Sharpflame Posted May 28, 2007 Report Posted May 28, 2007 Water Bomb Level 3 bomb, no prox. 2 or 3 Shrap, a reasonable delay with a reasonable bomb fire energy. I just thought of this, because I realized that Javs are becoming endangered and they need a nice defense. +Javs dont have many guns +It seems javs are slower now? Also, I wanted to add, why exactly is string of pearls on a Jav? Why antimatter on a levi? They aren't exactly the type to use guns over bombs. Quote
Suicide_Run Posted May 28, 2007 Report Posted May 28, 2007 Water Bomb is no different from Falcon since all bombs deal same dmg. Wat do u mean y they are on? o.o They are bomb preferred ships which means bomb type weapons can be used on it. Quote
Masaru Posted May 28, 2007 Report Posted May 28, 2007 I'll bring back the Jav brigade using Falcon and Shrap booster. The only thing that needs to be changed is limit what ships can buy Shrap booster. Every ship with lv3 shrap and falcon is annoying and unnecessary. Quote
James1293 Posted May 28, 2007 Report Posted May 28, 2007 (edited) Also, I wanted to add, why exactly is string of pearls on a Jav? Why antimatter on a levi? They aren't exactly the type to use guns over bombs.More compatibility is a good thing, isnt it? and antimatter on a levi is definitely good-they are the only ships that are good with them: antimatters have crap-shrap on wzls and lancs should be able to bombline. actually if it was brought back for terr that would be nice (Got Bounty has antimatters on his terr from when u could get them for terr...) why were they taken off of terr? I'll bring back the Jav brigade using Falcon and Shrap booster. The only thing that needs to be changed is limit what ships can buy Shrap booster. Every ship with lv3 shrap and falcon is annoying and unnecessary.But thats the whole point of shrap booster... its supposed to be poor quality, only good for nice shrap... maybe if it just had a SUPERSUPER high nrg use (or high delay), it would be more fair cause it would be virtually no good as a gun Edited May 28, 2007 by James1293 Quote
Sharpflame Posted May 29, 2007 Author Report Posted May 29, 2007 James, you said that levi would be better with antimatter? How is that? Levis don't increase shrapnel. Quote
James1293 Posted May 29, 2007 Report Posted May 29, 2007 i meant that levi is the only good ship for antimatter right now (tho terr should be able to get it...like it used to... but i didnt have the money then...) because wzl doesn't have good shrap while using it (...or in general) and lancs need to be able to bombline in bases. Quote
cdrom Posted May 30, 2007 Report Posted May 30, 2007 not really, levi has great bombs, by taking them away theyre practically useless(aka single fire gun, super low speed) and wzls can use antimatter to mine in base and antimatter on lancs are great for turrets Quote
Sharpflame Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Posted May 31, 2007 Antimatter on terr, ftw. Shark antimatter mines, anyone? Quote
cdrom Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 moab on lanc ftw? they're supposed to be mothership so why cant they have l3 bombs and guns together? Quote
James1293 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 (edited) not really, levi has great bombs, by taking them away theyre practically useless(aka single fire gun, super low speed) and wzls can use antimatter to mine in base and antimatter on lancs are great for turretswzls using it in base? but it has low shrap when used on wzl, doesnt seem like it would be much use...and as for lancs, my lanc is for bases, not turrets, so i can't use it for that either my point. my other point:they should also be on terrs. moab on lanc ftw? they're supposed to be mothership so why cant they have l3 bombs and guns together?levi is supposed to be the only ship with L3 bombs, though wzl has emp shockwave...so this giving-of-L3-bombs-to-levi-only isnt really correct. EDIT: though lancs should have more nrg, they are weak for being "zee mothership"wow i've said that on like 5 posts now lol Edited May 31, 2007 by James1293 Quote
Boldot Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 The use of antimatter mines by a weasel would not be for damage mostly. It would be to EMP the people trying to rush into the base, get damaged by the shrapnel, and slaughtered by the defenses when when they show up EMP'ed at half energy. Antimatter mines do seem a bit underused atm, but when they were available on terr, the HT's became near useless as 2-3 terrs would set up barricades all over the place, and with L3 shrap very little would be able to survive them. If they were to be made available to more ships (namely 5 and they should have their energy cost reduced, and their shrap greatly reduced (and perhaps even delay...). As far as an L3 bomb on jav, I would love to see it happen. Something with a slight bit more delay than HE with near the same energy use. Wouldn't need shrap or prox, and could use a good number of mines. I wouldn't have this bomb just on the jav, buy would give it to the levi too (shock matrix anyone?) Quote
James1293 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 antimatters are kinda underused, but thats good in some ways. most of the time when they are used (in center) they annoy everyone and are very effective. If more ppl used it, another limitation of some sort would have to be applied; i think that it is fine how it is right now. Those terr lamers haver ruined my terr that would have antimatter right now Quote
Suicide_Run Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 You should have saw it coming james. Its like how retro spider lamed it to a point where retro had to be removed from spider. Im wonder....why cant vertex armor be used for other ships? That would allow center only ships not die as fast against the ever growing high-speed shred terrs. Quote
James1293 Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 I never used retro spider tho. I wouldnt have used this technique either. Vertex on other ships? i was wondering the same thing Quote
cdrom Posted May 31, 2007 Report Posted May 31, 2007 its good antimatter is underused, have u seen today? 3 lancs on TEAM CANADA were pwning center for like 30 min and cp got over to 500 bty if he wasnt stupid enough to stay away from his own mines Quote
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