Tiq Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 People who spout racism on SS do it simply to generate controversy, and for the shock value. I don't know about anyone else, but for me, seeing people going wild and crazy with those terms is kind of outdated. These are guys typing those terms for the sake of typing them. No other motivation. Yet these same people are the ones who walk around their neighborhoods, shoulders hunched, afraid to make eye contact with anyone. Whether or not they are racists is irrelevant. They see the internet (more specifically, ss in this case) as an outlet for what they are too afraid to say in real life. These are the people who only speak their minds in text form, on flat screens. If you put everyone in ss in a single room, no screens, then you would be able to tell the difference between those who are stubbornly stupid, and those who are chill. These fellas have more insecurities than the average individual, and as their insecurities manifest themselves in the form of vulgar or "shocking" comments, not necessarily directed towards particular individuals. And if they are targeting certain individuals, it is for one reason: those individuals represent that which the "racists" fear, but want to be. Of course, I expect every "racist" to disagree with that !@#$%^&*ertion, and disagree loudly. The fact of the matter is, their willingness to annoy or shock or anger people is directly related to their own insecurities. !@#$%^&*onearth is probably too willing to ban people, but !@#$%^&*, I'd be willing to ban people who go out of their way to test my patience. The aggression is necessary sometimes. Plus, I don't know DS staff, so I could care less about how they operate, but in this case, I would have probably done the same thing. And root, you went in there knowing what happened to the last person who did the #nic thing. Did you really think that testing the patience of a particularly volatile staffer even more would generate a different reaction?
rootbear75 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 even though i found the reason valid for tizzy's kill/ban/whatever, that doesn't explain why both me and x'terr were kill/banned just for going into #nic... i haven't had a past of "breaking rules" in ds (not sure about x'terr however)i just went in there to see, if anything, what would happen... obviously going into the arena #nic has become a bannable offense
Dav Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 root you are not banned. You were just *killed to get you out of the arena and that is all. as far as x' terr goes I don't know what happened. Tiq is right about 1 thing though. Going to that arena just to see what happened isn't helping matters at all.
Sass Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 (edited) This is particularly philisophical: And if they are targeting certain individuals, it is for one reason: those individuals represent that which the "racists" fear, but want to be. I have to ponder it as I'm not racist, have to test it against other factors. Hmm. Yes, I think you are right about that...that seems to be clearly the reason for so much hate. But it doesn't explain something: why does a teenage kid vandalize, spam, or harm other kids (usually much younger) for apparently no reason? Does this philosophy cover that? I think there is a breed of people who are naturally born as bad for society....but I dunno. Edited July 26, 2007 by Sass
X`terrania Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 (edited) It looks fragmented? No, it isn't, there isn't a single thing taken out of that either. Stop trying to deny everything and begin to realize that you are the people who are at fault, your whole zone is full of of stupid kids, including yourself, Dav. o n ya dav, i didnt do anything else to get banned off from the zone, no one even messaged me or anything at all. Edited July 26, 2007 by X`terrania
Sass Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 Stop trying to deny everything and begin to realize that you are the people who are at fault, your whole zone is full of of stupid kids, including yourself, Dav. Heh, isn't that the kettle calling the frying pan black. Ease off X'Terr and stop trying to provoke a fight.
X`terrania Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 It's X`terr, and I'm not provoking anything. You're just upset because I destroyed you on that other board.
