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I dont play in the zone but I know that at one point 17th had a decent population. Can someone tell me (without belittling me or other players) what might have caused it to become so -- desolate?
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when 17th had a recession of a population, they launched a new pub called complex. complex being launched i believe september 2005. complex wasnt a bad idea, but it had flaws and bot problems, and after 3 weeks no one played it and they left it on for 5 months. when they put the old map back up, 17th population didnt recover back to even as bad as it was. since then, 3-5 new sysops came in, tried different maps, settings, and other stuff. they had some success but were unsuccessful in the long run. today a successful map sits in pub with 5 year old settings that some people just hate, and no bots are up, so no one wants to play.

 

yeah, thats pretty much what happened.

 

 

This comic, which ive posted before, also explains why we havnt recovered.

 

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061020.jpg

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well I tell ya if I go to play ss nowadays its because I'm so bored that its my last resort at entertainment. So if I come in and there are 0 peeps in the zone, I might as well watch tv, supposed to watching a black screen with stars in it.
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when 17th had a recession of a population, they launched a new pub called complex. complex being launched i believe september 2005. complex wasnt a bad idea, but it had flaws and bot problems, and after 3 weeks no one played it and they left it on for 5 months. when they put the old map back up, 17th population didnt recover back to even as bad as it was. since then, 3-5 new sysops came in, tried different maps, settings, and other stuff. they had some success but were unsuccessful in the long run. today a successful map sits in pub with 5 year old settings that some people just hate, and no bots are up, so no one wants to play.

 

yeah, thats pretty much what happened.

 

 

This comic, which ive posted before, also explains why we havnt recovered.

 

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061020.jpg

 

Perhaps that is the reason (the comic's one).

However, I believe that there is one main reason why the 17th parallel has been losing popularity (and, I have to say, may be almost dead).

 

It is the skill needed to play the game.

Because, when a new person comes to a zone, they (usually) want to be able to start playing immediately. However, in the 17th, even to master the rudimentary control of the different ships requires a fair amount of time.

Most new players do not want to do this. So they will just wander away, never to return (I believe the term is churning).

A bit like a badly-designed website, really.

 

Oh well... B)

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when 17th had a recession of a population, they launched a new pub called complex. complex being launched i believe september 2005. complex wasnt a bad idea, but it had flaws and bot problems, and after 3 weeks no one played it and they left it on for 5 months. when they put the old map back up, 17th population didnt recover back to even as bad as it was. since then, 3-5 new sysops came in, tried different maps, settings, and other stuff. they had some success but were unsuccessful in the long run. today a successful map sits in pub with 5 year old settings that some people just hate, and no bots are up, so no one wants to play.

 

yeah, thats pretty much what happened.

 

 

This comic, which ive posted before, also explains why we havnt recovered.

 

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061020.jpg

 

Perhaps that is the reason (the comic's one).

However, I believe that there is one main reason why the 17th parallel has been losing popularity (and, I have to say, may be almost dead).

 

It is the skill needed to play the game.

Because, when a new person comes to a zone, they (usually) want to be able to start playing immediately. However, in the 17th, even to master the rudimentary control of the different ships requires a fair amount of time.

Most new players do not want to do this. So they will just wander away, never to return (I believe the term is churning).

A bit like a badly-designed website, really.

 

Oh well... :(

 

 

And you are?

 

You're suggesting that we kill everything that 17th used to be? Our very foundation?!

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And I am what?

No, I don't suggest that you 'kill' the foundation of the 17th parallel. I am merely making an observation of a reason why I believe the 17th has been losing popularity.

 

Perhaps a tutorial for new players is needed :(

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