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sdtillt1966 Newbie

sdtillt1966

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!@#$%^&*o everyone. This is my first time posting. Here's my problem. About ten years ago I submitted some of my artwork to a person to display on their website. I had done several portaits of a singer that this person had a fan site of. About a year ago I created my own artsite that displays my current interest (wildlife, animals, portraits) When I google my name that old artwork still comes up. My work has changed quite a bit over of years, meaning it has improved and my taste in subject matter changed. I'm trying to get this person to remove my artwork and any reference to my name from her site.

I've been trying over the last few YEARS to contact this person with every email address I can find on their site. Everytime I email this person it comes back to me as undeliverable. I've tried several email addresses and always get the same. It seems that this site hasn't been updated since 1999. I own the copyright to all of my artwork and I should also have the right to say who can display it and who can not.

I've tried everything I can think of to resolve thihs. Does anyone else have any ideas?

Thanks for reading,

Scott

L.C. Newbie

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Contact the webhost or owner of the domain name. If they have their owndomain.com, go to godaddy.com and see if owndomain.com is available to rent. It shouldn't be, but that's ok! Find something on the results page about looking at the domain name's ownership details or something. You'll have to enter in some randomly generated string of numbers and letters to have Godaddy present you will full contact details about the domain name's owner. Chances are that the domain name isn't a private or protected domain name, so you should be able to do this.
Maverick Newbie

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http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/index.jsp :

 

Registrant:

Treasure Graphics

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

 

Domain Name: TREASUR.COM

 

Administrative Contact :

Odlin, Tracy

je22m72t9w4@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

Phone: 570-708-8780

 

Technical Contact :

DNS, USLEC

nf3nw4279b4@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

Phone: 570-708-8780

 

Record expires on 08-Jun-2011

Record created on 06-Jun-1997

Database last updated on 06-Oct-2006

 

You should try to contact networksolutions and let them know about your problem.

sdtillt1966 Newbie

sdtillt1966

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This is what I found on godaddy: Registrant:

Treasure Graphics

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

 

 

Domain Name: TREASUR.COM

 

Administrative Contact:

Odlin, Tracy je22m72t9w4@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

Treasure Graphics

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

570-708-8780

 

Technical Contact:

DNS, USLEC nf3nw4279b4@networksolutionsprivateregistration.com

USLEC Corp

ATTN: TREASUR.COM

c/o Network Solutions

P.O. Box 447

Herndon, VA 20172-0447

570-708-8780

 

Record expires on 08-Jun-2011.

Record created on 06-Jun-1997.

Database last updated on 21-Feb-2007 08:28:45 EST.

 

Domain servers in listed order:

 

DNS1.HOSTME.COM

DNS2.HOSTME.COM

 

This listing is a Network Solutions Private Registration. Mail

correspondence to this address must be sent via USPS Express Mail™ or

USPS Certified Mail®; all other mail will not be processed. Be sure to

include the registrant's domain name in the address.

 

Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited

doc flabby Newbie

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About ten years ago I submitted some of my artwork to a person to display on their website. I had done several portaits of a singer that this person had a fan site of.

Hang on though. you gave this person an implicit licence to display your copywritten work. You can't make them take it down.

You can't demand rights you have given away to someone.

 

You have no legal rights you could use to demand it is taken down imo.

 

Its not like they stole your work....you gave it to them and gave them permission to display it.

Admiral Kirk Newbie

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You could always file a DMCA takedown notice with the ISP hosting the site. This would of course, put you at the level of whatever it is that pond-skum eats, but most ISPs will follow a DMCA takedown notice with little or no evidence. And since, as doc said, you have almost no actual legal recourse, this is pretty much your only choice. And dont bother with Network Solutions, thier just a domain registrar, theyll just tell you to go pound sand. Thier are various and sundry ways to find out who the ISP is, depends on how far down-stream the actual site provider is. Anyway, good luck ^^.
sdtillt1966 Newbie

sdtillt1966

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That's correct. I also have the right (espesially after about 10 years) to have them take it down. I'am the owner of the copyright not them. All it takes is a request form the copyright holder to remove the images to make it illegal for them to display it. It wasn't an open ended invitation for them to display it for life. If I could contact the person, I'm sure she would have no problem with it.

