Cancer+ Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 HOE, you seem inexperienced to me. You banned me for just coming in with the name Cancer+. That seems newbish to me.
Sass Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Woot, no more DS! Die die die! Woohoo! lol, jk
Dav Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 My guess is that DS will survive but things won't be the same. How it will be different? I don't know , TBH i dont know who will be left, who will be in the team that takes it foward and how its done. ATM im not even sure if ill be in the mix given my time commitments. TBH I think I should take a bit of heat from this given my lower then normal activity as of late, of course IMO there are many other factors that have helped send things downward. All that said this was almost cirtainly going to happen anyway with the divisions between people in the zone (no I wont give details, thats up to the iondividuals if they so wish) , many divisions had created between cirtain people and eventually it just has to break regardless of what I or anyone else does to try and hold things together. All im going to say now if all the best to the people that have left DS, will see you all in the game obviously but where and when? IDK
»doc flabby Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Well if you need any flabby help You guys know where I am. I suggest changing the zone to have a diamond theme, yes that would be a good idea http://flabby.tv
Hellonearth Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 HOE, you seem inexperienced to me. You banned me for just coming in with the name Cancer+. That seems newbish to me. That was because of personal reason and because of the way poeple use it in my country.
Samapico Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Which kind of proves his point... Banning for personnal reasons isn't the most professional thing to do
»doc flabby Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Staff abuse starts at the top. If the higher ups in staff abuse it will filter down to the lower staff members. There should be a clear separation of power between moderating and banning. Moderators are allowed short bans but the ban coordinator decides if a ban is valid and for what time it should be made. There should also be a clear banning policy in place. So that people can only be banned for specific things, and you should *warn people before banning them for the majority of offences, to allow them a chance to correct their behavior. A system like this tends to work well. Owner ||-Head Sysop/smod (in charge or recuiting staff,discipline,training) ||----Dev Team ||-------Ban coordinator (smod) (l3+)|L-----Moderators (l4 bang) -------Non-bang moderators & other staff
Dta Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) Okay... Lemme take a little defensive stance here. I'll address some of the bigger 'concerns' they had. It's amazing how !@#$%^&*onearth keeps calling me 'inexperienced' over and over again. To make everyone aware, !@#$%^&*onearth had picked me to take his spot. What do you think 2 days would have made a difference? (He was fired 2 days before he was quitting) It's true about all the under staff quitting at one time, but when I talked to them, they all agreed to come back. Does that make me such a horrible person? As for my age, yes, I'm 14 years old, but I don't think age matters here, it's how you do your job. Also, Skywize, you're voted best mod because it was the public voting. No one sees what goes on behind the curtain, how does the public think the mods got trained to host? I'm not saying you're a bad mod here, you were good at hosting and other things. This will be my only post here. - Death?to?all Edited August 10, 2007 by Dta
bigcheifhitmybong Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 I have to put in some word here. For one, the only way DS will ever die is if viligante decides to hand the zone over to someone else. I've seen DS go through this before about 3 years ago, with names I shall not mention. But they pulled through. !@#$%^&*onearth and Skywize thought it would be awesome to get the public of DS involved. So I decided to host some events to pull them away from public. After that failed for them they started recruiting people out of Halo into a chat and advertising for MG. Skywize thought he was going to get his way and viligante was for sure going to ask him to join staff again, because he !@#$%^&*umes he's the !@#$%^&*. Little did he know that viligante will not put up with abusers and bad staff members. The zone is very well still alive. We got everything under control yesterday before viligante even came back online. (Everything we could handle) and we still get as big of a population as we did before. !@#$%^&*onearth and Skywize all you did was make fools of yourselves, and you had to drag other people down with you.
sil Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) that was a pretty nice and calm post dta considering all the flaming directed to you. good luck to you. just stay calm and clear headed and I'm sureyou'll do fine. Edited August 10, 2007 by sil
RedWaller Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 hi guys, watch me not..Give a !@#$%^&*.