Sass Posted July 26, 2007 Report Posted July 26, 2007 (edited) rofl, nice try ... stupid kid Edited July 26, 2007 by Sass
Tizzy Posted July 26, 2007 Author Report Posted July 26, 2007 and why the !@#$%^&* are you going all out on me smarties?! Told you, hes a re!@#$%^&*, like most DS staff. Tizzy i kindly request you stop trying to get your five minutes of fame and think about this for a second. 1. It is well known DS has anti racism rules. For some unknown reason many people seem to think because they disagree with teem they are exempt and/or doing something a little different won't count. I think by now there have been enough incidents and explanations to demonstrate that there is no racism in the zone and that is final. It is clear you did not follow this rule and so you received a ban. As i have said many times on this matter. You don't have to agree with the rules, all we ask is that they are respected. 2. You come here, post a far from complete account of what occurred to make someone else look like the bad guy in all this. I personally cant see what part of this sounds like a good idea. This sort of corrupt and selfish way of thinking that we seem to see all to often is a stain on this game which is otherwise full of community spirited people. 3. If you have a complaint please come to me or another sysop first. It is what we are all here for. By throwing something straight into the public spotlight you have ignored all of the best ways to solve any problem you have encounterd with the DS staff. I know it was always you intention to provoke then place this here but i thought this point was relevant as it is another reason why this is nothing more then stupidity. Now with all this out in the open can I ask why? This looks like attention seeking to me. You take a controversial rule, break it to get a ban, remove the real reason for it in your accounts and post it in the main forum for the game. If that isn't going to draw attention I am not quite sure what will. @root not 100% sure why you were *killed, haven't been in the zone this morning as I'm off to work as soon as I finish posting this. Ill look at it later but I suspect it has something to do with discouraging a trend of people entering the zone and sitting in ?go #nic or the fact that it is annoying. Nevertheless it was only a *kill to empty the arena . Uh.. no and no. 1) Ok I'm banned anyways and whatever I say won't change that, but why was rootbear banned or even just disconnected for 1 second for? no warnings, he just got disconnected by !@#$%^&*onwhatever.Oh wait, I think I just made a new racist word in DS, ITS NIC. 2) Its a thread to show what great work DS staff is doing, don't get offended. 3) I do talk to other staffs when I know a staff member is wrong but Witchie NL didn't agree to Skywize's logic just because Skywize was a lower level staff compared to Witchie. I ask for a higher staff member but than he bans me. GJ. Do you have a problem with me posting it here? why don't you come ban me on this forums as well like you did with me in DS forums? Haha you said 'You take a controversial rule, break it to get a ban, remove the real reason for it in your accounts and post it in the main forum for the game', what was the REAL REASON I removed?
Samapico Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 The real reason was being in #!@#$%^&* and #nigcer and #nig or whatever... sigh just shut up will you 2) Its a thread to show what great work DS staff is doing, don't get offended.OOOOH YES, HE SAID NICE DAY, BUT HE COVERED WITH RAIN, HE SAID THE OPPOSITE, HE FUNNY! OHOH!
Hellonearth Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 Tizzy as far as ive read, every sing staffer/zone owner agree's with me on the ban. Only IDIOTS like you think its unfair Rootbear was kicked because he read your post here so he knew dam well that he shouldnt go there End of discussionGG, go find a diff zone that you can cry about same for you X`terr ohyeah this ones for you tizzy :wave!@#$%^&*:
»freakmonger Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 pfft come to MG, I welcome a racist conversation lol
X`terrania Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) :0 Main reason why I love MG, at least some of the staff there can have some fun. Remember when the NLers weren't in DS? And it was a fun zone? And wait a minute, who is !@#$%^&*onearth anyways? He just came out of nowhere and suddenly he's smod at ds? Edited July 27, 2007 by X`terrania
Slicer Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 I thought I'd add my two cents.. or pennies.. since I'm English it really should be pennies because it does not make much sense it being cents now. ANYWAY Tizzy is just one of those who likes to cause trouble, deserves the ban and now should just shut up (or a better way of spending your time is to GO WATCH THE NEW SIMPSONS MOVIE OUT TODAY! WAHOO) yeah... !@#$%^&*onearth looks to me as a bit of an idiot aswell, he got played by Tizzy, !@#$%^&* just ignore the fool. Unless your a big famous black guy with a mohawk you should then pity the fool and avoid drinking Milk, which I always though was a racist thing with him...X's ban is not right, should be removed and whoever banned him should be slapped in the face with a giant Kidney Trout several times until they smell of fish. Also we should all go watch the Simpsons movie out today, Spider-Pig, Spider-pig does what ever a Spider-pig can!
Dav Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 X'terr's ban i will sort out later, currently there is no evidence to show that his account is false, and so my suspicions are false. As a result ill be removing the ban when I get home from work unless anyone has logs to suggest otherwise (TBH if they did id have seen them by now though). As far as the accusations towards staff go, yes a few of them can be hot headed, it is the reason why I took the ban admin job and rewrote the book on how bans are done. The ban on x'terr is not by the book which is why it will be lifted. Thankfully these incidents are quite infrequent now and when they do occur I usually deal with them quite quickly. I'm not going to start axing the staff in question, they do a bloody good job when it comes to their specialty in the zone and I'm not going to lose that over an incident started by someone intentionally causing trouble. @slicer. Watch Transformers. Saw the preview showings on sunday and it was awsome.
