women

[Gravitron]

answer this...if your 14 year old daughter came home and told you

"hey dad, i'm !@#$%^&*ing a 17 year old boy at my school"

what would you say?

lol, i'm sure you would not be okay with it.

think from both sides, stupid.

Yet, you forget the third side.

Deny the daughter, and she's going to blacklist her father throughout her pubirty; were she to remain with said b/f for years to come, there might be some real bad-blood developed and she'll remember it against him.

 

What I'll say?

"Is he any good?"

I believe in educating my children so they are equipped with the proper tools and prepared with proper training to take on the world; take responsibility for their action, think ahead, see the large picture and prepare in advance, be decent and moral.

Beyond that, you can criticize, advice and support.

Going head(strong) to (thickier)head will only get you shunned out of/from their lives; it's how we reacted to our parents, they to theirs and so on.

 

 

I'm a perverted slime ball.

I'm also searching for true love, if such thing exists; I'll settle for just normal love too (read: love, not intercourse), life is made of compromises, after all...some people just don't understand that some compromises are actually great opportunities and fail to see the good they benefit from it.

It's all about choices.

[ESCANDAL0SA]

age (as a factor for determining inteligence, maturity and in fact almost anyting) is very useless.

 

no, it's not entirely usesless.

age tells you a lot.

it tells you how much knowledge the person has.

take into consideration the vast majority claim to have learned a lot when in fact they haven't.

age tells you where they're at in life.

14 year olds...are not stable.. emotionally, mentally, etc.

[NBVegita]

It might not be a good factor to determine a lot of things, but it still doesn't mean I'd like it.

 

Its like how in the united states 14% of men are over 6ft tall, but ironically something like 48% of fortune 500 CEO's are over 6 ft tall. And there have been a lot of studies that show people think a taller man is more capable to lead, and they make about $900 more a year per inch over the national height average.

 

That is a terrible factor to use, but people use it subconsciously. Same thing with age. No matter how hard I try, subconsciously it will bug me.

 

The only sure way to deal with it, is to take it on a case by case basis. If my 14 yo daughter came home with a 17 yo boy, I cant say at all what id think ahead of time. It would entirly depend on my impresion of my daugthters level of maturity and that of the boy she brought home. Age may be a generalizing factor you can use to take a wild stab at the most likely outcome, but in any case were other factors can be used, they should be, becuase age (as a factor for determining inteligence, maturity and in fact almost anyting) is very useless.

[Poophie]

I actually agree with Grav for the first time. Traditional parenting screws !@#$%^&*.

[»1587200]

I believe in educating my children so they are ... decent and moral.

Impossible for you to teach

 

Honestly when I saw your name, the first thought was, "ah !@#$%^&*, Grav posted, here we go" but it was quite a good post.

[»Admiral Kirk]

You are only showing your ignorence... Age only tells you how many years a person has had on this earth to absorb knowledge and wisdom, it in NO way tells you how much of that knowledge and wisdom said person has actualy takin in. You yourself, are infact a perfect example of this. You claim to be almost 19 years old, yet you are still showing the mental mechinations of one much younger. Open your eyes and stop being so naive.

 

EDIT: Teach me to start quoting what im replying to.... this was in response to LOSA

[ESCANDAL0SA]

The only sure way to deal with it, is to take it on a case by case basis. If my 14 yo daughter came home with a 17 yo boy, I cant say at all what id think ahead of time. It would entirly depend on my impresion of my daugthters level of maturity and that of the boy she brought home. Age may be a generalizing factor you can use to take a wild stab at the most likely outcome, but in any case were other factors can be used, they should be, becuase age (as a factor for determining inteligence, maturity and in fact almost anyting) is very useless.

 

be realistic...as a father, you will never be alright with your 14 year old dating a 17 year old.

you may say that it depends on your daughter's level of maturity.

BUT as a father, you will still treat your daughter as if she were younger, so what does that tell you about your impression of her maturity?

MOST fathers don't begin to let go until age 18, when they've accepted that their daughter has grown up and matured.

[»Admiral Kirk]

At a certain point, one must relize that a debate with a particular individual is pointless. As they are no longer working with facts or knowledge, but with predisposed ideas that they will not let go of, despite overwelming opposition. I would like to say that one day you will realize this mistake and begin to actualy open your mind. But unfortunatly the large majority of individuals afflicted with this problem never get any better. But still, as Ive said before thier are no absolutes, so thiers yet hope for you ^^. Good luck, youll need it.

