AhmedF

[»freakmonger]

Just refer to this topic on subspace.net

 

The discussion about subspace.net starts on page 2 I think.

 

http://forums.sscentral.com/index.php?showtopic=12697

[Gravitron]

Ahmef > all of you newbies.

 

GG.

[NBVegita]

Ahmef > all of you newbies.

 

Now there is something amusing.

 

I just have a hard time respecting someone paying in the realm or above $5000.00 for a domain that is non business related. If I heard someone in the SS community paid the same amount to get it back from him I'd have just as little respect for them.

 

No matter how much money you have there are many other better things to do with $5000.00.

 

If you have a ton of money and need to spend it somehow, at least buy a mcdonalds, or a pizza hut, or a senator for that matter.

[Gravitron]

You are right.

On that note, Priit spent a lot of money, and time (which for him = money), on this stupid game hence you disrespect him as well.

In his place, I would net ban you, since you believe he's worthy of disrespect for that and it would spare you the hypocrity of playing the game he helped support so generously.

 

Personally, after all the !@#$%^&* taken from numbnuts like you, in Ahmed's place, I would've sold the domain to those startrek fruitcakes who were offering a couple dozen grand for it.

But I guess he's a better person than you and me.

Edited July 24, 2007 by Ori Klein

[NBVegita]

Sometimes there really isn't a thin line between ignorance and stupidity.

 

I've never har!@#$%^&*ed ahmedf about his domain. In fact I specifically said that he owns it and can do what he wants with it.

 

Second buying a domain name for a free game at a rediculously high price vs creating said game are on two completely different events with vastly different constraints. If I actually need to waste time explaining that further for you, it won't be worth my time.

 

I would actually have more respect for him if he had sold it to someone for a higher price, at least that would show business sense.

 

Tone down your e-!@#$%^&*.

[»doc flabby]

Its not a simple redirect. typing in http://subspace.net, keeps subspace.net in the address bar. A better redirect would be one to rename subspace.net to galacticmelee.com I'm not sure if redirecting the domain, in a way which keep "subspace.net" at the top for every page you visit is going to have the effect intended. It looks weird and people are going to think the site is dodgy.

 

I'm not sure if Rak'kar would have wanted you to redirect the domain. He's keen to get some alpha testers, and attract interest in the game from Subspace players, by "appearing" to hijack the domain is only going to harm his reputation, and turn away the people he wants to attract.

 

However it doesnt really matter what subspace.net points to, the domain is increasingly irrelevant...

[Gravitron]

Priit didn't create the game.

GG on ignorance and stupidty.

 

I would frag you on the first count as well, but it's too easy and no lulz in it.

 

When you have enough money to spend around, something like investing in supporting a game you enjoy very much (at the time) doesn't seem like a waste.

But I guess a poor plebian like you would find it difficult to grasp.

Then again, I've never been in a situation whereas I earn less than even Cerium's pizza delivery bike service...perhaps we should establish a "help vegita put food on his plate" fund.

[NBVegita]

!@#$%^&* if you guys want to start a fund to give me money I'm all for it. Please give Veg money, Veg likes money

 

No Prit didn't create subspace, but he did do a large part of the creation of continuum, so being he is the co-creator of what subspace has become it wasn't too off of a statement. I'm sorry for insulting Prit by !@#$%^&*ociating him with VIE.

 

As for calling me a plebian, I'll actually take that as a complement. Plebians are middle class - lower class people. I am not upper class lol and I highly doubt that many, if any people in the "subspace universe" can be considered "upper class" by financial means. I'm perfectly happy being middle class, even in rome plebians could gain considerable weath and pull, quite a lot of plebians actually became senators in rome, while still being middle class. In fact I dare say that the united states has been built by the middle class. Being middle class still gives you the ability to make large sums of money, and yet still have a family. There are some things in life worth more than a seven digit paycheck. I personally enjoy only working 8-5, having my weekends off, not having to work over time, not having to leave my family and home to travel all over the country for the sake of a job I'd most likely hate.

 

BTW when can I start seeing revenue from that fund?

Edited July 24, 2007 by NBVegita

[rootbear75]

i wanna know why someone doesn't just buy continuum.net ?

(i would say continuum.com but its owned by a Wash. DC company)

 

edit: never mind... its registered... why the !@#$%^&* was godaddy telling me it was available?!

 

edit2: its on backorder for 19 bucks :/

 

edit3: continuum.us anyone?

Edited July 25, 2007 by rootbear75

[Gravitron]

Plebians were slaves, servants and were kept ignorant and bore.

Priit is not the co-owner of SubSpace, BDE's owners are the sole owners.

You insulted Priit not by !@#$%^&*ociating him with VIE rather by saying he doesn't deserve any respect because he spent money on this game, same as Ahmed.

I'm done with you, novice.

[NBVegita]

As for ignorance maybe you should research just what a pleb was, as pleb has never been synonymous with slavery of any kind. Pick up a book, then come discuss its meaning with me.

 

I've never stated that Prit is co-owner of subspace, rather I stated that he is the co-owner of continuum. On second thought maybe you should pick up an audio book, as you have made it apparent that you have difficulty reading.

 

Also as you have tried to over exaggerate my words, there is a difference between spending thousands on something that is, and has been proven, virtually useless to the game subspace/continuum, and spending money on something that is actually helping and or advancing the game. Continuum is not run for free, lots of people have spent time and money on this game. Time and money are what keeps this game running. subspace.net being !@#$%^&*ociated with subspace/continuum has had a nominal effect in both cases.

 

You are very poor at attempting to misconstrue my words.

