Canada_rox Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 Remeberance day is comming up! So I'm wondering about the armys of today! Ok as you can guess from my name i'm from Canada and so our millitary isn't as involved with wars as others armies are. We do tons of peace keeping and Jean Chretien (our prime minister) doesn't give the army enough money to support itself. My point being there is so much money that has to be sunk into the army to keep up with new technologies, amo, equipment, food, etc. Is it worth it? It is worth every penny in my mind. Well maybe not all the pennys but all the same. Our army is always peace keeping and helping others! Why should Jean CHretien make numerous promises about an raise of allowance only to lie (well he did give money but not nearly as much as he had promised)! And now they have to lay off people! The media continues to be entertained as they tell half stories which make the army look like crap! The USA opinion and Army situation would be different and so I want to hear your opinions on this! (Canadians and anyone elses opinion is wanted too of course)
Canada_rox Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Posted November 10, 2003 lol well whether i like them or not my dads in the army so i'm stuck moving around with him.
Canada_rox Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Posted November 10, 2003 Moving every 2 years! I'm not sure where i'll be next year so i'm not sure where i'm graduating! I gotten to live in Australia for a year! uh... so i'm not sure, you be the judge
MonteZuma Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 A military is a necessary evil. The world is a mess and the good guys need to keep the bad guys in check. It sucks, but hey...what can ya do? Oh yeah...and btw...yea...Canada does have the best military in the world. Peace keeping rocks and war mongering sucks. Its just a shame that Canada does have really bad beaches. Otherwise I'd think about visiting some day. Monte.
»dr uniburner Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 canada is a cool country...I really dont think they need a defensively mindset armed service tho, but instead concentrate heavily on there peacekeeping services.
Darkflare Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 voici les cles a ton bonnes heures
Paine Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 Fighting is the stupid mans way of talking.
Bacchus Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 I'm from Quebec (Canada's french province for those not knowing /and/or caring to know) and i'd like to correct some things: It's "Je me souviens" not "je me souvenir" but nice try, it was a verb thing :wink: and "voici les clés à ton bonheur", although it was phonetically sound you just said:" there's the keys to your good hour" And although i don't have any problem honoring the dead, i personally don't think I would honor their sacrifice correctly if i wanted to have more tools to have more people honored as dead. ok, not sure it makes sense.... I mean, we don't need more army. Why would we? defense? from who? our most dangerous foe would be our neighbor, US. And even if we had to defend ourselves, it would take a long time (i'm not sure it would even be possible) to have enough military ressources to be any real challenge. More so, Canada's territory is too big to defend atm. More military wouldn't change anything in the short or medium terms. There's more pressing domestic matters i think. Peace missions are great, though it looks like a peace missions are implemented following geopolitical decisions...but that's another story
Bueshtak Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 We need to fix our economy before we go worrying about getting a bigger army that we really have no need for. Go for economic power, not military. I live in B.C btw, Okanagan Valley is the most beautiful place I've ever been to, and I be happy to live here.
madhaha Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 *looks at the stupid poll* Where "we" = America it seems. Define army please. Armed forces are a method of control. For there to be stability, I think an armed force is requisite. Anyone care to exapand? While armed forces are not inevitable, they tend to be the most direct method of control and as such, countries without significant armed forces will usually fall to those that do. WTF does this poll have to do with Armistice day?
Manus Celer Dei Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 I live in New Zealand, we don't have an army because we're too isolated and resource poor for anyone to bother invading. Instead we send peacekeepers to places like East Timor and Kosovo. Heh, we even sold off our entire air combat wing, all our Airforce has now are transport and naval spotting planes.
