LiDDiS Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) Redwaller told me a funny little joke today: Yo are u crazy?, Yesterday, 10:45 PM Don't you know I'm gonna win this, why would you make yourself a target. jw, have fun wink.gif Edited May 23, 2007 by LiDDiS
RedWaller Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) Im jw dawg, didn't someone tell you? Yo for realz tho, quit trying to sab me, its kinda annoying as fuk getting all those pages of spam lol. Edited May 23, 2007 by RedWaller
Falcoknight Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 Youre only going to win it if you have the troop number.(Which, looking at the pages, you may if no one with any more troops than you tries to bank and crap until the end like you. Doesnt matter if you have the money to buy 100,000 of the best items, if you only have 40,000 troops, then you're only going to get the rank points for 40,000 of those weapons. Besides, winning your way (I'm !@#$%^&*uming you're banking then buying a !@#$%^&*load at the end) isn't really anything to be proud of, all you do is sit there and press the "Deposit" button over and over again until the last hour before the round ends. Staying in the top 5 for 90% of the round > being number one for the last hour.
RedWaller Posted May 23, 2007 Report Posted May 23, 2007 I was in the top 5 for 50% of this, then you !@#$%^&*holes sabbed me lol.
LiDDiS Posted May 23, 2007 Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 Im jw dawg, didn't someone tell you? Yo for realz tho, quit trying to sab me, its kinda annoying as fuk getting all those pages of spam lol. You're a hardcore cyber-thug, huh?
Dav Posted May 24, 2007 Report Posted May 24, 2007 Red said he is gonna win the round so penis clan declare him target number 1 and lame the crap out of him. Thats the joke.
Falcoknight Posted May 24, 2007 Report Posted May 24, 2007 So basically in the last moments of the round Red will be massed by half a dozen lower ranked Penis members and lose his number one spot =P
RedWaller Posted May 24, 2007 Report Posted May 24, 2007 They cant beat me so they resort to noob tactics. Laff.
Falcoknight Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I won't do it, but there are plenty who will.I'm actually really surprised the only thing that happened to me was sabs... Even if you can only attack 5 times, someone with a bunch of levis probably could have taken out 700-1000 of my troops. We'll see how it turns out Red ^^
RedWaller Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 Yeah, It won't matter. Go ahead piss me off enough and Il send all 10billion over to dav and other sscentral god members who have the resources to win this. Laff
Aileron Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I have a surefire way of winning this round. My plan is to announce the winning clans by a rank per capita method.
Animate Dreams Posted May 25, 2007 Report Posted May 25, 2007 I have a surefire way of winning this round. My plan is to announce the winning clans by a rank per capita method. Kinda like last round, when you "accidentally" said Suicide_Run was in SSCentral Gods? Quit fooling yourself, SSCentral Gods has yet to get anywhere in this game. Aileron, you have no experience with these games. First off, let's look at this quote: "Frankly, I have serious doubts of it being possible for anyone other than myself to reach #1 in any ship.", from this topic: http://forums.sscentral.com/index.php?showtopic=14845 . This is such a ridiculous statement, and it clearly shows your obvious lack of knowledge AND experience. Also keep in mind that the only reason you were able to get as far as you are now is because you drastically lowered the number of attacks per day AND re-added the armysize limit on attacking that you took out at the beginning of the round. But I think you can stop talking about winning anything now... no one's going to believe you, anyway. I still don't know wtf you were trying to do with THIS quote: "I didn't realise that this core doesn't have a limit to prevent people from attacking with couple hundred poorly armed troops as it should."( http://forums.sscentral.com/index.php?showtopic=14952 ), since we pretty much all played last round and we remember when it did have an attack limit, and we can see that it again is implemented. Under normal cir!@#$%^&*stances I'd flat out call you on a lie, but you're not fool enough to believe anyone would've fallen for it. Besides, winning your way (I'm !@#$%^&*uming you're banking then buying a !@#$%^&*load at the end) isn't really anything to be proud of, all you do is sit there and press the "Deposit" button over and over again until the last hour before the round ends. Yeah, it's gay, but it IS the way to win, since Aileron refuses to take out the broken banking system. Knowledge is power, after all, and when people don't know how much money you have you can surprise them at the end. Unless, of course, that person is Aileron, who will just look up your bank account. But that's another matter.