Skywize Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Posted August 10, 2007 Okay... Lemme take a little defensive stance here. I'll address some of the bigger 'concerns' they had. It's amazing how !@#$%^&*onearth keeps calling me 'inexperienced' over and over again. To make everyone aware, !@#$%^&*onearth had picked me to take his spot. What do you think 2 days would have made a difference? (He was fired 2 days before he was quitting) It's true about all the under staff quitting at one time, but when I talked to them, they all agreed to come back. Does that make me such a horrible person? As for my age, yes, I'm 14 years old, but I don't think age matters here, it's how you do your job. Also, Skywize, you're voted best mod because it was the public voting. No one sees what goes on behind the curtain, how does the public think the mods got trained to host? I'm not saying you're a bad mod here, you were good at hosting and other things. This will be my only post here. - Death?to?all You can lie all you want DTA, fact is, you ARE innexperienced. Thats why you couldnt control the zone until Fly came around to save your butt. You have absolutely no idea what you are doing. You have NO social skills, you berate anyone who doesnt agree with you. I was voted the best, because I am, or was. You can claim "Behind the scenes activity" all you want, doesnt make it true at all. There was a reason that both of the times I quit that staff, the owner and all the sysops BEGGED me to come back. You are just too young, inexperienced, ignorant, and foolish to realize anything outside of your small dark world.
Dta Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 I know I said I'd only post once... If I am as 'inexperienced' as you say... Why did !@#$%^&*onearth pick me? He could have picked someone else. Me and BigC had the zone under control fine. Fly*boy was extra help. I'm not going to argue if I'm lying or not... For there is no need. The players will believe whoever they want.There was a reason that both of the times I quit that staff, the owner and all the sysops BEGGED me to come back. You are just too young, inexperienced, ignorant, and foolish to realize anything outside of your small dark world. Yes, because you were a good mod, I don't deny that, but do you remember the reasons you left? You left because !@#$%^&*onearth removed a silence you put on. Overacted a tad there, eh?
Skywize Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Posted August 10, 2007 The Desert Storm staff has now gone to the point of blatantly lying about me on their website now, www.zoneds.net. I was given a screenshot today showing the front page of their site, and it states: "Today, after the dust was settled and things were under control in-game, Skywize had evaded his IP ban, and brought a friend named STINGY**** to tag along. They once again posted a bunch of crap in the forums. While they may think this is funny, it is a very serious thing. By byp!@#$%^&*ing his ban, Skywize made an attack on the site. Attacks on this site will not go on without retaliation. And all attacks on this site will be taken seriously." Etc etc etc. Apparently, Shran and his complete incompetence at being a Webmaster, has decided to point fingers at someone else. I did not byp!@#$%^&* any ban, and I certainly did not "attack" their website. Unless by attack, they mean me posting to the forums. And unless by ban, they mean changing my signature line, because thats all that he did. I even posted about it. As for the "friend", I have no idea who the person is, probably another in the long line of people who know the truth. This staff continues to show their sad, pathetic ignorance towards all things. I truly feel sorry for them sometimes. Keep trying Henk, Shran, DTA. We will just continue laughing at you.
Gravitron Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Hooray for the most corrupt zone in ss history!Not by a long shot.
rootbear75 Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) this is funny:Shran: I'd caution you all to stop Trash Talking dta like that. Criticizm is fine. But may I remind you insulting staff is a bannable offense in-game. I just don't wanna see anyone banned. :S09-08-2007 4:34:pminsulting staff is a bannable offense? OMG SHRAN! YOUR A DUMB!@#$%^&* LOL omg im banned... oooh well.... who gives a crap anyways?other zones have scrabble lolz...only good thing in DS ^^ Edited August 10, 2007 by rootbear75
CRe Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 DS has officially been awarded CURRUPT ZONE OF THE YEAR AWARD
Cancer+ Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 It seems to me that DTA is taking this pretty good and acting very mature about it. He is doing good job in his defense. hi guys, watch me not..Give a !@#$%^&*. Then why are you in this thread?