[ESCANDAL0SA]

You are only showing your ignorence... Age only tells you how many years a person has had on this earth to absorb knowledge and wisdom, it in NO way tells you how much of that knowledge and wisdom said person has actualy takin in. You yourself, are infact a perfect example of this. You claim to be almost 19 years old, yet you are still showing the mental mechinations of one much younger. Open your eyes and stop being so naive.

 

so, you think a 14 year old can absorb more knowledge than an 18 year old?

let's be real now. lmaooo@you.

at age 14, that is when you make the most mistakes in order to prevent them from happening again in the future.

how am i being naive? do you wanna explain?

i've explained MY OPINION.

you're a straight up fool for thinking that just because someone thinks differently, they have "mental mechinations" of someone younger.

i can !@#$%^&*ure you that my intelligence > yours.

i've accepted everyone's point of view. it's you that is ignorant.

[jacob hunter!]

I'll let admiral do my posting for me from now on since his opinions pretty much make the most sense.

 

Anyways, i'm going to continue talking to this person I like for awhile. which in this case makes all your opinions put to yourselfs. Good day to you all and lets !@#$%^&*ing talk about soemthing else because this topic is really annoying.

 

 

Ohh and opie do cutie anime chicks count for woman I

 

 

 

OHH and LOSA Denver nuggets suck !@#$%^&*!!!!!!! they are going to lose to rockets so GFG

[ESCANDAL0SA]

AND i think it's hilarious that you're telling a FEMALE how the girl's mind and socialization works.

mind you, i've been there before. guys and girls mature differently.

so, i KNOW the mindset of most 14 year olds.

[Drake7707]

i don't know much about parenting (is this on topic ?!), but if i were a father then i would certainly protect my child against others until i know they are old and stable enough to know on their own (thats generally 18, but varies a bit)

[NBVegita]

A debate about personal opinion is most often pointless. It ranks right up there with debating religion.

 

Either way the point of a debate is not to change the mind of the person you're debating with, it is to concisely deliver and support your opinion on the matter. Debators on the internet rarely concede victory or defeat, so at some point you always have to just move on once you feel you've made your point to the best of you ability.

 

At a certain point, one must relize that a debate with a particular individual is pointless. As they are no longer working with facts or knowledge, but with predisposed ideas that they will not let go of, despite overwelming opposition. I would like to say that one day you will realize this mistake and begin to actualy open your mind. But unfortunatly the large majority of individuals afflicted with this problem never get any better. But still, as Ive said before thier are no absolutes, so thiers yet hope for you ^^. Good luck, youll need it.

[Drake7707]

You are only showing your ignorence... Age only tells you how many years a person has had on this earth to absorb knowledge and wisdom, it in NO way tells you how much of that knowledge and wisdom said person has actualy takin in. You yourself, are infact a perfect example of this. You claim to be almost 19 years old, yet you are still showing the mental mechinations of one much younger. Open your eyes and stop being so naive.

 

so, you think a 14 year old can absorb more knowledge than an 18 year old?

let's be real now. lmaooo@you.

at age 14, that is when you make the most mistakes in order to prevent them from happening again in the future.

 

around age 14, you have to protect them against themselves, in order to prevent and rectify their mistakes, then afterwards point out that it was a mistake.

Actually as a parent you have to suffer and take the blow of their mistakes, simple as that

[NBVegita]

around age 14, you have to protect them against themselves, in order to prevent and rectify their mistakes, then afterwards point out that it was a mistake.

Actually as a parent you have to suffer and take the blow of their mistakes, simple as that

 

Well put drake. It is a parents duty to let their kids make the small mistakes they can learn from, and protect them from the big ones until they are better prepared to handle the mistakes and consequences.

[jacob hunter!]

losa denver is gonna get pwnt by the rockets ok? NOOB. There, thats how I feel about you in this topic

[Cancer+]

All Cancer likes to do is talk !@#$%^&* about people and how they do things, so his opinion means nothing.

 

 

I stopped reading the topic after this because it went way in depth.

 

Keiver, all I do is talk !@#$%^&* about people? Name ONE other time I have talked !@#$%^&* about anyone. You don't even know me. I don't know you. If you are going to slander me, then just shut your mouth. Noone wants to hear trash.