Aileron Posted May 26, 2007 Report Posted May 26, 2007 Yay, I don't even have a position of real authority yet and I've already got a conspiracy theorist. But apparently I have something close because I have someone who's on the clan which is kicking !@#$%^&* whining to staff for me to make changes in order to enable his clan to kick even more !@#$%^&*. Do you think I am going to spend several hours sitting down manually calculating stats when everyone knows who the top three are anyway? It was a JOKE you idiot. Grow a sense of humor. Posting SR's name in the wrong clan was a mistake. For the previous two months he was in SSCentralGods and I didn't bother to check. The first quote was bragging/taunting. Kind of like what Redwaller and LiDDiS are doing right now. Again, grow a sense of humor. The second quote was poorly written. The core has a limit based upon army size, but not one based upon army strength. Even with the army size limit in place, you can attack with a couple troops with a handfull of attackers while the rest of your army is !@#$%^&*igned to defense. At the beginning of this round I removed the super savings account! Next round I'll remove bank income entirely! I even considered adding a deposit or withdrawel fees, but some people like the bank. But, you have no right to say that I'm not fixing the broken banking system because I am doing everything in my power to fix it short of resetting everyone's bank account mid-round. As for the other post where you accused me of being a !@#$%^&*, you didn't notice a very profound compliment I gave you guys. A !@#$%^&* will assume that his clan should win and everyone else's victories are the results of bad settings. I said that Penis clan's victory would have come in perfect settings and thus I have a difficulty determining what wasn't supposed to happen and what was. Most of the other people in your clan noticed that it was a compliment, but you are angry and !@#$%^&*umed it was an insult. But, in round two the winners were the ones who exploited the super savings account. That was removed for the next round.In round three the winners were the ones who got their friends to transfer a lot of stuff to them. That was removed for the next round.In round four the winners were the ones who overpopulated the field got their weak friends to constantly m!@#$%^&* their enemies.
Suicide_Run Posted May 26, 2007 Report Posted May 26, 2007 Um....for your information aile. I was never part of SSCentralGods clan at all to begin with. Not the previous 2 months, not ever since the game started, not ever will I be. The other clan that I have been is ForumKillers which was run by Chambahs/Mike. Dunno how you made that mistake but yea. Anyways, just to let you know. In round two, the winners was those who has the most troops since super savings gave twice or more that what they normally produce and with a mix of transfer. Super Savings wasnt removed next round For round three, winners will people who found about the little thing with the edited super savings. Super Savings and Transfer was removed for next round For round four, you cant really determine anything yet really. Since I can see that Dav have been sitting there alot and m!@#$%^&* buying mercs it seems. I think he has the most troops which usually leads to being the winner cause more troops = more weapons to wield. And im also sure a small chunk of the population has a huge overwhelming amount of money in their banks waiting to cash it out for last minute buying. Further more, I think the last 4 rounds pretty much isnt real rounds. More like beta testing. Now I think about it, you might as well remove bank completely. That way, people wont flame each other because they unbank right at the end and buy all their items last minute.
