Enforcement of Rules appears to be null

[9vgnc3eZ01]

I was on a team, we had a 100k jp ready, and all of a sudden certain people spec glitched our flags, tradekilled it to a different team, and immediately won the game. There were two mods in HS when this happened, Bomook and Muskrat_24. So I used the command ?cheater in hopes that these guys get stopped.

 

So the cheaters got fined, the flags returned to us, and everything went back to normal, right?

 

Wrong. Instead, the mods did a great job of apparently being afk and not giving a rip about enforcing rules. The cheating was blantant, obvious, and really just plain cheap. I mean, spec glitching a 100k jp because our defense was better than the other team? Anyone think that's a bit overdoing it?

 

It's not the money from the jp that matters. (EDIT:In fact, I made 27k, so it really isn't money that's the issue) It's the cheating behind that. If you guys enforce nothing, then cheaters will notice and the rule breaking will only get worse.

 

I'm not saying all you staffers don't enforce rules. But what is the point of moderators of they can't even moderate when it's needed? Should I really get a false sense of enforcement here?

 

And I better not see these cheaters convincing you some other whimsical story. Everyone playing the game knew what happened, and with mods there at the time I would expect there is no confusion between the lies.

 

And finally, I'm just annoyed they got away with that. However, I made this post right after it happened, so perhaps there is a way to verify what they did and enforce what should be enforced? I will not be ridiculous about what I want from this, as long as merely enforcing rules isn't that.

 

Thanks, I guess?

Edited June 18, 2007 by Relos

[Sention]

lol

[Afroman]

Hi

[Sention]

And I better not see these cheaters convincing you some other whimsical story. Everyone playing the game knew what happened,

 

I guess they didn't because there was no trade killing involved.

 

No one is to blame here but yourself and, of course, Loveshack.

[Suicide_Run]

Heya Afroman, Welcome to Complain Fest 2007 June Addition. We got more upcoming stories in the future!

 

Wrong. Instead, the mods did a great job of apparently being afk and not giving a rip about enforcing rules.

Aren't you being a hypocrite right there? If they are afk, how can they enforce the rules? lol

 

Also, Musk came after that stuff happened since Bomook was the only person on ?listmod when that had happen.

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Heya Afroman, Welcome to Complain Fest 2007 June Addition. We got more upcoming stories in the future!

 

Wrong. Instead, the mods did a great job of apparently being afk and not giving a rip about enforcing rules.

Aren't you being a hypocrite right there? If they are afk, how can they enforce the rules? lol

 

Also, Musk came after that stuff happened since Bomook was the only person on ?listmod when that had happen.

If I don't want to mod I wouldn't be on in the first place. So they being there doen't make sense, though it still means they had to decide if they were going to follow their job or not. They seemed to decide that HS doesn't need to be moderated at the time, though maybe they never thought of cheaters making their move then. I have to at least give them that, lol.

 

Musk came later? Alright then, it's not his problem, then. Nothing more to say on that part of it.

[Sention]

Ok, so mods should never be allowed to afk, is that right? God forbid these mods have a life... I mean, thats why we pay them to be mods, right? Ohh wait, they do it for free.

 

CASO CERRADO!

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Ok, so mods should never be allowed to afk, is that right? God forbid these mods have a life... I mean, thats why we pay them to be mods, right? Ohh wait, they do it for free.

 

CASO CERRADO!

If mods don't feel like modding, and just want to be afk, (EDIT:Aka because they have a life) get them off HS. They can do this because they do it for free, right? Though the cheaters will still get away with it, I will at least not the ?cheater command pointlessly. =/

Edited June 18, 2007 by Relos

[Sention]

Read the last two words of my post once more.

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Read the last two words of my post once more.

Caso Cerrado is all I haven't replied to, because I don't know it's meaning anyway. Lol?

Edited June 18, 2007 by Relos

[Evil Doom]

ok... as i see it... ur saying mook is a bad mod for being afk when people are cheating... well... why didnt you make a thread saying what happened and see if anything could be done about it... mods have logs and stuff of things that happen... so mook could have helped you after he came back... but you go on ranting about him being a bad mod for going afk... you wanna pay him to stay online all the time? i didn;t think so...

 

If i were mook i would ignore you and help the rest of your team only... cuz they way your acting it seems like ur a kid... if your mad about cheaters... so what... mods will look after it when they can...

 

So gl getting help bud... cuz i know if i were in mooks position and u were ranting about me... i wouldn;t be too enthusiastic to help you! Next time dont be like "OMG SOME1 SPEC GLITCHED ME, U MODS WERE AFK, U MODS CANT MOD!!!!"

