Guest Unison Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Alright well im sure plenty of you have come to notice that the jav settings are different in pub, rumble, duel, and jwl. :evil: Well personally I would like to tell the person who is responsible for this, your a moron. :twisted: Ive played this zone for quite sometime now and I know what the jav was when I started and what it is now. Its all messed up. This crap needs to be fixed cause its pissing the elite jav community off and its pissing people off who play in jav leagues. I also wonder if the upper staffers owners and such are in a consipiracy to ultimately do away with the jav and make the jav leagues dissapear. I can go on for pages. Anywayz lets change the jav back it would be real nice. Thx Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Well, considering as I like proving people wrong, here's what I noticed:(oh, and so you don't get me wrong, I did a bunch of *getfile and compared line by line) Pub vs Duel: Only meaningful difference is the existance of Anti. Might I add the anti costs nothing, so it's basically not a difference at all. :oops: Pub vs Rumble: Only meaningful difference is attach bounties, which is 201 for rumble vs 31 for pub. Then again, starting bounty in rumble is 201, so meh... :oops: Pub vs JWL: Besides the anti/bounty difference, not a -*BAD WORD*- thing different. :oops: Gee, i'm sorry my moron self MADE EVERY JAV THE SAME -*BAD WORD*- THING.(which coindidently, is the JWL jav). You're just lending more evidence to my argument that you "elite vets" (floo et al) wouldn't know the jav if it bit you in the -*BAD WORD*-. :oops: :stupid: I'm sorry for any confusion you might have had :wink: :twisted: :pixelsoft::julius: Quote
Bran Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 i notice a difference in the jwl jav to the rumble jav... for some reason it seems that the jwl rotation speed is faster Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Nope.InitialRotation and MaximumRotation on both are identical. Any more takers? Quote
Stylez Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 The graphics in some arenas are different, some of the bullet pixels are bigger in some arenas and smaller in others, which makes it some what easier to hit others with at times or miss.... The duel jav is different in some way to the rumble jav, cuase many of times I can own all day in a rumble jav, but get owned all day in a duel jav.... Maybe it's just bad luck? But there is some difference to the two, I dunno, you yourself Vile have to play them and see what everyone is talking about, it's kinda hard to explain.... Maybe were wrong, who knows. Either way, it'll be nice to have all the graphics for each arena identical to the others so less confusion amoungst the players will stir up. Well I'll shut my mouth now Peace Quote
talion Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 in rumble, people are rarely at full energy when you confront them. this changes the dynamic, as if you're with a decent partner he can score some hits, and make kills alot easier. in duels, you have to get every shot to hit and count, including the killing blow. duel is a truer test of individual skill. take your partner to 2v2 and play some other teams and see if you still do well. sometimes a good team is better tahn the sum of its parts. in short, owning at one gameplay style doesn't ensure ownage in another. Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 LVZ's are identical in every arena but JWL. Any more takers? Quote
MikeTheNose Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Lets not forget that each arena has it's own fps rate which can make things seem either faster or slower for players. This often causes people to ask "Did you change the jav to make it move faster/slower?" even when in the same arena. Quote
Hece Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Well, considering as I like proving people wrong, here's what I noticed:(oh, and so you don't get me wrong, I did a bunch of *getfile and compared line by line) Pub vs Duel: Only meaningful difference is the existance of Anti. Might I add the anti costs nothing, so it's basically not a difference at all. :oops: Pub vs Rumble: Only meaningful difference is attach bounties, which is 201 for rumble vs 31 for pub. Then again, starting bounty in rumble is 201, so meh... :oops: Pub vs JWL: Besides the anti/bounty difference, not a -*BAD WORD*- thing different. :oops: Gee, i'm sorry my moron self MADE EVERY JAV THE SAME -*BAD WORD*- THING.(which coindidently, is the JWL jav). You're just lending more evidence to my argument that you "elite vets" (floo et al) wouldn't know the jav if it bit you in the -*BAD WORD*-. :oops: :stupid: I'm sorry for any confusion you might have had :wink: :twisted: :pixelsoft::julius: "only meaningful difference"? omg. You don't think bullet damage, recharge rate or bullet cost make the ship totally different?Well i havent played 17th for a while, did u change the same jav to all arenas so there really are no meaningful differences between them anymore? Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 I'm better Vile is going to say they are the same because in my opinion There is no bloody difference! lol A javelin in 17th is a Javelin! Its that simple. Its Yellow, it fires alot of bullets, it has red bombs, it sucks -*BAD WORD*- coz its lame I cant see any difference in any of them bar the fact I cant use em, so if they are each different that means I cant use 4 different versions of jav???? even I would be able to use 1 of the 4, so they gotta be all the same, and from me playing around with them they are. Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Gee, i'm sorry my moron self MADE EVERY JAV THE SAME -*BAD WORD*- THING. I was wondering when someone was going to take the bait. Bullet damage and everything other setting that isn't the jav specifically is identical. Every setting that's on the jav minus an AntiwarpStatus or 2 is identical. Yes Hece, all the javs were changed to be identical. Any other takers? Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 oh me!!! What if a jav has multi fire on and the other has it off, is there any full difference in the recharge and cost rate? Coz I cant see that much of a difference :/ Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Classic but good question, no, there is no difference in recharge between multi and standard, they both use the same energy. Quote
Cencil Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 I wouldnt complain...Its simply impossible to win. Quote
madhaha Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Has Vile the pompus FINALLY sorted out the duel settings yet? I don't mean just the jav. Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 the jav in duel is sorted and if there is no difference between multi and not then do they not do they same damage or does multi do more damage? Quote
madhaha Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 It does the same damage. This has changed recently in pub but only for other ships. Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 My victory continues with me being able to say yes to mad. Quote
NBVegita Posted November 4, 2003 Report Posted November 4, 2003 Hey guys viles got ya here. And wait, don't I seem to recall everyone bashing Z a couple of months ago about settings, and giving enthusiasm to Vile. Now look what has happened, Vile is getting bashed. So who's head is up next on the cutting board? Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 4, 2003 Report Posted November 4, 2003 I aint bashing vile, vile is one of the many Gods of 17th Nah Vile has always done something to the zone, that I have never questioned while others I felt never have done something to the zone. Quote
reload Posted November 4, 2003 Report Posted November 4, 2003 Vile. I guess it's my turn. Compare every Jav setting (Pub, Duel, Rumble, JWL, SBL) with the OLD jav. Because THAT is what is meant. :oops: Quote
Vile Requiem Posted November 4, 2003 Report Posted November 4, 2003 Another challenge falls by the wayside, as we find once again, all important settings are identical.(minus of course attach bounty and all that nonsense) Any other takers? Quote
reload Posted November 6, 2003 Report Posted November 6, 2003 Another challenge falls by the wayside, as we find once again, all important settings are identical.(minus of course attach bounty and all that nonsense) Any other takers? I demand a recount! Vile, lmao.. How come I get 14-6, 18-8, 12-5 and 17-5 as consecutive recs with the old Jav in RUMBLE, and with the new one I don't even get above 10 kills? :oops: Quote
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