Animate Dreams Posted May 26, 2007 Report Posted May 26, 2007 Yay, I don't even have a position of real authority yet and I've already got a conspiracy theorist. But apparently I have something close because I have someone who's on the clan which is kicking !@#$%^&* whining to staff for me to make changes in order to enable his clan to kick even more !@#$%^&*. If you're talking about me, every single suggestion I've given has worked directly against my own strategy. I made the suggestion AND used it as my own strategy both for the same reason - it was broken and way too strong. For example, I suggested bank be removed. It wasn't, so I abused the !@#$%^&* out of it. I'm no scrub - I'm not going to stop myself from doing something because it's cheap, I'm just going to request it be removed. But when I'm playing to win, I'm going to do whatever it takes to win. When I told you splitting everyone between two squads wasn't going to work, it's not because I wanted to protect my massive Penis, it was because IT'S NOT GOING TO !@#$%^&*ING WORK. But you ignored me again, so it looks like there's going to be another huge exploit next round. Seriously, anyone with the slightest knowledge of how to play the social aspects of strategy games will be able to rape people next round. Though, I will admit, that possibility is almost enough to make me want to play again next round. Do you think I am going to spend several hours sitting down manually calculating stats when everyone knows who the top three are anyway? It was a JOKE you idiot. Grow a sense of humor. Posting SR's name in the wrong clan was a mistake. For the previous two months he was in SSCentralGods and I didn't bother to check. Another flat out lie by Aileron. You're calling me a conspiracy theorist, but I'm only explaining things the way I see it. It's up to every individual player to decide who they side with. What's so bad about a dissenting opinion? If you're not up to anything... why lie? Not only that, if you thought he was in your clan, why did you attack him so much? You're a HORRIBLE team player, apparently. And you're obviously not good by yourself either. Why ARE you playing, anyway? The first quote was bragging/taunting. Kind of like what Redwaller and LiDDiS are doing right now. Again, grow a sense of humor. Oh, I know all about bragging. Look how much I did last round. But, I knew everything that was going on in that round, and I knew everything that was going to happen, and I was on top of everything at all times. There are two sides to bragging, and the down side is how it gets thrown in your face and used against you when you fail. You failed, and guess what? I get to gloat yet again. It's the winner's privilege, and basically the only point of playing this game. I myself have been working on my trash talking(if you haven't noticed). I've been studying Cerium, but I'm afraid I'm doing a terrible job. =\ The second quote was poorly written. The core has a limit based upon army size, but not one based upon army strength. Even with the army size limit in place, you can attack with a couple troops with a handfull of attackers while the rest of your army is !@#$%^&*igned to defense. If you're trying to save face, you're doing a very poor job of it. Having attacks restricted based on army strength is RIDICULOUS. Other games have restrictions based on army/land/whatever they use size because, if you're of equal size, then you have no excuse to be lower in power. However, if someone is a much lower size, of course you can't expect them to be at the same power, so there the restriction comes in. At the beginning of this round I removed the super savings account! Next round I'll remove bank income entirely! I even considered adding a deposit or withdrawel fees, but some people like the bank. But, you have no right to say that I'm not fixing the broken banking system because I am doing everything in my power to fix it short of resetting everyone's bank account mid-round. You're just postponing the inevitable - removing banking entirely. I saw this weeks ago, and you've either not yet seen it or refuse to see it because you don't want me to be right. I really don't know why, but either way, you're not doing what needs to be done. As for the other post where you accused me of being a !@#$%^&*, you didn't notice a very profound compliment I gave you guys. Oh, so profound. You are indeed profound, Aileron. A !@#$%^&* will assume that his clan should win and everyone else's victories are the results of bad settings. I said that Penis clan's victory would have come in perfect settings and thus I have a difficulty determining what wasn't supposed to happen and what was. Most of the other people in your clan noticed that it was a compliment, but you are angry and !@#$%^&*umed it was an insult. In reality, you implied that the clan system was broken itself. More than implied, apparently, since you're taking it out. You fail at the social side of this game so hard. This game DOES have a social aspect, and I've seen you try to play it. You got through to Attraction, but that's it. Um... gg? We'll see how exploitable your clan system is next round. But, in round two the winners were the ones who exploited the super savings account. That was removed for the next round.In round three the winners were the ones who got their friends to transfer a lot of stuff to them. That was removed for the next round.In round four the winners were the ones who overpopulated the field got their weak friends to constantly m!@#$%^&* their enemies. So stop waiting for it to get exploited before you remove it. I'd tell you to use your sense, but that's how we got to THIS round. Now pay attention this time, you scrub, I'm going to refer you to Sirlin's site again: http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlaytoWinPart0.htm . You should listen. After all, considering how badly I own you in this game, my opinion really should be worth something to you. I play to win, but when I give suggestions, I mean them. I never give someone bad advice just so I can win. That's where I draw my line. But while you pretend to acknowledge our ideas and suggestions, you completely ignored every one of them last round. I guess you think we're only trying to suggest you change things so we can win. Actually, let me rephrase that, since you've been so incapable of picking up on hints in the past. I'm not actually guessing about the way you think, I got that from the first quote where you called me a conspiracy theorist. You're the one who thinks we're trying to get you to change the game so we can win - but I'm the conspiracy theorist? I think the only way anything is going to get done this way is if we repeatedly beat your face in using the very strategies we warn you against, but personally, I don't have the patience for that. Where is Polix? He did a much better job with settings - at least he learned from the players.