Shran Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) The Desert Storm staff has now gone to the point of blatantly lying about me on their website now, www.zoneds.net. I was given a screenshot today showing the front page of their site/ Apparently, Shran and his complete incompetence at being a Webmaster, has decided to point fingers at someone else. I did not byp!@#$%^&* any ban, and I certainly did not "attack" their website. Unless by attack, they mean me posting to the forums. And unless by ban, they mean changing my signature line, because thats all that he did. I even posted about it. As for the "friend", I have no idea who the person is, probably another in the long line of people who know the truth. This staff continues to show their sad, pathetic ignorance towards all things. I truly feel sorry for them sometimes. Keep trying Henk, Shran, DTA. We will just continue laughing at you. Even after you've been banned from the Zone AND Site, you continue to act like you're all that and have a angry mob behind you ready to charge into DS and do something dramatic. Your arrogance must be bliss. And who's "we"? Half the people on here disagreed with you. And you're obviously deceptive by nature but still fail to succeed at it. Trying to turn Amphibious, 2pacalypse, and who knows else against Viligante proves that. All the staff you turned against Viligante came to their senses after getting the actual truth from Death?to?all. You start riots, it's what you're good at. And you still think you're above everyone else, just like you did the first time I saw your application on the old DS Forums. I knew you were trouble the second I saw that thread filled with your usual arrogance. And to my dismay, staff hired you. I should have pointed certain aspects of that application out to Staff, while you were a Probation Mod. Sadly I made the mistake of not bringing it up and letting you stink up the zone with all of your arrogance and deception. And you left everyone quite a mess to clean up after the last stunt you pulled. Knowing you, I'm sure you're proud of yourself. After you ended up rallying up some of your old friends and silencing me a month or two ago, I could not wait to see you fired and banned. But once again I decided I just wanted you monitored and warned, as I wasn't out to make anyone miserable like you. That was mistake number two. You believe everything you do is the right thing and you automatically expect people to follow you on whatever silly conquest you're on. And you claim that the truth is all lies while you bring up your own version of it on different forums if you don't win on someone else's. I think it's time someone showed your true colors on these forums. I have a bunch of screen shots of our little chat this morning below. Note: Below there is cussing, I am to blame for that. But after dealing with him on the site yesterday, hearing from him this morning was the last thing I needed to brighten my day. Screenshot 1http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4673/screenshot88wb8.th.pngAs you can see the the players have already recovered from Sky's mess yesterday. But the nightmare continues into the morning for me. Screenshot 2http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5192/screenshot92jk8.th.png I like how he had nothing to say for a while after telling him my site has a record of his IP info, nullifying any argument he has about me lieing on the site. About 2 minutes later he decides to BS his way out of that one with "That's nice. Get a clue."! Oh and Skywize, this did make it to the forums. If the Administrators want his IP info from the site via screen shots to prove that he lies out of his teeth, then by all means I'll send you some so you can run a IP trace and match his IP here. That's all for now, I have things to do. Nice chatting with you again Skywize, have a lovely day. Oh, and as for the comments by rootbear go, it is a rule from what I am told. Not that it's ever been enforced in ages. But Dta was taking so much !@#$%^&* from everyone I had to say something. So if keeping a lid on a riot makes me a dumb!@#$%^&* then so be it. Criticize if you want, I'm used to it by now. And for those who are saying the zone is corrupt, I think you need to get your glasses checked because the zone is now % corrupt free. HoE was known as Sargent Strict for his way of dealing with players. I experienced it first hand before I became a Dev. Also, Skywize was the kind of person to ban first and ask questions later. 2 of the most corrupt Moderators are now gone. Edited August 10, 2007 by Shran
CRe Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 Woops: Thought you were Tiq lol. I agree with Shran. Skywize, doing this is not going to help you at all.
Skywize Posted August 10, 2007 Author Report Posted August 10, 2007 The Desert Storm staff has now gone to the point of blatantly lying about me on their website now, www.zoneds.net. I was given a screenshot today showing the front page of their site/ Apparently, Shran and his complete incompetence at being a Webmaster, has decided to point fingers at someone else. I did not byp!@#$%^&* any ban, and I certainly did not "attack" their website. Unless by attack, they mean me posting to the forums. And unless by ban, they mean changing my signature line, because thats all that he did. I even posted about it. As for the "friend", I have no idea who the person is, probably another in the long line of people who know the truth. This staff continues to show their sad, pathetic ignorance towards all things. I truly feel sorry for them sometimes. Keep trying Henk, Shran, DTA. We will just continue laughing at you. Even after you've been banned from the Zone AND Site, you continue to act like you're all that and have a angry mob behind you ready to charge into DS and do something dramatic. Your arrogance must be bliss. And who's "we"? Half the people on here disagreed with you. And you're obviously deceptive by nature but still fail to succeed at it. Trying to turn Amphibious, 2pacalypse, and who knows else against Viligante proves that. All the staff you turned against Viligante came to their senses after getting the actual truth from Death?to?all. You start riots, it's what you're good at. And you still think you're above everyone else, just like you did the first time I saw your