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*** If you don't believe in a God then please don't get involved in this, its not to argue the existence of god, but to discuss and interesting anomaly about the nature of light and god, for those people who already believe in him ***

 

Anyway was reading sections of a book called Time Peace during the past few days. My mom knows the author, apparently they were good friends a long time ago, but anyway, had a copy of this book layign around (it came out in the last year) so I decided I'd flip through some of it considering it was short.

 

As for the accuracy of some of the author's scientific statements... i donno, but heres what she said anyway.

As per Einstein's relativity and E=mc2 the closer you get to the speed of light, m!@#$%^&* actually enlarges. Supposable when a subatomic particle was accelerated to 99.9999% the speed of light by scientists, it enlarged to 430 times its original mass Also, the closer you are to the speed of light, the slower times goes by for you. She says that (not sure about this) at the speed of light, time no longer affects you. Maybe this is why we can never seem to reach that speed. Maybe it is the nature of time, that we can not cease to experience it, it must exist, if only to the smallest degree.

 

With it being established that at the speed of light time no longer functions, consider the following: God has often been portrayed as or in light. In the Bible when Saul had his confrontation with God (And became the apostle Paul) he said he simply saw blinding light and heard God's voice speak to him. Daniel wrote "He knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with him." In the new testament Jesus took Peter, james, and john to a mountain, "There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light." If God is indeed the being who reigns forever and who is outside of our constrictions of time, could God to some degree be light?

 

I thought that was kind of interesting. I didn't know what to make of it, I obviously don't think that every beam of light coming to me from the sun is God, but the nature of the two things coincides very interestingly.

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eh you can relate 'god' to anything, light is definetly an iteresting thing that even now we can only dream of fully understanding

 

however perhaps in time light may be understood fully and we can use it to our advantage and all of this will be nonsense

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As per Einstein's relativity and E=mc2 the closer you get to the speed of light, m!@#$%^&* actually enlarges. Supposable when a subatomic particle was accelerated to 99.9999% the speed of light by scientists, it enlarged to 430 times its original mass Also, the closer you are to the speed of light, the slower times goes by for you. She says that (not sure about this) at the speed of light, time no longer affects you. Maybe this is why we can never seem to reach that speed. Maybe it is the nature of time, that we can not cease to experience it, it must exist, if only to the smallest degree.

Time doesnt stop when you reach the speed of light.. where the !@#$%^&* did the author get this information?!

If anything, you appear to go backward in time, since if you go faster than light, you will beat your light reflection to where you are going...

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I'm not speaking here as an agnostic, but as a scientist.

 

Light has no known properties that indicate intelligence.

As far as i know time does stand still for the travelling observer at the speed of light. Time dilation becomes infinite and everything stands still from the travellers perspective. Thus if you travel at the speed of light then you will never get old and die from the perspective of those who are not travelling at your speed. From your perspective you will live a normal life (as normal as possible at light-speed) as your view of time will be proper in your frame of reference.

M!@#$%^&* does increase to infinity at the speed of light.

 

Jesus and God have been attributed to light because all ancient religions viewed the stars and the sun as the Gods. These astronomical markers have been carried through to the Bible. The Jesus story is significant in this respect as the 25th of December holds special astronomical significance, and the story would run parallel to this yearly occurence if we considered Jesus to represent the "morning star"... something he is actually called in the Bible.

 

I think this is a much more likely reason.

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M!@#$%^&* does increase to infinity at the speed of light.
Which is why we can't reach it, I guess... You can't accelerate something that has an infinite mass.. it would take infinite energy blum.gif
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M!@#$%^&* does increase to infinity at the speed of light.
Which is why we can't reach it, I guess... You can't accelerate something that has an infinite mass.. it would take infinite energy blum.gif

 

That's a likely based !@#$%^&*umption, it could be that current physics don't work anymore when m!@#$%^&* is faster than speed of light (if that is possible but who knows)

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That's right, science is continually advancing, and just as Einstein's theory produced minor adjustments to Newtons theory (for typical velocities), there may be more yet to come.

