DaKillaRoach Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Hey guys, Roach here. Basically, i'm fed up heh. I'm not going to say anything about it, I would rather I didnt to keep some sort of honour in this zone (if there is any left) but i'm fed up of the way I'm getting treated by you 'higher powers'. So basically i'm taking some of your advice and gtfo.I might come back one day, prehaps when there is a major change in the overall at!@#$%^&*ude and removal of some staffers.Alot of you guys have been great, some have been -*BAD WORD*-s, many might say just ignore them or whatever but then it niggles in my mind that they are there, and in my eyes abusing their position. I might drop into the zone to say hi to a few friends, and will stay on the 17th forum but thats about it. I'm off to some other zone, not sure which to see if I can get a good standing there someday. Its been fun peeps, and alot of you hav been good friends, goodbye to my home zone -Röach Quote
Zioneer Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Great. Another loyal member of our community has left because of a staffer. If nothing is done about this, (which probably won't be since nobody knows anything about anyone nor anything about anything that's got anything to do with this zone) then I'm out of here too. Quote
Vile Requiem Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 -*BAD WORD*-, if after all our efforts the zone becomes -*BAD WORD*-tier solely because of staff at!@#$%^&*ude...then you're not the only one leaving Roach. I mean, WTF? Quote
000 Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 man i wish i was staff dakilla u been a great squad member well all apart the last few weeks with elemenal? thing good luck man i recon u will be bak like every1 else Quote
HoTlAvAkInG Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 lol people leaving becouse of staff ?? redicilous i only play 17th becouse of the leagues and becouse i have friends there for the rest i dont really care becouse the pub style just isnt my thing. In every zone i play i play becouse of the cool leagues the zone has and friendbased playing if some zone has stupid staff i dont give a **** so u leaving becouse of staff is a bit Doh!! Quote
madhaha Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Great. Another loyal member of our community has left because of a staffer. If nothing is done about this, (which probably won't be since nobody knows anything about anyone nor anything about anything that's got anything to do with this zone) then I'm out of here too. Wasn't there some staffer named Makaveli that made quite a few people quit? Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Posted October 31, 2003 Hey hot. When your being buggered and pestered by these people even through ignore, its a bit hard not to get annoyed by them And Vile thats the reason i'm leaving 17th. I get angry at the zone times yeah, but thats me but what showed on my last day with the last game of speedball revealed to me alot of the really good staff people who turned up to play and say bye. And 000, just for you i'll dissolve Elemental? Sorry for annoying you man, only a bit of fun. Cya guys in some other zone until I get bored of them all, hopefulyl by then the staffers will have gotten better Quote
Zioneer Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Wasn't there some staffer named Makaveli that made quite a few people quit? No sir. In fact, not once in the history of 17th Parallel has there been a staffer named 'Makaveli'. Quote
kentbrockman Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 very unforunate, but ive noticed staff issues myself. i swear, most of the staff likes to command people - but dont give a -*BAD WORD*- about hosting anything. id test it if it didnt result in a ban, but im sure that if i type ?host whatever, if lucky 1 guy will show up. if i type ?cheater whatever, 10 guys will show up. thats just part of being human though. neodestroyer returns for the first time in 2 months, and pernille makes him an er. its insane. good luck, roach. hopefully this is just a short leave of absence. Quote
MikeTheNose Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 i swear, most of the staff likes to command people - but dont give a -*BAD WORD*- about hosting anything. id test it if it didnt result in a ban, but im sure that if i type ?host whatever, if lucky 1 guy will show up. if i type ?cheater whatever, 10 guys will show up. thats just part of being human though. Do you even realize how many ?host people do in an hour? Including when there is currently a game being hosted? Quote
MikeTheNose Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 The one basic reason why we can't do anything about anything the staff do is because we don't hear a -*BAD WORD*-ed thing about it from the players. All we do hear is complaints about staff and not complaints about individual staff members. People like to think of staff as a whole rather than as individuals. Quote
000 Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 love ya dakilla btw u will be bak for next sbl seasion i will make u !! Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted October 31, 2003 Author Report Posted October 31, 2003 Mike, the only reason I dont blame or point out certain members is because I do not feel it should be done, after all is it not a staffpersons word against mine? even with logs, people can 'edit' them :/And the staff SHOULD be a whole, and watching to make sure no one is doing anythig wrong, yet the day when I made this descision 8! yes 8! staff people sat there and did -*BAD WORD*- all about it (sorry for bad language). It went on for about 20 minutes before the problems turned into priv messages. Well i'm going to say no more about it, these things happen, obviously alot more than what I once thought but I have chosen my decision with knowledge that I can not stay in this zone while the way staff people act at this moment in time. The zone has improved so much over to be put down by those who are supposed to make it better! And 000, at the moment I dont see a chance in -*BAD WORD*- of you getting me back in 17th at the moment but keep tyring Also check ?squadowner Elemental? its gone heh. Just for you bud Quote