application on the old DS Forums. I knew you were trouble the second I saw that thread filled with your usual arrogance. And to my dismay, staff hired you. I should have pointed certain aspects of that application out to Staff, while you were a Probation Mod. Sadly I made the mistake of not bringing it up and letting you stink up the zone with all of your arrogance and deception. And you left everyone quite a mess to clean up after the last stunt you pulled. Knowing you, I'm sure you're proud of yourself. After you ended up rallying up some of your old friends and silencing me a month or two ago, I could not wait to see you fired and banned. But once again I decided I just wanted you monitored and warned, as I wasn't out to make anyone miserable like you. That was mistake number two. You believe everything you do is the right thing and you automatically expect people to follow you on whatever silly conquest you're on. And you claim that the truth is all lies while you bring up your own version of it on different forums if you don't win on someone else's. I think it's time someone showed your true colors on these forums. I have a bunch of screen shots of our little chat this morning below. Note: Below there is cussing, I am to blame for that. But after dealing with him on the site yesterday, hearing from him this morning was the last thing I needed to brighten my day. Screenshot 1http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4673/screenshot88wb8.th.pngAs you can see the the players have already recovered from Sky's mess yesterday. But the nightmare continues into the morning for me. Screenshot 2http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5192/screenshot92jk8.th.png I like how he had nothing to say for a while after telling him my site has a record of his IP info, nullifying any argument he has about me lieing on the site. About 2 minutes later he decides to BS his way out of that one with "That's nice. Get a clue."! Oh and Skywize, this did make it to the forums. If the Administrators want his IP info from the site via screen shots to prove that he lies out of his teeth, then by all means I'll send you some so you can run a IP trace and match his IP here. That's all for now, I have things to do. Nice chatting with you again Skywize, have a lovely day. Oh, and as for the comments by rootbear go, it is a rule from what I am told. Not that it's ever been enforced in ages. But Dta was taking so much !@#$%^&* from everyone I had to say something. So if keeping a lid on a riot makes me a dumb!@#$%^&* then so be it. Criticize if you want, I'm used to it by now. And for those who are saying the zone is corrupt, I think you need to get your glasses checked because the zone is now % corrupt free. HoE was known as Sargent Strict for his way of dealing with players. I experienced it first hand before I became a Dev. Also, Skywize was the kind of person to ban first and ask questions later. 2 of the most corrupt Moderators are now gone. LOL You post screenshots of me asking you to stop lying about me, and thats me acting like theres an angry mob? You REALLY need to reevaluate your words. Seriously. Not once in those screenshots did I act innappropriately, though you did, and continue to do so. As for half the people here not agreeing, I'd like to know how you do your math. I've seen other zone Sysops laughing at DS, I've seen the majority of the people posting here stating the same, or similar things as I and others have. How much further can you inflate your ego? Its already past the blowing point Oh, and no one believes a word DTA said, they just dont want to fight the ban happy higher staff about it. Creamy: I'm not trying to help myself or anyone else. I'm simply pointing out the sad truths.
Shran Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 LOL You post screenshots of me asking you to stop lying about me, and thats me acting like theres an angry mob? You REALLY need to reevaluate your words. Seriously. Not once in those screenshots did I act innappropriately, though you did, and continue to do so. As for half the people here not agreeing, I'd like to know how you do your math. I've seen other zone Sysops laughing at DS, I've seen the majority of the people posting here stating the same, or similar things as I and others have. How much further can you inflate your ego? Its already past the blowing point Oh, and no one believes a word DTA said, they just dont want to fight the ban happy higher staff about it. Creamy: I'm not trying to help myself or anyone else. I'm simply pointing out the sad truths. First off, quoting my entire post was unnecessary and wasted perfectly good forum space. Secondly, when will you stop? You're like the twisted version of the Energizer Bunny that has nothing better to do than torment people and lie to make others look bad all day. What is your obsession here? You got fired for perfectly good reasons and when you fail to turn people against the zone in one forum you go to another. I am starting to see why most DS Staff stop replying on these forums. With people like you it's pointless. And you obviously have nothing better to do than sit here and moan and groan all day. I have stuff to get done and luckily it's just map work for now, otherwise I wouldn't be sitting at this cpu right now playing this stupid game with you on Mr. Righteous vs the Evil Corporation. The act is getting old, stop convincing yourself of your own lies and blaming others for your actions. It's really getting old Skywize.
Hellonearth Posted August 10, 2007 Report Posted August 10, 2007 (edited) It's amazing how !@#$%^&*onearth keeps calling me 'inexperienced' over and over again. To make everyone aware, !@#$%^&*onearth had picked me to take his spot. What do you think 2 days would have made a difference? (He was fired 2 days before he was quitting) Little correction dta, i reccomanded you at first, then withdrawed that becuase i noticed a change in your behavior, you stopped hosting, you started crying about everything and you started right away with "Im the new co-staff coord you noobs listen to me im the best!". To bad i could not tell this to vili (well i could but i forgot since hes always on during night time for me), as far for this DTA you got ALOT to do. Edited August 10, 2007 by Hellonearth
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