NBVegita Posted June 8, 2007 Report Posted June 8, 2007 Why trying for the record? lol It's not normally a good thing to staff more than one zone. In fact when I ran staff for the 17th, years ago, if I found someone to be double staffing, I would terminate their posistion. That didn't include dev posistions.
Dav Posted June 8, 2007 Report Posted June 8, 2007 Zones i have staffed have had the same policy which I have held onto. One is my rec.
»freakmonger Posted June 8, 2007 Report Posted June 8, 2007 You have to put a stipulation about what a "zone" is. As I've said many times, any monkey with an internet connection and access to shanky.com/server can setup a zone. I see this in a lot of staff applications: Zones you have staffed in before: I have staffed in 20 zones, dcdd m&ms, DTS crazyball, DFD supersonic, , I have also owned 4 zones. My point is none of the zones that they would list had a population of 60+. So if you are going to ask "how many zones have you staffed in at ONE time" you would need to state what a "zone" is. Because "staffing" or "owning" a zone that doesn't have a pop of at least 30 players isn't a "zone" in *my* book.
Synook Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 Because "staffing" or "owning" a zone that doesn't have a pop of at least 30 players isn't a "zone" in *my* book.Wonder if SSCI Devastation counts then...
Hakaku Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 Because "staffing" or "owning" a zone that doesn't have a pop of at least 30 players isn't a "zone" in *my* book.Wonder if SSCI Devastation counts then... That leaves only these as real zones then:1. SSCU Trench Wars2. SSCU Extreme Games3. SSCU Death Star Battle* *(possibly doesn't meet the quota) All other zones had less than 30 (remove bots, speccers, and voilà, 3 zones). So technically, no one's staffed in a 'real' zone. If the pop isn't consistent of 30+ active players, then it's not a zone right? -- But if inconsistencies are allowed, then a lot more zones meet the quota (including Devastation which has hit over 30 pop)
»doc flabby Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 I double staff i guess as I am staff in TW, but i have a pretty much hands off role in PSS (ie im only involved when something breaks)
ThunderJam Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Not only ssc zones should count (as long as the non-scc still had pop), the biller i could think of that was legitimate enough was ssz. I'd say any zone with 20+ average pop at anytime is really worth taking into consideration. Maybe even 15. As far as how many STAFFED at once, i donno but i have been done DEVELOPMENT for as many as like 5-6 at once. Im currently making stuff for LC, gauntlet, chaos, starwars, and fusion is looking for me again. Edited June 9, 2007 by ThunderJam
PoLiX Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 EG, TW, and MG all at once. That count for anything? I guess I have the most top SSC zones staffed at once?
Dav Posted June 9, 2007 Report Posted June 9, 2007 Ture TJ SSZ was a good EG. I should have said "and a select few non SSC zones"
BlueGoku Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Because "staffing" or "owning" a zone that doesn't have a pop of at least 30 players isn't a "zone" in *my* book.Wonder if SSCI Devastation counts then... That leaves only these as real zones then:1. SSCU Trench Wars2. SSCU Extreme Games3. SSCU Death Star Battle* *(possibly doesn't meet the quota) All other zones had less than 30 (remove bots, speccers, and voilà, 3 zones). So technically, no one's staffed in a 'real' zone. If the pop isn't consistent of 30+ active players, then it's not a zone right? -- But if inconsistencies are allowed, then a lot more zones meet the quota (including Devastation which has hit over 30 pop) Eh? HZ is on ASSS so that means the population that you see is the amount of -live- players that are in the zone. We average about 70 prime time, more when our league isn't in its offseason. As for the original topic: I've staffed a few zones. Started as a mod in HZ in, I think, 02 and I eventually was handed the zone in early 2005. I was a ref and then an SMod in Premier league and an SMod in dueling zone. Actually, I was the Head Moderator in HZ at the same time that I was the Events Coordinator in Premier and the 2v2 League Coordinator in Dueling Zone. And both (well, all 3 if you don't count DZ and Prem as one zone, which they basically are nowadays) are rather large zones. After a while I had to pick one cause I couldn't actively staff all 3 obviously, and HZ was my #1 choice since thats where I started and hung out mostly. So there's my SSC resume, basically, hehe. I guess I have the most upper-staff positions held at once in top SSC zones? =p
Hakaku Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 Eh? HZ is on ASSS so that means the population that you see is the amount of -live- players that are in the zone. We average about 70 prime time, more when our league isn't in its offseason.If you read what I said... constant population of over 30... At the time I checked, HZ had only 6. And at the time I post this, 34. So wherever you got 70 from is definitely not an average pop.
