do NOT tell me this isn't imba

[Doom-Squirrel]

Now I know i've always been a pest about balance issues, but take a look at this.

 

 

 

 

And don't give me the whole 'If you had Antideath and 6 friends with thors and tacnuke and rockets and bricks and fields, it'd be easy to counter that.

[Muskrat]

That kind of group only gathers because there is an endless supply of idiots who will throw themselves down there.

 

Personally I like groups like that, its fun to attack them. :-)

 

Besides, how do you balance the issue of teamwork prevailing over individuals? You're not giving any suggestions.

[Doom-Squirrel]

That kind of group only gathers because there is an endless supply of idiots who will throw themselves down there.

 

Personally I like groups like that, its fun to attack them. :-)

 

Besides, how do you balance the issue of teamwork prevailing over individuals? You're not giving any suggestions.

 

levis > skill

 

in every way imaginable.

[nebulou]

spiders and leviathans may look strong, but theyre super slow.

 

just stay way back and spray them.

 

a terrier or weasel could take them out easily.

[Doom-Squirrel]

spiders and leviathans may look strong, but theyre super slow.

 

just stay way back and spray them.

 

a terrier or weasel could take them out easily.

did you completely avoid the picture above?

 

Because spraying doesn't seem to work at all against tacnukes + falcon missiles.

[nebulou]

if youre afraid of a few leviathans in a corner then you'd **** your pants if you ever saw a turret.

 

tacnukes might be a problem to avoid but falcon missiles lol

 

if you really want to kill them stay right outside the center safe and spray bombs at them.

[Dr Brain]

I see no problem... It's just like a turret, but without the lanc.

[Evil Doom]

there is always a way to own groups.... i can think of a few now for that pic... dont cry if u cant own em

[Sharpflame]

Whoa I just realized you began playing again, squirrel.

[Doom-Squirrel]

I see no problem... It's just like a turret, but without the lanc.

When was it ever established that turrets were fair and beatable?

[Evil Doom]

turrets are beatable! they always were

[Rareitanium]

I just owned 2 turrets with my crap spider using a Phaser, so if i can kill a turret....anyone can.

[*rc 1223*]

agreed ....

[Evil Doom]

I just owned 2 turrets with my crap spider using a Phaser, so if i can kill a turret....anyone can.

 

dont put yourself down like that... lol i know alot of people that you could own easily

Edited May 16, 2007 by 3vil

[Suicide_Run]

Well, its not THAT hard to kill them. Just rocket and spray them from another direction. You can just suicide yourself just to take out another. Its just mainly takes time and effort to kill them i suppose. Just dont be stupid and try to rush them w/ a stock ship lol

[Doom-Squirrel]

Well, its not THAT hard to kill them. Just rocket and spray them from another direction. You can just suicide yourself just to take out another. Its just mainly takes time and effort to kill them i suppose. Just dont be stupid and try to rush them w/ a stock ship lol

They're levis. They have 3000 health on average.

 

 

Suiciding, yes. Kamikazee? No.

[BlueWyvern]

I can beat all of those ASSS with my eyes closed and my finger on the ban macro.

[Deathboy-evil]

That kind of group only gathers because there is an endless supply of idiots who will throw themselves down there.

 

Personally I like groups like that, its fun to attack them. :-)

 

Besides, how do you balance the issue of teamwork prevailing over individuals? You're not giving any suggestions.

 

Don't really feel like reading the rest of the posts.. but as I see it.. there's not much of a problem there.. it's just teamwork... and I agree with muskrat here.. there's the idiots that charge there.. and the ones that charge and can actually take them out.. but as the rest of the posts.. (I glanced at a few that said there's always a way to take a group down..) that part is true.. if a team is centering.. then use another team centering and go at it.. 5v5.. or whatever it is.. it's only a challenge.. nothing more..

[Doom-Squirrel]

I hate to break it to everybody, but just because something is 'beatable', it definitely does not make it fair.

 

 

As I said when I posted this, yes, if you rocket in, taking four mines and 5 bombs in the face, surviving that, then somehow managing to have enough energy/thors to take one of em out, Great. Go ahead. I don't care.

 

But at no point is it ever going to be fair.

 

 

 

It's not teamwork, its people grouping together, shooting randomly, killing off 90% of the warbird/javs that come out of center.

 

I'd also like to expand on this:

 

Sometimes, there is no other group to challenge the first. And when the first is defeated, you're only replacing one evil with another.

 

Wont stop either team from bombing the !@#$%^&* out of everybody else who doesn't have the good fortune of being on a prosperous team.

[Dr Brain]

Fair and fun aren't the same thing. It's not fair, but fair would mean having every ship identical and a freq limit of 1 person. If they're killing you coming out into the lower center, move your fighting to the left or the right.

[Doom-Squirrel]

Fair and fun aren't the same thing. It's not fair, but fair would mean having every ship identical and a freq limit of 1 person. If they're killing you coming out into the lower center, move your fighting to the left or the right.

Trust me, it isn't fun having to fight turrets and groups of levis.

 

And you can't just say to move when turrets are flying around center, killing everything in sight.

 

Fair doesn't have to mean just 1 ship, i'm fine with a bit of polarization as long as my skill would reflect my ability to kill more than what ship I choose, and how much money I invest in it.

[Muskrat]

attacking turrets and groups is probably my favorite thing to do in the zone....

[Doom-Squirrel]

attacking turrets and groups is probably my favorite thing to do in the zone....

Great. I don't enjoy it, nor do most other people without anti-death/3000 hp ships.

[Muskrat]

I don't have ad and none of my ships have more than 2000. I'm not speaking for that small of a minority when I say that turrets and groups aren't a problem, especially compared to some other, more valid complaints you could make. Basically, you're complaining about how a warbird cant kill a team. If it could, would that be fair? fun? I'd say neither. It's called teamwork and teamwork is the basis for a good game. Get it together whineybutt.

[Doom-Squirrel]

I don't have ad and none of my ships have more than 2000. I'm not speaking for that small of a minority when I say that turrets and groups aren't a problem, especially compared to some other, more valid complaints you could make. Basically, you're complaining about how a warbird cant kill a team. If it could, would that be fair? fun? I'd say neither. It's called teamwork and teamwork is the basis for a good game. Get it together whineybutt.

I don't find it unfair that I can't kill a team. I agree that I shouldn't have an easy time with it.

 

But having no chance to, being bombarded by red and blue bombs constantly from a marauding lancaster with 7 turrets is hardly fair at all. Especially not when it's something like a lanc, that requires no skill to move your turret and shoot in the direction of blue radar dots.