»1587200 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Protest the bans that are being forced on players:http://www.pe!@#$%^&*iononlin...^&*ion.html Interview from CS Nation with Valve concerning the ads:http://www.csnation.net/viewnews.php/8576/
X`terrania Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Imo, CS totally sucks. But I'll sign the pe!@#$%^&*ion because there is no valid excuse for having ads being displayed while playing the game..
L.C. Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 Technically it IS illegal for Valve to do this. This is like a contract: when you purchase a game or the license to owning the game, it MUST be no less than what the license or game is. I purchased Counter Strike without advertisements, and that is "part of the license" or "en!@#$%^&*lement to the game." I do not want advertisements, and that is not what I bought. I do not play Counter Strike though. Signed.
rootbear75 Posted March 9, 2007 Report Posted March 9, 2007 (edited) Adverts should not be part of any paid game...If it is free, i can understand, but not a paid game.... Signed. Edited March 9, 2007 by rootbear75
»doc flabby Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 Continuum doesn't have adverts and is free. Why should any paid game need ads?
Dav Posted March 10, 2007 Report Posted March 10, 2007 these people will try to squeeze every penny of revenue possible out of these things. Thats capitalism for you. Something like this pe!@#$%^&*ion is a great idea, often these people need to be reminded that its the market that ultimately decides not the other way around.
PoLiX Posted March 11, 2007 Report Posted March 11, 2007 Technically it IS illegal for Valve to do this. This is like a contract: when you purchase a game or the license to owning the game, it MUST be no less than what the license or game is. I purchased Counter Strike without advertisements, and that is "part of the license" or "en!@#$%^&*lement to the game." I do not want advertisements, and that is not what I bought. I do not play Counter Strike though. Signed. Illegal, no. Wrong, Yes. Good idea for Company, Yes and No. You bought a key to play the game and a cd containing the files to install the game, not the game itself. By installing the game you agreed to the license agreement they showed you. If you notice, 99.9% of license agreements have a clause stating they can change any part of that agreement at any time. It is not smart as CS 1.6 is free, and it honestly isn't costing Valve much if any to maintain anymore, but they want to make money. So they'll find a way to do it. Sad some of the best games are ran/supported by them, cause they honestly have the worst history of customer care/support.
Mr. Right Posted March 11, 2007 Report Posted March 11, 2007 Technically it IS illegal for Valve to do this. This is like a contract: when you purchase a game or the license to owning the game, it MUST be no less than what the license or game is. I purchased Counter Strike without advertisements, and that is "part of the license" or "en!@#$%^&*lement to the game." I do not want advertisements, and that is not what I bought. I do not play Counter Strike though. Signed. Illegal, no. Wrong, Yes. Good idea for Company, Yes and No. You bought a key to play the game and a cd containing the files to install the game, not the game itself. By installing the game you agreed to the license agreement they showed you. If you notice, 99.9% of license agreements have a clause stating they can change any part of that agreement at any time. It is not smart as CS 1.6 is free, and it honestly isn't costing Valve much if any to maintain anymore, but they want to make money. So they'll find a way to do it. Sad some of the best games are ran/supported by them, cause they honestly have the worst history of customer care/support. Unfortunate for gamers, EA is trying something similar, and already it's worse. For some reason, my CD key got resetted for NFS Carbon, and I had to dig into my EA folder to look for that cd-key renewal icon. Turns out it doesn't work. After calling EA, they sent me to the same site with the same stupid program that doesn't work...even people who had Battlefield 2142 had similar problems.
rootbear75 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 Sad some of the best games are ran/supported by them, cause they honestly have the worst history of customer care/support.reminds me of (stereotypical?) AOL when trying to cancel or do anything that affects them negatively (as in losing a customer, having to give extra service, etc...)
Dav Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 ive heard horror stories about canceling AOL subscription.
Gravitron Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 The worst history? You must be thinking of SOE. At any rate...CounterStrike is for people below 120 IQ.What they get is deserved.Wise up and play intelligent games instead of re!@#$%^&*ed zero-skill-zero-design skirmish shooters.
»1587200 Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Posted March 12, 2007 The worst history? You must be thinking of SOE. At any rate...CounterStrike is for people below 120 IQ.What they get is deserved.Wise up and play intelligent games instead of re!@#$%^&*ed zero-skill-zero-design skirmish shooters.Your the guy who's always !@#$%^&*ing about dieing aren't you?
rootbear75 Posted March 12, 2007 Report Posted March 12, 2007 ive heard horror stories about canceling AOL subscription.have you seen that recorded phone call from a guy named Vincent Ferrari trying to cancel his account?
11___________ Posted March 13, 2007 Report Posted March 13, 2007 (edited) FORGET 1.6 GO SOURCE!! I never played 1.6, but i love source.(dam awpers) Edited March 13, 2007 by 11___________
»1587200 Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Posted March 13, 2007 11, please post on topic material. Thanks.
Smong Posted March 13, 2007 Report Posted March 13, 2007 What's so lame about these new adverts is Valve don't even pay for the 1.6 servers, they are community run. The steam login and VAC ban system work across steam and are not unique to 1.6 so cannot be used to justify adverts. The only reason I can think why they added adverts is because some time ago a company illegally added adverts to 1.6, which were shortly removed after an "agreement" with valve. Presumably this agreements is what has caused this new round of ads to spring up. Just a few more notes. Server owners do add textures/decals to walls or hanging in the air to promote their clans. This is done by using server side mods or modified maps. These aren't on every server and do not have a commercial purpose. I believe ads have no place in FPS such as counter strike. However I don't have a problem with ads appearing in life simulators such as the sims or second life since they are trying to imitate the real world. I play FPS to run and shoot, not to get schizophrenic and sell low poly furniture.
»1587200 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Posted March 14, 2007 Exactly. What's funny is that someone made a package that over writes the ads in CS 1.6, the next day Valve released and update to overwrite the ads and simply called it a "dll update". However some people were afriad to use it, thinking Valve would use VAC to their advantage and ban those who tried to remove the ads. Server owners and mod scripters are working on ways to get the ads removed though, so we'll see how that goes. This is just a bad idea all around for Valve, and once they realize that the players are the ones who run their games, you'd think that they would do the smart thing and remove the ads.
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