Fields: Changes Needed

[DaRuler]

Well, I'm starting a topic to discuss the growing use of fields in this zone. I have a few problems with fields, mostly being used to base. Here are some of my points:

 

1. Fields are only used by "Vets" as we seem to call them, or really rich people who have thousands to spare at will. This makes attacking a team of "Vets" very difficult when they spam fields, which is very unfair. This leads me to my second point.

 

2. Fields get spammed in bases and I've seen 3 and 4 overlapped, so it really is impossible to get by them. One big field is enough as it is, when put down in the right area of a base, but 3 or 4? Give me a break.

 

3. Fields are starting to get used like bricks were, but they are a !@#$%^&* of a lot worse. I'd rather have the old bricks reinstated, then continue with this absurd amount of lameness.

 

4. I've heard people say that they are just used to stall a team temporarily, but that's B.S. because of the above. Item Whoring is out of control.

 

5. I'm sure the people with over 2 million dollars in their account will have no problem with fields, because they are the spammers. So, just a heads up. Look at the names who post about this topic.

 

That's all I got for ya. Thanks for reading.

[»Ceiu]

You seemed to have left out the part about how to fix these problems.

 

Look at it this way:

For each person spamming a field, that's one less person with the following: AD, Cobalt or a 10m item.

[DaRuler]

You seemed to have left out the part about how to fix these problems.

 

Look at it this way:

For each person spamming a field, that's one less person with the following: AD, Cobalt or a 10m item.

 

How do you figure? All the rich people who spam fields have AD. And last I heard Cobalts aren't working. I don't know how to fix it, but I'm stating that it is a problem and needs to be somehow. Perhaps not being able to overlap fields would be a start. Maybe limiting amount of fields active per freq? If that's possible?

[Kilo]

Maybe you didn't realize you can only have one alien tech.

[DaRuler]

That doesn't mean anything is what I'm saying. Fields are fields, they are worse than ad when 4 people spam them.

[Sharpflame]

Well, I'm starting a topic to discuss the growing use of fields in this zone. I have a few problems with fields, mostly being used to base. Here are some of my points:

 

1. Fields are only used by "Vets" as we seem to call them, or really rich people who have thousands to spare at will. This makes attacking a team of "Vets" very difficult when they spam fields, which is very unfair. This leads me to my second point.

 

2. Fields get spammed in bases and I've seen 3 and 4 overlapped, so it really is impossible to get by them. One big field is enough as it is, when put down in the right area of a base, but 3 or 4? Give me a break.

 

3. Fields are starting to get used like bricks were, but they are a !@#$%^&* of a lot worse. I'd rather have the old bricks reinstated, then continue with this absurd amount of lameness.

 

4. I've heard people say that they are just used to stall a team temporarily, but that's B.S. because of the above. Item Whoring is out of control.

 

5. I'm sure the people with over 2 million dollars in their account will have no problem with fields, because they are the spammers. So, just a heads up. Look at the names who post about this topic.

 

That's all I got for ya. Thanks for reading.

 

1) I can use fields with 3k in my account, so

 

2)If they're spammed like that, dont go into them?

 

3)Fields are probably less useful than the bricks, seeing as the longest lasting ones are easy to get through, and they wont completly stop anyone from going through like a brick.

 

4)Yeah, they're used to stop a team as a defense or attack. Got a problem? All weapons can do that. 1k per field, PLUS 20k just to use ANY makes it hard to "!@#$%^&*" these items.

 

5)Nobody has 2 million in their account except the mods XD... <.< >.> Though I may be mistaken.

Edited June 5, 2007 by Sharpflame

[DaRuler]

I was just suggesting that they make it so they dont overlap. But you being one of the biggest field users Im not surprised by your post no offense lol =P

[»Ceiu]

I disagree. Not only does it require a special trip to sector 4 to purchase another field, but it means the launcher can be removed from battle for 3+ seconds when killed (rather than of 1.5 thanks to AD) AND requires a safe lanc to return on.

 

Because of those reasons, I've never seen any team actually spam fields unless they were just messing around. Serious teams may have one player dedicated to using them, but since AD tends to be more generally useful in basing, that's typically about it. Plus, as I said before: Each trip to sector 4 is more time spent not supporting your team -- which is simply not possible for an entire team to do en mass

[9vgnc3eZ01]

Well, if you got a macro and TW pass I think it's quite fast. It may look different on paper, but in the battle 3-4 fields can really screw the opponent.