Aileron Posted May 27, 2007 Report Posted May 27, 2007 Look, don't go around complaining that I'm not reading your suggestions when you hide two sentences which are actually constructive amongst 98 sentences of spam. I don't have time to read through all that crap. You would have more success with a "I think you should remove the bank entirely." Rather than "I hate you. You have no experience. I want someone else in charge. Remove the bank. My clan is winning. Check out my stupid website. Spam Spam Spam Whine Whine Whine." So why am I not listening to you? Your persuasive skills suck. Maybe trying to be polite would help. And for the record, you NEVER kicked my !@#$%^&*. The first round was a joke, I won the second, and quite the third due to the cheaters. And this round, JDS did all the work, so *HE* is the one who has the right to say that he kicked my !@#$%^&*. As it stands, I have one person who clearly is looking for excuses to hate me who is the only one who thinks the bank needs to be removed. As for the two clans idea, it doesn't seem to be getting much of a reception, so its off. But I won't remove the bank. Why? Because covert tools can't be sabbed or damaged, but can be resold. If somebody wants to bank, they can buy spy tools for safe storage, and sell them when they need money. The only thing having a bank does is simplify things. Generally, I've made moves in the correct direction but of insufficient magnitude. People were abusing the bank and I removed the super savings, turns out the free savings can also be abused. Sabotage was too powerfull, so I decreased the price of sentry tools, but that didn't do enough to help. Why the army size is insufficient: Say you have two players with 10,000 troops each. One player divides his soldiers 5000/5000 between offense and defense. The other makes it 10/9990. The second player then can m!@#$%^&* the first player for free. He has as many troops as the defender, so he's within the size limit, but he is only attacking with 10 soldiers so he's not going to have any losses. Ofcourse, that would make him more vulnerable to it himself, unless afterwards he retrains all his troops towards offense.
Animate Dreams Posted May 27, 2007 Report Posted May 27, 2007 Look, don't go around complaining that I'm not reading your suggestions when you hide two sentences which are actually constructive amongst 98 sentences of spam. I don't have time to read through all that crap. You would have more success with a "I think you should remove the bank entirely." Rather than "I hate you. You have no experience. I want someone else in charge. Remove the bank. My clan is winning. Check out my stupid website. Spam Spam Spam Whine Whine Whine." So why am I not listening to you? Your persuasive skills suck. Maybe trying to be polite would help. Here is jealousy in its most obvious form. My persuasive skills suck? I persuaded over half of all of SS RPG to band with me last round, I'd say that's testament enough to my persuasive skills. Besides the fact that everyone still agrees with me. And I agree with them. This isn't just me, here. I'm not going to elaborate here - go to the Clans page if you have any doubts. Of course, nothing seems to work on you - but remember, the hardest form of persuasion is Teaching. And for the record, you NEVER kicked my !@#$%^&*. The first round was a joke, I won the second, and quite the third due to the cheaters. And this round, JDS did all the work, so *HE* is the one who has the right to say that he kicked my !@#$%^&*. First off, I'm the one who originally convinced JDS to be Spider, and later showed him how to own with spider. Second, I did some !@#$%^&* kicking myself before I got bored and switched to nightwasp. Third, I don't think you want me to go through and explain every single way that I owned you, but a few examples from this round should be enough, since I didn't even play the first two rounds and won the third. First off, I was guessing(and was correct) that since the casualty rates hadn't really been changed, and banking wasn't going to be as solid a source of income for quite a while, that massing would be the winning strategy. Apparently you agreed with me because you removed massing. Then, I realized the winning strategy would be to go all spy, since spy weapons couldn't be sabotaged. I changed to Spider and whooped some !@#$%^&*, and would have continued to whoop !