Zioneer Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 All we do hear is complaints about staff and not complaints about individual staff members. People like to think of staff as a whole rather than as individuals. Yeah that's true. In my opinion, some people never should've been hired in the first place because of how they act. When whoever hired those people realize how those people are and warn them, they're basically telling them to change who they are, which is unlikely to happen. Quote
Tempest Posted November 1, 2003 Report Posted November 1, 2003 i swear, most of the staff likes to command people - but dont give a -*BAD WORD*- about hosting anything. id test it if it didnt result in a ban, but im sure that if i type ?host whatever, if lucky 1 guy will show up. if i type ?cheater whatever, 10 guys will show up. thats just part of being human though. The problem is that nobody turns up for events! I can't count the number of times that an event has failed due to nobody (not even the person who ?hosted it in the first place) turning up. We still answer 'em, but more often than not (and especially during less populous hours) so few players arrive that it becomes impossible to host. Quote
madhaha Posted November 1, 2003 Report Posted November 1, 2003 *reminds nurples to bring up the issue of scheduling and staff training with mike some time this year* Quote
Zioneer Posted November 1, 2003 Report Posted November 1, 2003 The problem is that nobody turns up for events! I can't count the number of times that an event has failed due to nobody (not even the person who ?hosted it in the first place) turning up. We still answer 'em, but more often than not (and especially during less populous hours) so few players arrive that it becomes impossible to host. Very true. People stopped playing events like a year ago. I remember when pub and events would have almost same amount of players.. now that only happens during leagues : Quote
Bran Posted November 1, 2003 Report Posted November 1, 2003 I dont have a problem with it... Props to the Rumble bot Quote
DaKillaRoach Posted November 1, 2003 Author Report Posted November 1, 2003 Scarily the bot the one thing you can really rely on :/ Quote
Stylez Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 I remember when I got on a subject sorta like this one and ended up getting banned for 5000 days..... The funny thing is Nurples banned me when he wasn't even around for some odd weeks and right away took the staffers side... Oh well I'll shut up now, I'm addicted to the zone to much to get banned again now Well also, Mike, I myself, dont know about anyone else, but I have sent in a few modabuse@17thparallel.com emails, wanna know how many staffers got in trouble for them? If your guess was higher then 1 your wrong.... 0, nothing ever happened and those so called staffers abusing kept doing it over and over and over again.... -*BAD WORD*- most the reason why I was so pissed in 17th all the time was becuase of staffers/players PMing with all sorts of -*BAD WORD*- just to piss me off, which back then apperently worked But I just dont care anymore now.... SO HA!!!! Well all I'm saying is, dont make some stupid staffer make you get your panties in a twist, when you know you like playing this zone. Just press escape and screenshot your conversation with that so called staffer and give it to Mike or some high up staff who will (maybe) take care of it for you. Also to Maka, I was made staff once, tee hee, I got rimmed for speccing Tapzu during a league game when over 15 people PMed with how unfair his lag was but how he could run right through a group of 4 guys and kill 2 and come out still alive. All I did was my job and I get anal probed for it, like some illegal alien. All in all, just play the game and abuse the staffers by making them host all day, and if they dont, just tell on them and get them in trouble!!! jk Well thats my 2 cents,Peace Quote
MikeTheNose Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Stylez, I am one of 4 staff members who recieve those emails. Now if you wish you could tell me which email you are refering to, about when it was sent and I'll deal with it personally. Quote
NBVegita Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Hey there guys, time for veg's 2 cents again. The problem is you blame us for not controlling the staff, and preventing the abuse. Well there are two problems with the upper staff doing this "as a whole staff". First, I notice that once I get on, supposed to when I'm "away" (which btw I'm not, and I do keep logs) the at!@#$%^&*ude is different among many staff members. Second, you say they stopped doing it publically, and do it privately. Well how are we spose to prevent that? They har!@#$%^&* you privately, you ?ignore, that doesn't work, then you just leave. Where in that does it give us a hint that they're har!@#$%^&*ing you? modabuse@17thparallel.com Also, just because you send in a modabuse mail doesn't mean we're going to go off and suspend the staffer on the spot or fire him. Otherwise we'd have a lot of modabuse mails, and a very small staff. We try to take care of things, and if you can get us proof, logs/screenshots things can be done. But if you say "Blue silver is spamming me in pm!!!!" and he says "no I'm not newb, stfu!!!" ....erm well bad example, but you get the piont. Give us proof, and if it's in pm, just ?ignore. Also I do not recieve modabuse@17thparallel.com mails, so if you mail NBVegita@17thparallel.com I guarantee it will be taken care of, ask anyone who's sent a mail to me, I've gotten on it asap. Quote
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