows while under a black light. However, the ionosphere doesn't react to radio waves in this manner. No form of electromagnetic radiation can penetrate the Earth, because the Earth is simply too massive an object. Finally, even if you can pull all of that off, the weather is more dependent upon solar energy than the temperature of the Earth.

[rootbear75]

Wouldn't the date 6/6/6 have a greater meaning to it than 2012?

Maybe if it was June the 6th, in 6 C.E. (Common Era)

6/6/06 is not the same

[Smarties]

i dont know about everyone else but when i am away from artificial light and look into the clear night sky i can see the nearby galaxies, in very fascinating detail

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ROFL artificial. you do realise there will be natural but not direct sunlight wherever you are, thanks to the thing we call THE !@#$%^&*IN MOON

[PoLiX]

seeing as it is questioned if it was truly 666 (The church itself is going through new do!@#$%^&*entation found that brings up question to this), 6/6/6 had no meaning.

 

2012 comes up MANY MANY ways, yes. There is even a calculus problem for antiquing and it even shows a huge fall in value of the earth in 2012. A friend of mine even took it to school and his teacher had the class do it as a project, and they came out right along the same line. Math, being infallible, I found that interesting, but I don't think the end of the world is 2012.

 

I find his beliefs no more crazy than someone believing in Messiahs, Saints, and all that other crap. It is just his explanation of how things around us go round. But astrology is a very interesting thing, something with ties into cultures far older than that of many current religions. I've always found the Mayan, Egyptian, and Ancient Chinese/Japanese cultures very interesting, as in the fact how much they shared in their beliefs, ideas, and way of life. In a time where even a few miles apart was a long journey, they we're thousands upon thousands of miles apart, and yet shared so much.

[aquarius]

ROFL artificial. you do realise there will be natural but not direct sunlight wherever you are, thanks to the thing we call THE !@#$%^&*IN MOON

yes i realize there will be natural but not direct sunlight wherever I am, but i am talking about not being exposed to artificial light (street lights, gas stations)

why post with nothing to say?

Edited September 29, 2007 by Aquarius

[X`terrania]

I'm just saying -- 666 is known as the Beast's mark, so you'd think it would have some type of event going on... Whereas 2012 is what? Presidential elections in Finland? Earth finally hitting about 7 billion people in total? Charles Manson being eligible for a parole hearing again?

!@#$%^&* it. When 2012 arrives I'll just go out and buy a new calender.

Edited September 29, 2007 by X`terrania

[Smarties]

I don't know who Mayans are, everyone else but me is stupid.

 

And I don't know how to quote

Edited October 1, 2007 by Samapico
Lots of moronisms

[X`terrania]

^ can someone clean that up a bit ;/ like maybe

or something..

[rootbear75]

smarties, you are a moron.

the mayans were an ancient central american indian tribe. (like the aztecs or w/e)

they are already all dead

 

Learn your history !@#$%^&*

Edited September 29, 2007 by rootbear75

[Falcoknight]

Can someone ban Smarties from posting in this forum? I think his posts have gone beyond KnightFlame's in terms of uselessness and idiocy.

[Smarties]

no need to horribly degrade my self by learning pathetic american history

 

and agreed on xters post, was too lazy to quote

[rootbear75]

Can someone ban Smarties from posting in this forum? I think his posts have gone beyond KnightFlame's in terms of uselessness and idiocy.

please

 

i have already reported a number of them for sheer stupidity and bashing people for no reason

 

no need to horribly degrade my self by learning pathetic american history

 

and agreed on xters post, was too lazy to quote

its not american/usa history you moron

its world history.

Edited September 29, 2007 by rootbear75

[X`terrania]

On a side note.. Mayan tribes still do exist..