Yupa Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 peacekeepers? is that the elite group? I thought NZ had a really rad small but elite force anyways, SUP MANUS
Canada_rox Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Posted November 10, 2003 Ah so where do i begin To MonteZuma 'Millitary is a necessary evil' is probably best describing it in my mind. Athough not everyone would call it an evil. 'Canada best army' means a lot comming from an aussie. Although its been awhile I don't see much wrong with The Anzacs (maybe the cookies). We do have waves and the largest rip tide in the world. But i guess compared to you.... To dr uniburner I don't think Canada needs a larger millitary force. Although I do know we need more money to support what we have. Peacekeeping is what we should keep to for the moment. (I hope nothing comes up that requires us to go to war) To X_Paine o/ No matter how much we might hate the millitary it is sometimes necessary. Not all countries are first world contries therefore might not have an open view on things and try to force upon people religion, values, gouverment etc. But then you probably knew that To Akai My dad has a sword and the handle has shark skin on it (to have grip even when wet) To Bacchus Now that i'm in Alberta and not in Ontario i'm not looking at the Quebec license plates anymore . I was wondering whether is was souvien or souvenir ( i was also waiting for someone to pick up the mistake). A stupid mistake (i've been in french immersion all my life). We are on a potentiel hit list for Alqueada (i know i spelt that wrong) so we can be attacked. But we aren't exactly on the verge of war. Souvenir que je veut que Quebec reste avec Canada! C'est une belle province!
Canada_rox Posted November 10, 2003 Author Report Posted November 10, 2003 To Bueshtak I do agree that our main concern shouldn't be a bigger millitary force. Although to get a bigger economy we need more people. I don't think many people know that were underpopulated for this country. Ever wonder why we have so many immigrants? ONE of the reasons is that the people here and now aren't uh... making enough babies. Well while the okanagan is nice it still isn't all that warm during the winter. Take the coast! Although the fruit is good. Although the Ogopogo thing is old. To madhaha No i didn't try to imply that america was going all comando. I suppose i should've kept as just yes or no or not sure. I say army cus its a habit. I mean it as millitary but you can percieve it any way you like. Again i think millitary is something that is needed to a point. And this really has not much to do with millitary except that it was invovled! What does it matter!?There is a connection. To Manus Celer Dei Well you used your army as soldiers in Lord of the Rings, thats important lol. jk. My parents are firends with a guy who is in the NZ army. I think hewould dissagree but since hes living in Africa right now and has been to Antartica and lived in Aus. for a year at the same time as us i think that would prove NZ isn't all bad. When its Anzac it thinks its good. But then its been too long since i've been to Aus. or NZ. 'God save the queen' i wouldn't recomend you meet an aussie with that. Although its been awhile since the seperation vote. I ask you why do you start with changing the flag!? Uh but i shouldn't go into to that. I'm so out of date. Omg thats all! I'm sure somewhere up there i've contradicted myself (i didn't mean to) I don't mean to offend anyone!
Darkflare Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 and "voici les clés à ton bonheur", although it was phonetically sound you just said:" there's the keys to your good hour" too lazy to get the accents. and its part of a song. bye gerard lenorman or lenormand...something like that...called voici les cles
MonteZuma Posted November 10, 2003 Report Posted November 10, 2003 Ah so where do i begin To MonteZuma 'Millitary is a necessary evil' is probably best describing it in my mind. Athough not everyone would call it an evil. 'Canada best army' means a lot comming from an aussie. Although its been awhile I don't see much wrong with The Anzacs (maybe the cookies). We do have waves and the largest rip tide in the world. But i guess compared to you....Well yeah, the Australian military is cool, better than the US and probably most other countries. But because Australia was involved in the invasion of Iraq, I think that tips the balance to Canada. In a few years I will re-evaluate. Stay posted. Monte.
MillenniumMan Posted November 11, 2003 Report Posted November 11, 2003 To CR:I know it sucks not having a permanent place to live until your dad leaves the service. Until then you and he and anyone else you may have running with you will have to make some sacrifices. Veterans is a reminder to most folks that sometimes there is a price for the freedoms we enjoy. Unfortunatley there are -*BAD WORD*-s that take this for granted and have veterans day sales, memorial day sales, 4th of july sales and so forth. If it comes down to having a 9-11/patriots day sale I will start going ape-*BAD WORD*- and hunt those morons down. To Akai:Armies aren't stupid, it's those that run them that make them good or bad. Albeit I'd prefer a cons!@#$%^&*utionaly established continuus continental militia (reference Cincinatus, Roman General) in which we the people were the running army, defending the country. Albeit you have professional soldiers who have the training and career military men who shuffle paperwork and troops to get things done worldwide, I'd like to see normal people take a greater role once again. Sure we have the national guard and coast guard, but not enough full time reservists amongst the civilian population. To montezuma:I say the IDF is the best. Surrounded by all those towelheads, and they're still alive after 50 years. Any other army and they would have been wiped out a long time ago. To X_Paine o/:And diplomacy is the politicians way of saying nice doggie til you can find a rock big enough to bash his brains in with (N. Korea and Iran) To Bacchus:Americans think of you guys as the backwards re-*BAD WORD*-ed cousin, we're very protective of you guys and do what we can to help. We wouldn't dare smack you. We may say you did a bad thing and send you to your room once in a while but we wouldn't attack you. Problem is you guys keep letting the bad neighbors kids into our front door so they can break our stuff... To Manus CelWTF your name is:That's right, nobody hates you guys. You're just buddies with everyone *sees a rabid Roo hoppin' into camp wired with explosives* Please don't attack me with your airforce and your superior naval powers JK Ahh to not have enemies. -*BAD WORD*-, even the swiss have enemies, they're called the I.R.S.