BlueGoku Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 I would hope NO ONE thinks population means -constant- people in the zone playing, since that has more to do with your server and type of gameplay (as in, do you need 12 players for a game to be properly played or can you start a game with 2 people and wind up having a bunch after a while?) For example, HZ is never going to have 30 people playing at 3 AM because while we've got a decently large sized euro community, they don't all play at the same time, much like every other demographic of any zone. Your statement on inconsistencies implies that since Devastation, at one point, hit 30 players it would meet the quota. So basically you grouped up zones that average 70 players at prime time with a zone that has, at one point, had over 30 players in it. Not that I'm bashing Devastation here, I've played it before and it's fun, but grouping it with a zone that was the first player created zone to be hosted on the official VIE servers in the same "not real zones" category is.. yeah. I did read what you said, I just chose to ignore the part which happened to be completely anal and nonsensical.
Hakaku Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 I'm not grouping Deva anywhere, you did. Constant=always 30+, Average=close to 30 or more at all times, Average daily peak=average of players on at best times. Deva's just a zone capable of attaining 30+pop, just like most other small zones. And if you re-read this quote:Because "staffing" or "owning" a zone that doesn't have a pop of at least 30 players isn't a "zone" in *my* book.It doesn't define how to interpret a 'pop of atleast 30', so that's up to you. Anyhow, a zone is a zone, and that definition can't be changed in the end. I don't say I agree with freakmonger
»freakmonger Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 well I wouldn't say constant because ppl have lives. I was just throwing something out there to prove a point that you have to define a 'zone' to start with. I've seen too many ppl try to define a zone as if someone just setup the default cfg file and a blank map, and called that a zone. But if you're going to go with the 'max pop', then pull up the stats site and look for zones that have reached 90+ players in the last year or two.
Suicide_Run Posted June 10, 2007 Report Posted June 10, 2007 You guys should consider that some zones has tons of bots while others have hardly any. For example, some zones practically runs off bots like MK with their constant 7-8 bot+ while other zones have less bots. (Not saying that MK is bad or anything) Also, dont forget that theres afkers that practically sits in a zone for the whole day and only plays for like 5-10 minutes or other staff members . Sure the zone can have 20+ pop, but I dont think its that great of an achievement if that 20+ pop is basically 75% bots/staff members/afkers. I personally staffed in only 1 zone at a time cause some zone owners have issues with you playing/staffing in other zones while your staffing in theirs.
X`terrania Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 Yeah, if you're staff in a zone like tw (200+ pop), and staff in another zone that only has an avg of 5-10 people on a Friday night, I'd let it slide.
rootbear75 Posted June 11, 2007 Author Report Posted June 11, 2007 wow... why is it whenever i post a simple question or story, it turns into a whole another discussion?
Cancer+ Posted June 11, 2007 Report Posted June 11, 2007 Just curious... Why would you want to staff in many zones? Instead of giving all of your attention to one zone, you divide it up into many and your ideas just wouldnt be that good. Personally, if I ever was/ever will be an OFFICIAL (the pop card) zone owner, my staff would not be allowed to double staff.
rootbear75 Posted June 11, 2007 Author Report Posted June 11, 2007 well, unfortunately, the zones i am in don't require too much attention
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