Eclipse144 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Every basing team there are the weasels that always spam wall bombing emp and they are wreaking the game. many people will agree with me but a few will disagree (the weasels wall bombing). They are ruining the fun of the game. can u delay the Emp so they cant spam wall bombing in bases? Quote
zephoid Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Every basing team there are the weasels that always spam wall bombing emp and they are wreaking the game. many people will agree with me but a few will disagree (the weasels wall bombing). They are ruining the fun of the game. can u delay the Emp so they cant spam wall bombing in bases? the point of wzls is top stop spamming gunners and levis. While increasing the delay may seem a good idea, it ruins the wzl cuz it also is the item delay time. if anything decrease the emp time Quote
gfd Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 (edited) true but mabye a small increase wouldnt be bad i cant be sure having never played in weasel Edited September 27, 2007 by gfd Quote
aquarius Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 I think brain should reduce the weasels "explode pixels", that is the real problem, not emp shutdown time, or bomb "explode pixels" = the distance from an explosion in which you are still affected Quote
Dr Brain Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Can't change that per ship. Quote
Masaru Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 A shortened emp time would be the easiest way to fix this, just that emp wallbombing isn't nearly as effective as HE bombing, in my mind. Quote
Deathmonger Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Wallbombing is the closest thing that attackers have to balancing out the overwhelming advantage defenders have in certain bases. The term Aquarius is looking for is 'splash damage radius'. The issue you're talking about to comes down to whether the Weasel should have HE Missiles or not. When they were added, guns and speed were nerfed to compensate. HE Missiles work much better in base than the old weasel bombs, so I'd say it accomplished the goal of making the Weasel a base option again. Take them away without some other rebalancing and the Weasel becomes totally useless. Quote
tcsoccer and neptune Posted September 27, 2007 Report Posted September 27, 2007 Put it back to normal and it becomes a deadly centering and btying ship Quote
Boldot Posted September 28, 2007 Report Posted September 28, 2007 Im still an advocate for removing HE from weasels, and updating stingray torpedos to be L2 bombs. I think that would help quite a bit, as it would also remove the insane amount of mines weasel can get with HE missiles. Quote
Sharpflame Posted September 28, 2007 Report Posted September 28, 2007 I liked the one that was big before it was changed. It can keep the size, it's great, but back to Stingray and EMP Shockwave would also be great. The old gun speed wasn't bad either. I suggest changing it to the Warbird's gun speed or around 3800. Quote
tcsoccer and neptune Posted September 28, 2007 Report Posted September 28, 2007 The old weasel actually took skill to use and was a good centering ship. Nowdays, people just spam HE to kill people. Any newb could do it and it gets very annoying. Quote
aquarius Posted September 29, 2007 Report Posted September 29, 2007 base 6 has a defensive bombline for HE wzl bombs that needs immediate change Quote
Shia' Tan Posted September 30, 2007 Report Posted September 30, 2007 I liked the one that was big before it was changed. It can keep the size, it's great, but back to Stingray and EMP Shockwave would also be great. The old gun speed wasn't bad either. I suggest changing it to the Warbird's gun speed or around 3800. ^ i loved that ship BRING IT BACK!! Quote
cdrom Posted September 30, 2007 Report Posted September 30, 2007 old wzl was acually GOOD, if its brought back, it would decrease the amount of spiders in the center(i for 1 will use this wzl) Quote
Suicide_Run Posted October 1, 2007 Report Posted October 1, 2007 Wzl needs a separate Lvl2 emp bomb item instead of using HE. Most people tend to use wzl cause of HE since they can just bomb spam Quote
got bounty? Posted October 1, 2007 Report Posted October 1, 2007 Weasel sucks.Terrier sucks. Start from point blank and make a new ones. :] Quote
James1293 Posted October 3, 2007 Report Posted October 3, 2007 The old weasel actually took skill to use and was a good centering ship. Nowdays, people just spam HE to kill people. Any newb could do it and it gets very annoying.Reminds me of the spider/flechette spamming problem...how come the ships that take skill are always the ones you start with? >_> i havent been able to get anywhere with wb/jav, i have no skill...i wish someone would give me like... 30k... for a lanc >_> base 6 has a defensive bombline for HE wzl bombs that needs immediate change^^^^^^^^^ Quote
Choose Profile Posted October 26, 2007 Report Posted October 26, 2007 Wzl is fine how it is. If you're angry because you cant spam pulse in your spider with a pesky emper around, then buy vertex armor. The same goes for crying rushers, and crying defenders. If wzl emps do happen to be changed though, i would love an increase in bullet speed as a trade off. Quote
zephoid Posted October 26, 2007 Report Posted October 26, 2007 Wzl is fine how it is. If you're angry because you cant spam pulse in your spider with a pesky emper around, then buy vertex armor. The same goes for crying rushers, and crying defenders. If wzl emps do happen to be changed though, i would love an increase in bullet speed as a trade off. er..... cp...... vertex increases emp time...... u want faraday shield Quote
Choose Profile Posted October 26, 2007 Report Posted October 26, 2007 no, i want faraday. YOU want vertex, at least when im emping. Quote
got bounty? Posted October 27, 2007 Report Posted October 27, 2007 My earlier post, I lied. I got 65:0 in center 3 days ago.I got 50:0 yesterday.I got 90:0 today. The emp time is fine. It makes Faraday worth buying. If we did anything to the emp, it would make faraday unless and almost obsolete. Quote
»D1st0rt Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 Those stats are meaningless, and the fact that you didnt die once leads me to believe you were just hiding near a safe the whole time. Congratulations. Quote
got bounty? Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 (edited) Haha, Nope i wasn't near a safe at all. I ran my !@#$%^&* off most of the time had 3-5 people chasing me. :] That post was directed towards the suggestion that the old weasel took skill and was a good centering ship- It still is.These stats prove people can tame weasel, and weasel doesn't suck, it just has an ugly cover. People just have to take the time and effort to do it. By the way, EMP doesn't really kill..It only maims. It does 150-250dmg compared to the regular 500-750dmg a bomb any other ship uses. EMP isn't very powerful, you people just think it's annoying. I agree with all of you. Here is my solution: Buy Faraday. It's 10K and there for a reason. Edited October 28, 2007 by got bounty? Quote
zephoid Posted October 28, 2007 Report Posted October 28, 2007 Haha, Nope i wasn't near a safe at all. I ran my !@#$%^&* off most of the time had 3-5 people chasing me. :] That post was directed towards the suggestion that the old weasel took skill and was a good centering ship- It still is.These stats prove people can tame weasel, and weasel doesn't suck, it just has an ugly cover. People just have to take the time and effort to do it. By the way, EMP doesn't really kill..It only maims. It does 150-250dmg compared to the regular 500-750dmg a bomb any other ship uses. EMP isn't very powerful, you people just think it's annoying. I agree with all of you. Here is my solution: Buy Faraday. It's 10K and there for a reason. faraday makes emp do like 400 damage, plus u get raped by falcon. as an armor, faraday is the least useful as it only effects one type of damage that is not commonly used overall. if the damage increase was removed, it still dont think it would b as good as other armors, but it might be better Quote
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