 

gg

[Sharpflame]

Wow nooby complaining about a flag game... sigh, get on with your life!

 

The mods were away, they just spec to make it look like people shouldn't do bad things.

 

Hehe, the first thing you said was "100k jp" so you're whining because you didn't win it, from what I see.

 

 

Dangit, Deathboy-Evil, Quigybobo, and all you other mods who were not on at the time. I cannot believe you crappy mods who don't stare at the screen all day banning people for wrongdoing. You should be ashamed.

 

 

 

EDIT: I feel sorry for all the mods getting this trash talk lately... I hope these guys aren't serious, and just trying to make an excuse to whine about for attention.

Edited June 18, 2007 by Sharpflame

[Evil Doom]

they aren't getting attention rly... just a bad rep

[Sharpflame]

Or the bad kind of attention where they get mean looks IRL... lol

[Dr Brain]

Muskrat is a dev, not a mod, and mook is perma-afk. I'd be surprised if anything DID get done.

[Muskrat]

Umm, Relos, perhaps if you didn't go afk immediately griping at the mods you would have seen that I banned the guy. Idiot...

[9vgnc3eZ01]

ESSAY: RELATION TO CHEATING AND FUN AND HS AND ...

(Weeeeeeeeeeeee ... Yay for pathetic !@#$%^&*le!)

 

You guys completely brush away my points. I'm frustrated of the cheating, and I *thought* mods didn't care at the time. That's it. I realize with a more clear head that it's to make it look like you should not brake rules. That's all I needed on that point. However, I still think the rules need to be enforced. Maybe you guys think "Cheating is ok because it's just a game, and we should be able to hack whenever we please". However, I play this game because I try to have fun, and I DO think there should rules to protect this "fun" we try to have. Isn't that what a game is, to have some fun?

 

Cheating however, is just a one or a few people's way of having fun, more often so when they are in a condition called boredom. When cheating occurs, the cheaters have lots of fun, sure, but the victims of the cheating can get very frustrated. The victims often tend to be of larger quan!@#$%^&*ies than the cheaters in question. Therefore, the next best solution is to allow the majority to have fun, and do justice to the ones degrading the "fun" we are trying to get. In the end, the majority of people have fun, instead of a small minority that's left.

 

Therefore, I would conclude that cheating is not acceptable, as doing such actions normally create a minority that are having fun. Hyperspace is an attempt for people to have fun. Not all people like this type of fun, but the goal of HS is to make the best possible fun for those who do. HS Staff is there to make sure the fun levels stay up, right? Some work on creating new things/items, which is one way to increase fun, while others maintain fun by keeping these "cheaters" in check and out of the way.

 

Bomook was doing just fine, I realise. It's the fantasy (not what really happened, the fantasy) of what I thought he did (ignore cheaters because he didn't care, my fantasy) that made me post this. I will assume that that is real case, anyway, and therefore not be annoying beyond reasoning. That's pver with, then. Nextly, though, is that this issue needs resolving. I don't know if it already did (some tell me it has), but as long as it isn't ignored I will be fine. And if you're wondering

why it shouldn't be ignored, read the whole post over and you should understand why.

 

All I was trying to say is 3 things:

1. HS is an attempt to allow certain people who like the style to have fun

2. Cheating usually conflicts with what the majority considers fun, therefore should not be allowed

3. I may have misunderstood what was happening, and I won't regret being wrong, so don't kill me plz ._.

 

 

That's probably all I got to say.

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Umm, Relos, perhaps if you didn't go afk immediately griping at the mods you would have seen that I banned the guy. Idiot...

 

3. I may have misunderstood what was happening, and I won't regret being wrong, so don't kill me plz ._.

 

It is obvious I have mis-understood the situation. Please forgive my inexperience of how staff does things in these situations, and I will make efforts to not repeat the same mistake (for death threats from a majority of people will then come). Feel free to lock or delete this topic at your whim.

 

I need to post more helpful guides to HS and less meaningless rants, but you didn't read this

Edited June 19, 2007 by Relos

[Muskrat]

Well it's okay to criticize, I'm the last person to say you can't. Just don't assume, even though you probably would have been right on any other day.

 

To your credit, I know that often we aren't there and I'm sorry for that. We all are. If we thought that hiring more mods would solve more problems than create them, well by gum we would.

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Thanks Muskrat.

[Fat Cat]

This thread shall not be closed until mook apoligizes for being afk

[Rareitanium]

Mook will eat ur soul with his ferret-ness.

 

Fat Cat < Ferrets, therefore, Fate Cat + Mook = Dead Cat.