 

A few theories i can think of about faster than light travel:

 

If you could annihilate all the matter in an object, such as a spaceship, and project that light-energy in a way that preserves all the information (a kind of matter stream), then as long as the energy can be re-integrated into matter, an object could be transported vast distances at light-speed. Of course you'd need a receiver at the other end with an energy2matter conversion device. This is way beyond our abilities.

 

If you could fold space, then we may not need to reach the light-speed barrier.

 

If dark matter could be contained within magnetic fields then it's anti-gravity properties could be utilised to propel a spaceship to great speeds.

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My literature teacher has also talked about, what would happen IF you could travel to the edge of the universe? Theoretically, lets just say you got to the edge where the universe is expanding. What would happen if you passed beyond that point? or could you?
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If you could fold space, then we may not need to reach the light-speed barrier.

zero space?

 

My literature teacher has also talked about, what would happen IF you could travel to the edge of the universe? Theoretically, lets just say you got to the edge where the universe is expanding. What would happen if you passed beyond that point? or could you?

i suspect what will happen is the same thing as what Mill Man is doing with thirdspace

i think that gravity from the universe will slow you down as you reach the border, then you will eventually stop in you tracks when you hit the border

 

because once you get the the edge of the universe, you have nothing to percieve movement as all of the stars and planets are behind you

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Or there is no actual "edge". An edge would be thinking three dimensionally, and the universe most likely exists in more ways than we can currently comprehend.
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How couldn't there be an edge? I believe it's been proven that the universe is expanding, even if there's aspects to the universe that we don't understand or know about yet, I think they would be expanding with the rest of the universe, and therefore also have an edge. Although maybe different aspects of the universe could have different edges, so you would have no SINGLE ULTIMATE edge, would be like a drawn-out fading.
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Into whatever is beyond the universe, maybe nothing. I just meant instead one one absolute barrier, where there's universe, then no universe, maybe different aspects of the universe have different boundaries, so you'd experience w/e phenomenon leaving the universe causes over a period of time. Like slowing down gradually for a stop sign rather then stopping in your tracts. Whatever.
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there is no edge... space itself is actually expanding... like say you put two dots on a balloon and blow it up... it looks like the dots are moving apart from each other, but actually the surface they're on is what's expanding. Sort of like that, but in three dimensions. Since space is expanding faster than the speed of light (ever wonder why things can be over 20 billion light years away when the age of the universe is less than 14 billion years?), we have no hope of catching up the the "edge". Even if the expansion of space slows down and reverses, which looks doubtful, it would sort of suck us back into the center.

 

http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/kid...tml&edu=mid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_crunch

 

this topic seems a bit hijacked, but yeah, light is pretty mysterious

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If you could fold space, then we may not need to reach the light-speed barrier.

zero space?

 

My literature teacher has also talked about, what would happen IF you could travel to the edge of the universe? Theoretically, lets just say you got to the edge where the universe is expanding. What would happen if you passed beyond that point? or could you?

i suspect what will happen is the same thing as what Mill Man is doing with thirdspace

i think that gravity from the universe will slow you down as you reach the border, then you will eventually stop in you tracks when you hit the border

 

because once you get the the edge of the universe, you have nothing to percieve movement as all of the stars and planets are behind you

 

holy !@#$%^&* your stupid you fat !@#$%^&*in peice of !@#$%^&*. the thing is, YOU CANT travel to the border of the universe, sure you throw your pathetic theorys around, but theres more evidence proving the universe is infinite rather than it being a closed area.

 

BTW you could never travel to border of the universe if there was a border. youre not factoring all the flying space matter that could easily end your life, therefore the travel to the border ends. Gravitional pull of other planets/stars/objects. supplies keeping you alive would be scarce unless you have a garden center in your space craft which you plan to use to reach the border for air/water/food. and not to mention, supernovas, black holes, collisions.......... you get the !@#$%^&*in picture yet? SIGH idiots

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in a universe that is infinite, there is no such thing as empty, nor full, words that describe size, distance, and time are completly useless when explaining the universe.

 

 

!@#$%^&* sakes you god !@#$%^&* kids

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