Canada_rox Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Posted November 11, 2003 ...But because Australia was involved in the invasion of Iraq' date=' I think that tips the balance to Canada. In a few years I will re-evaluate. Stay posted. Monte.[/quote'] Ah yes i see where your comming from now. I had forgotten about that. You know I see that as you guys trying to get the world to give you attention. Thats probably really offensive to you, i'm sorry and maybe not accurate at all. And besides our countries values are different. I will look forward to your re-evaluation, although by then you might have to email me cus i might not still be on this.
Canada_rox Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Posted November 11, 2003 To CR:I know it sucks not having a permanent place to live until your dad leaves the service. Until then you and he and anyone else you may have running with you will have to make some sacrifices. Veterans is a reminder to most folks that sometimes there is a price for the freedoms we enjoy. Unfortunatley there are -*BAD WORD*-s that take this for granted and have veterans day sales, memorial day sales, 4th of july sales and so forth. If it comes down to having a 9-11/patriots day sale I will start going ape-*BAD WORD*- and hunt those morons down. :wink: I'm glad you care. As far as i am concerned about veterans adn remeberance day, theyre isn't enough consideration and remebering for them. I'm probably the only one out of all my classes whos actually going to ceremony. Although i'll admit freezing my -*BAD WORD*- off isn't what i'd call fun. Anyways i hope everyone spends a minute tomorow remebering.
Bacchus Posted November 11, 2003 Report Posted November 11, 2003 Americans think of you guys as the backwards re-*BAD WORD*-ed cousin, we're very protective of you guys and do what we can to help. We wouldn't dare smack you. We may say you did a bad thing and send you to your room once in a while but we wouldn't attack you. Problem is you guys keep letting the bad neighbors kids into our front door so they can break our stuff... You're kidding me, right? Tell me it's a taunt, not your actual thoughts. Ok, i'll go on and naively think you're baiting me into a long rant about US expansionism, paternalism, etc.
MillenniumMan Posted November 11, 2003 Report Posted November 11, 2003 Americans think of you guys as the backwards re-*BAD WORD*-ed cousin, we're very protective of you guys and do what we can to help. We wouldn't dare smack you. We may say you did a bad thing and send you to your room once in a while but we wouldn't attack you. Problem is you guys keep letting the bad neighbors kids into our front door so they can break our stuff... You're kidding me, right? Tell me it's a taunt, not your actual thoughts. Ok, i'll go on and naively think you're baiting me into a long rant about US expansionism, paternalism, etc. It's a taunt. Don't get your creps' in a bunch. In alot of ways you're less backwards than the USA.
Canada_rox Posted November 11, 2003 Author Report Posted November 11, 2003 Americans think of you guys as the backwards re-*BAD WORD*-ed cousin, we're very protective of you guys and do what we can to help. We wouldn't dare smack you. We may say you did a bad thing and send you to your room once in a while but we wouldn't attack you. Problem is you guys keep letting the bad neighbors kids into our front door so they can break our stuff... You're kidding me, right? Tell me it's a taunt, not your actual thoughts. Ok, i'll go on and naively think you're baiting me into a long rant about US expansionism, paternalism, etc. I might have to agree with bachus there. Cus I can't understand why America would ever want to meddle in Quebecs affairs. You have Louisiane. I am confused on your angle MM.
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