[Hakaku]

You guys can sort of stop arguing over it. While it's true the domain subspace.net has been around for ages, and has always pointing to this game, there's nothing we can do about it. Ahmed's unlikely to change his mind. And as Doc Flabby said, the domain has gotten more useless. Unfortunately many websites still point towards subspace.net , but most of 'em are old and outdated (reviews). Google dropped http://subspace.net from its search results a while back, so no harm's done.

[PoLiX]

To get to the point...

 

Subspace.net is useless to us. Before the sale, we updated all the links we could find to it from gaming sites to SSCentral.com or SSDownloads.com. Subspace.net was down, so it was decided to do so, !@#$%^&*, some point to ssforum.net. So any that still point to the ssnet domain, we can fix, or are not needed.

 

The only thing he'll get is players going down memory lane, who'll find subspace is "gone" and won't return. The important domain is Subspacehq, not Subspace.net. The domain that was featured on ZDNet; Linked on IGN, Gamepro, etc.; and that was the main site of all the old news stories and new players. Yes, subspace.net kept alive longer, and brought more traffic in its later days, but beyond that, if anyone was to still find our game by these stories or anything, they'd end up there.

 

So really, whining about needing subspace.net back is pointless, as SubspaceHQ was the site for Subspace as we knew it. Subspace.net was the site for continuum, as it mostly began getting a lot of its traffic around this time. Sadly, SSHQ has been lost, and it is what we should really focus on retrieving in the future.

[rootbear75]

has anyone thought of simply asking for subspacehq.com back from whoever took it?

[»Maverick]

I think it's in the hands of one of those companies that buy up loads of domains to gain advertising profit from it.

 

I checked it and it's:

[whois.fabulous.com]

 

Domain subspacehq.com:

WebManagement SA

Century Tower, Piso 4, Office 401

Panama City, PA 000 PA

 

Administrative contact:

Technical contact:

Billing contact:

WebManagement SA

Martin Milagros

admin@wmanage.com

Century Tower, Piso 4, Office 401

Panama City, PA 000 PA

Phone: +507.2793290

Fax:

 

Record dates:

Record created on: 2005-08-15 18:06:15 UTC

Record modified on: 2007-06-13 01:45:50 UTC

Record expires on: 2007-08-15 UTC

 

Nameservers:

ns1.fastpark.net:

206.130.11.197

ns2.fastpark.net:

216.8.177.29

[X`terrania]

Has anyone tried calling that number?

[rootbear75]

@Mav, thats why i asked if someone wants to simply ask to get it back. Odds are they say no, but they might be nice enough to let go of 1 site

 

want me to email them and see what it would take to get it back?

Edited July 27, 2007 by rootbear75

[AhmedF]

Darn - such strong language. Afk crying for a second

 

$5000 is not a lot of money. Or well - again, it depends on the relative overall value. Really - I know a lot of people who have spent hours playing this game. You should perhaps value your time more.

 

Its nice that Vegita can disagree with me, but also realize that it is my property and I can do what I want with it.

 

The SS.net direct was a quick one I had my server admin do as I was busy (moving). I will soon put up a simple page.

 

The domain gets a couple hundred hits a day. !@#$%^&* it is in the menu bar of Continuum. Google dropped ss.net as I parked it - once unparked it will get back in there no problemo

 

Anyway - its cute I got my own !@#$%^&*le for a post. Huzzah.

[L.C.]

Or well - again, it depends on the relative overall value.

Or simply where you live.

[rootbear75]

Or simply where you live.

like if you live in New York where everything is overpriced, then sure, 5 grand isnt much.

but go out to the boonies, like where L.C. lives, and 5 grand becomes a lot

[Reaver]

Everyone should just relax. What he's really doing here is a favor for us. Anyone with any sense is going to look at his obvious negativity towards continuum/subspace on subspace.net and in turn check out continuum. All the people with little sense will just take the words there as gold and check out galaticmelee. It's a win win situation for us, free advertising and more importantly, we'll be getting people with higher intelligence whereas they'll be getting all the sheep.

[rootbear75]

reaver has a point

[Hakaku]

Not really, what SubSpace needs at this point is new players. Older players will find the site and be smart about it. But newer players won't even know SS, so they'll move on to the next best thing. - So these sheep are what make the game, they're what made SubSpace from the beginning, not necessarily the smart people.

 

Anyhow, anyone tried contacting the people of subspacehq.com yet?

[rootbear75]

no, i asked if you wanted me too

no one answered

 

EDIT: BTW, it looks as if the domain expires on the 15th

Record expires on: 2007-08-15 UTC

 

EDIT: Sign my pe!@#$%^&*ion: http://www.pe!@#$%^&*iononlin...^&*ion.html

im going to send a link for it once i get some signatures.

 

EDIT: Sent an email.

To Mr. Milagros:

 

We have found that the webiste http://www.subspacehq.com/ was bought up by your company WebManagement SA. The Subspace Community would like the website back since it was the main central site for the game Subspace/Continuum. If there is some way you could transfer this one site over to us' date=' we would be extremely grateful.

I will be away for the rest of the week, but I do hope to hear back from you.

 

Sincerely,

Josh Brahms, and the Subspace/Continuum Community[/quote']

Edited August 1, 2007 by rootbear75

[Gravitron]

You send a suit something like this then you basically signal/announce: we're desperate, we need the website, please try to squeeze us for money.

Never let someone know there's a demand for something they hold for profit, casually approach and suggest you may do them a favor and pick it off their hands.

 

Good job failing.

Please attend buissness school 101.

 

Next time, try to sound a little bit more like a little 13 YO who likes his game and would like his game's old website back instead of a potential wallet market target.

SSHQ is basically screwed now.

He now knows we exist, and whenever if someone from here try to contact them for the website they'll try to shake us down for money, of course we won't pay squat over $10, so there's the end of that.

Edited August 2, 2007 by Ori Klein