[ESCANDAL0SA]

i thought some of the people on here were actually intellectual.

apparently, not.

if you can't accept opinions from others, then you're !@#$%^&*ing ignorant.

and you call me close minded? please learn the meaning of that before using it.

clearly, there were 2 arguments, 2 opinions.

blinded by your own situation (attraction), which makes you biased on your opinion, you say i made "stupid remarks".

BUT if you had any intelligence in you, you would put your situation aside and look at it from my point of view like i did with yours.

i recognized that perhaps it's different where you come from. i took a step back from my own opinion and did that.

lol...and, my opinions were based on experiences, observations and knowledge that i have learned in school in terms of socialization.

i didn't pull that outta my !@#$%^&*.

 

losa denver is gonna get pwnt by the rockets ok? NOOB. There, thats how I feel about you in this topic

 

 

lmaoooooooooo. you're !@#$%^&*ing dumb.

Denver ain't even playing Houston. LOLOLOLOLOL.

Denver ain't even playing Houston if they get into the second round.

you just made yourself look like a fool.

now, hang a rope on the ceiling and commit to it, thanks.

Edited April 24, 2007 by L0SA

[Drake7707]

age itself doesn't matter, periods of time do matter in fact: you could have:

 

- baby stage

- child stage

- preteen/teen stage

- near adult stage

- adult stage

 

then afterwards its just in blocks of 10 years

 

Note that these stages don't change one day to another, there's a fading in between

[ESCANDAL0SA]

age itself doesn't matter, periods of time do matter in fact: you could have:

 

- baby stage

- child stage

- preteen/teen stage

- near adult stage

- adult stage

 

then afterwards its just in blocks of 10 years

 

based on this...the preteen/teen stage can last a long time. it's safe to say that MOST 14 year olds are still in this stage. their maturity level isn't as high.

[»Swift]

Here are my observations as well L0SA. My wife and I are months apart in age, yet I've dated women who were my senior by a few years and younger by a couple of years. As anything goes with a relationship the mental stability of any young teenager varies as to how they were raised. You can come from any social environment and be considered the things you've previously stated just because they've dated older or younger individuals. It's important for those younger teens to learn from their mistakes though and as you have learned from your observations or 'social' encounters it is obvious you have a serious bias against older/younger couples.

 

 

As some people have pointed out though, there is a huge gap in communication between older and younger generations, but maturity is something that is flimsy at most, almost intangible because of the nature human beings are. I grew up with some hardships, yet despite some things that would leave others emotionally distraught I learned from them and moved on. It's all on that teenagers initiative to take that step and say am I capable of committing it? If so what are the pro's and con's of what I say, and do? If you can answer those questions then you've shown your maturity. Now acting upon it and having others perceive it the way you want it to will not go hand-in-hand. That's where you mind your P's and Q's and when people see that it can and it does work, things change.

 

 

I have no issues in this regarding a 17 year old dating a 14 year old. There are to many questions that have variable answers. For all you know she could be 14 turning 15 in a day or two. If so that would seperate their age by two years. Which is by far more acceptable in society than what you have been posting repeatedly. That was but an example as to the difference aside from just stating your observation and bringing down defamatory comments on some of the other members on my forum network. They are expressing their opinions and thoughts just as you are, remember this does go both ways and to have an intellectual conversation both parties need to be impartial regardless of the ire that builds up in your heart. Take heart to these words because they are wisdom. Something I rarely impart when I post.

 

 

Cheers,

 

J Medeiros (Swift)

[Drake7707]

well to put a 'stereotype' number on it: preteen/teen would be between 9 and 17 yo, near adult between 17 and 22, adult afterwards

[ESCANDAL0SA]

it is obvious you have a serious bias against older/younger couples.

 

 

well...thank you for even bothering to read any of my posts. i said, at age 18, that's when age begins to not matter. thanks for trying though.

 

 

and...i've taken maturity into considation and did state that age 14 is when experiences take it's toll.

i said, at this time, MOST have not matured. they're still learning and are in the process of maturing.

[»D1st0rt]

hahaha losa girls don't play 2d spaceship games

 

You're probably a dude just like Audry over here

[Drake7707]

most ppl i know are around my age (20) and i think they're still not mature. I know i am not mature at all, but definetely more mature then i was when i was 18