rootbear75 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) Also we should all go watch the Simpsons movie out today, Spider-Pig, Spider-pig does what ever a Spider-pig can!im going to lol... waiting for my budy to get off of work to go see it already saw transformers however... and !@#$%^&*, the point is that me entering #nic should do nothing. I didnt pester you nor your staffing buddies. I sat in #nic to see what would happen, and lo and behold, i got *killed with no warning.What you SHOULD have done, was let me sit there. Cause then you wouldn't have this "trend" of people going to go and sit there. Smart move, dummy. Edited July 27, 2007 by rootbear75
Tizzy Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Posted July 27, 2007 The real reason was being in #!@#$%^&* and #nigcer and #nig or whatever... sigh just shut up will you Wow thanks for pointing out the obvious, I'm talking about Rootbear's ban now you moron. Tizzy as far as ive read, every sing staffer/zone owner agree's with me on the ban. Only IDIOTS like you think its unfair Rootbear was kicked because he read your post here so he knew dam well that he shouldnt go there End of discussionGG, go find a diff zone that you can cry about same for you X`terr ohyeah this ones for you tizzy :wave!@#$%^&*: .. Ok so you banned someone for going into #nic just because he READ one of my posts? and that he did not go into #!@#$%^&*? LOL RE!@#$%^&*ED. I don't know why you NL'ers are so sensitive about the N word, not like a black person will be entering some stupid 30 man zone. X'terr's ban i will sort out later, currently there is no evidence to show that his account is false, and so my suspicions are false. As a result ill be removing the ban when I get home from work unless anyone has logs to suggest otherwise (TBH if they did id have seen them by now though). As far as the accusations towards staff go, yes a few of them can be hot headed, it is the reason why I took the ban admin job and rewrote the book on how bans are done. The ban on x'terr is not by the book which is why it will be lifted. Thankfully these incidents are quite infrequent now and when they do occur I usually deal with them quite quickly. I'm not going to start axing the staff in question, they do a bloody good job when it comes to their specialty in the zone and I'm not going to lose that over an incident started by someone intentionally causing trouble. @slicer. Watch Transformers. Saw the preview showings on sunday and it was awsome. I don't know why you need to remove the ban.DS staff members (like !@#$%^&*onearth) are so great and I think they will never make a mistake by banning someone for something.
Sass Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 Someone please close this topic already or send it to the trash forums.
sil Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 I'm talking about Rootbear's ban now you moron. He wasn't banned, he was killed to be kicked out of the arena as you cannot force people through commands to leave otherwise. Learn to not be an idiot and actually comprehend what you read.
rootbear75 Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) I'm talking about Rootbear's ban now you moron.i wasnt banned, im just mad that he kicked me out for no reason.. i was happily afk-ing in there when i came back to find i had been kicked Edited July 27, 2007 by rootbear75
Tizzy Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Posted July 27, 2007 I'm talking about Rootbear's ban now you moron. He wasn't banned, he was killed to be kicked out of the arena as you cannot force people through commands to leave otherwise. Learn to not be an idiot and actually comprehend what you read. Its basically the same thing except that his only lasted 1 second, and still that was for being in #nic, which had nothing to do with racism if he didnt go #!@#$%^&* before. Learn to not be a re!@#$%^&* and mind your own business.
sil Posted July 27, 2007 Report Posted July 27, 2007 Its basically the same thing except that his only lasted 1 second, and still that was for being in #nic, which had nothing to do with racism if he didnt go #!@#$%^&* before. Learn to not be a re!@#$%^&* and mind your own business.They are quite far from being the same thing. But that is beside the point. Think of it this way, the mods are like the police of their respective zones. They are the law for their zone. Sometimes they uphold it correct, sometimes they don't. But if you test the patience of an officer, you better believe you are gonna feel the backlash from it. What he did was knowning push that officers buttons by going into that arena and afk'd so of course he was going to get *killed to kick him out of the arena. As I said before, there is no command to force a player to another arena. As for the mind your own business comment, you posted in a public forum. You are asking for people to butt in. If you don't like the comments then don't start stupid topics looking for attention.
Tizzy Posted July 27, 2007 Author Report Posted July 27, 2007 (edited) Its basically the same thing except that his only lasted 1 second, and still that was for being in #nic, which had nothing to do with racism if he didnt go #!@#$%^&* before. Learn to not be a re!@#$%^&* and mind your own business.They are quite far from being the same thing. But that is beside the point. Think of it this way, the mods are like the police of their respective zones. They are the law for their zone. Sometimes they uphold it correct, sometimes they don't. But if you test the patience of an officer, you better believe you are gonna feel the backlash from it. What he did was knowning push that officers buttons by going into that arena and afk'd so of course he was going to get *killed to kick him out of the arena. As I said before, there is no command to force a player to another arena. As for the mind your own business comment, you posted in a public forum. You are asking for people to butt in. If you don't like the comments then don't start stupid topics looking for attention. You want to explain the difference instead of just saying they are different? What zone do you play sil? I think I'm going to ?go #nic and test the patience of the officers. I wouldn't be posting here if DS can get decent forums that works. I don't see how stupid this topic is, explain this too? Edited July 27, 2007 by Tizzy
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