[Boldot]

I use fields quite a lot while basing, and frankly, Im probably going to stop. Not because they are lame or whatnot, I love using them. The problem I have with fields, is that by using them, I often times lose money for the flagging game rather than earn anything. Most people who have the money for it, will go for AD on their ship rather than field launcher, which to me is much more powerful. Because of this, I'm ususally the only one on the freq who uses fields. Rarely have I been on a freq when someone else uses them more than as a passing fancy (I believe I was on Ceriums freq when that was.)

 

And btw, ID drive is faster to get there than the TW usually. And honestly, I've only seen 1 or 2 other people really use them effectively. If there is a problem with fields, its a very minor one that doesn't need to be fixed immediatly.

Edited June 5, 2007 by Boldot

[»Ceiu]

Indeed. Infact, last night I threw about 30-35k at Sention in the form of fields. The only thing I accomplished was that I severely annoyed him and his team for about 20 minutes before giving them the win.

 

Fields can be annoying, but that's all they are. They can be clutch if you can get in the perfect position at the perfect time -- but that in itself is a challenge and is rarely done. In most cases it just creates a region that both teams will hover around and occasionally try to rocket through, without giving it a whole lot of thought.

[cdrom]

fields are fine, they do nothing except stall time and waste cash, if theres a field on u just move the lancs and levis wont die since fields are so weak, and the only way to spam fields is to get a safe lanc in 4.

[Suicide_Run]

Spamming fields requires tons of money which leads to spending tons of time on a game. Why shouldn't a person who spends more time on a game, have the privilege to do something that a person who spends not as much cant do?

 

Besides, if people on freq A can spam fields, why cant people on freq B spam fields either? I am pretty sure at least 1 person on any full basing freq can field. Its just they choose not to cause of the money they would use for so little gain.

 

Yes, a stacking of 4 fields is pretty dam annoying and powerful. But that just makes 4 people without ad, which they could have used to slip p!@#$%^&* your rushers.

[Sharpflame]

I've decided to make a field pro/con list.

 

Pros:

Comes in different versions for every use.

Useful to hurt the enemy through walls

Useful in any base

Usable on any ship

 

Cons:

Must go to 4 to buy one

Must have a field launcher

1k Each

Leave team alone while you go to buy your field.

 

Hm. 4 Pros. 4 Cons.

 

Obviously, balanced.

Edited June 6, 2007 by Sharpflame

[James1293]

i think they are fine how they are. the overlapping 4 case is rare.

[DaRuler]

Well, I guess I just base at the wrong times eh

[Choose Profile]

i think fields should cost $1 and should be buyable anywhere. also each field should last 25 minutes, and thousands of them can overlap in the same exact spot. Just as well, for $2, you can buy omega fields which cover the entire map and do 800 dmg per second.

[Sharpflame]

rofl

 

 

Now d1 goes to work creating those fields for his own personal use

[cdrom]

yeah lol

 

<----lies

Sharpflame> ?id c

 

ID engine failure! Your atoms are scattered across the known universe!

Zephoid b(5010:1) killed by:

ipwn(2000) killed by:

Sharpflame(11) killed by:

 

Zephoid b> sharp, u keep that up, and il go to mining again..

 

 

Sharpflame> id the turret FTW!!!

 

Sharpflame> ?id c

 

ID engine failure! Your atoms are scattered across the known universe!

got bounty?(1200) killed by:

3vil(1910) killed by:

d3ath(6000) killed by:

Sention(1210) killed by:

Sharpflame(11) killed by:

XGenocideX(1110) killed by:

[James1293]

i think fields should cost $1 and should be buyable anywhere. also each field should last 25 minutes, and thousands of them can overlap in the same exact spot. Just as well, for $2, you can buy omega fields which cover the entire map and do 800 dmg per second.

omg rofl yeah

[cdrom]

fields stink case closed

[Masaru]

I'd rather have AD than a Field Launcher.

[James1293]

I'd rather have AD than a Field Launcher.

ok if i magically get 230k while i plan on buying a field launcher, i'll agree

[Suicide_Run]

Thats why you save money for it instead of spending it.

[cdrom]

spending money is fun, its so much easier to buy something u dont need than to save for like 2 days for something u dont