@#$%^&* to this day, if I hadn't quit. I was top spy before I helped JDS take that spot, and he took over for me. After seeing us, you AGAIN had to throw away your crappy strategy(not really crappy, you just need to be as good as Keiver to pull it off) so you too could go all spy. And let's look at this in a more global way - you were able to create one tiny clan with like 3 guys, and I created one that destroyed the game. Everyone in my clan is much more dedicated, as well... we help each other out, if we need to, even if it's to the detriment of our own accounts. How often do you find clans bonded that tightly in games like this? You pretty much don't, and the fact that we've pulled it off is a testament to our own skills. I don't feel I need to dwell on this subject. The truth is in front of you, but you ARE a scrub, and frequently scrubs absolutely refuse to admit when someone is better than them. As it stands, I have one person who clearly is looking for excuses to hate me who is the only one who thinks the bank needs to be removed. As for the two clans idea, it doesn't seem to be getting much of a reception, so its off. Holy !@#$%^&*ing !@#$%^&*. You are the dumbest mother!@#$%^&*er I've run into in quite a while. Despite how the one recurring theme in all of my posts is how you don't bother paying attention to our suggestions, you still refuse to believe it, and in an extremely hypocritical move, you attempt to denounce my support while almost directly following a post that supports me. Here, you blind sack of !@#$%^&*, I'll even quote it for you: Now I think about it, you might as well remove bank completely. That way, people wont flame each other because they unbank right at the end and buy all their items last minute. But I won't remove the bank. Why? Oh, I know this one. Because covert tools can't be sabbed or damaged, but can be resold. If somebody wants to bank, they can buy spy tools for safe storage, and sell them when they need money. The only thing having a bank does is simplify things. This is getting absolutely ridiculous. Again, you've yet to even read my suggestions. Like I said before, the beauty of this is that with people using spy/sentry as their bank, their rank is more realistic. Furthermore, this encourages people to use sentry even more - which is another blow to the massively overpowered spy. I know I said I'd leave this topic alone, but... yet again you've just now figured out something I had figured out and explained to everyone else weeks ago. Sure, you won the second round, but then people figured out strategy. Oh yeah, and I showed up. Your reign is over. Shut up and sit down. Generally, I've made moves in the correct direction but of insufficient magnitude. Personally, I love how the third round was great except income was too high and spy was overpowered, so you decide to increase income and create a new ship that had super spy powers. Oh, and that massing idea you had - that was perfect. I love how you flew in the face of decades of proper strategy game design and let us forget strategy and brute force people into submission. People were abusing the bank and I removed the super savings, turns out the free savings can also be abused. Sabotage was too powerfull, so I decreased the price of sentry tools, but that didn't do enough to help. Why the army size is insufficient: Say you have two players with 10,000 troops each. One player divides his soldiers 5000/5000 between offense and defense. The other makes it 10/9990. The second player then can m!@#$%^&* the first player for free. He has as many troops as the defender, so he's within the size limit, but he is only attacking with 10 soldiers so he's not going to have any losses. Ofcourse, that would make him more vulnerable to it himself, unless afterwards he retrains all his troops towards offense. So you ARE capable of learning. All along I'd been picturing you as something that resembled this: http://www.hecklerspray.com/wp-content/upl...01/rosie051.jpg . So after your absolutely ridiculous statement the other day that I don't even remember - something about how buying defensive troops would be the worst way to m!@#$%^&* someone - you actually did figure out part of the casualty formula. Still several steps behind everyone else. I'm not even going to bother referring you to sirlin's site this time, you're actively resisting any help at this point. Sirlin may be no Kierkegaard, but he's one of the experts when it comes to compe!@#$%^&*ive gaming theory and philosophy. It was my hope that, even if you didn't trust me, didn't believe me, or whatever else - maybe you would take an expert's opinion, but it seems I was wrong.
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