Scott

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sdtillt1966

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All I need is a valid email address so this person will read my request. They have no idea as of yet that I want her to take the images down.

Scott

 

How can I find out who the ISP is?

Any ideas...thanks for your help.

Scott

doc flabby Newbie

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That's correct. I also have the right (espesially after about 10 years) to have them take it down. I'am the owner of the copyright not them. All it takes is a request form the copyright holder to remove the images to make it illegal for them to display it. It wasn't an open ended invitation for them to display it for life. If I could contact the person, I'm sure she would have no problem with it.

Scott

Acctually it doesn't. Just because you own the rights to the original work, does not en!@#$%^&*le you to ownership of all copies of that work. The copy of the work you sent her belongs to her.

 

You issue is with the rights to display that copy.

You said it "wasn't an open ended invitation for them to display it for life" You never said that though when originally giving the copy to her. You said "you can display this work". You gave the right to display the work of art for an indefinate time

 

Its like when you buy a DVD, on the packaging it says you are not allowed to publically broadcast it/rent it etc. its there for a reason - to restrict your rights to broadcast the work (which you never did at the time of providing the work) But the ownership of the DVD is still yours. You own the copy of the work.

 

Copyright is not a one way street. Its a comprimise between artists and the people.

 

You would do better contacting the Webhost to get the address of the owner and writing to them. But imo they would be legally en!@#$%^&*led to display it as long as they wanted.

sdtillt1966 Newbie

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That's the problem. I can't find the name of the webhost.

The only reason I want it taken down is because when people type my name in a search engine, my old artwork shows up. I don't want anyone to see this because it is very sub par to the work I do now. It may give them the wrong idea about my work. I see your point about the legalities about this. The last time I spoke to this person she seemed very nice and probly wouldn't have any problem taking them down. But for some reason all of her contact info is not valid anymore. This whole thing started quite a few years ago. I would only half attempt to contact this person every once in a while. Now my fine art is starting to take off ( selling, etc...) now contacting this person and having them reply to me has become somewhat of a personal mission.

Thanks for your help....looks like I'm going to need it.

Scott

doc flabby Newbie

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Bascially what i was trying to say is tread carefully you have less rights in this case than you may think blum.gif (im not a lawyer tho) As the website is going to look obviously very old (webdesign has changed a bit since 1999) im sure people who find it will realise this is work you did 10 years ago. They may not even think you are the same person.
Maverick Newbie

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A tracert (traceroute) to the server of treasur.com gives:

 

Tracing route to www.treasur.com [209.92.50.59]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1	<1 ms	<1 ms	<1 ms  . [192.168.1.1]
 2	 8 ms	 8 ms	 8 ms  *****.*****.*****.unet.nl
 3	 9 ms	 8 ms	 9 ms  edge-r1-cx02.amst.unet.nl [84.53.81.178]
 4	 8 ms	 8 ms	 8 ms  nik-cx02-nik-b01.unet.nl [82.148.204.62]
 5	12 ms	 8 ms	 9 ms  hurricane-electric.nikhef.nl-ix.net [193.239.116
.14]
 6	17 ms	16 ms	17 ms  pos0-0.gsr12416.lon.he.net [216.66.24.157]
 7	93 ms	94 ms	89 ms  pos3-2.gsr12416.ash.he.net [216.66.0.94]
 8   134 ms   134 ms   134 ms  216.218.185.238
 9	97 ms	97 ms   157 ms  169.130.98.66
10	99 ms   100 ms	99 ms  169.130.98.35
11   101 ms   100 ms   101 ms  coloswitch02-abepa.fast.net [209.92.0.19]
12   101 ms	99 ms   100 ms  vws0103.fast.net [209.92.50.59]

Trace complete.

 

Opening the address of the server in the browser, vws0103.fast.net, shows the website is hosted by fast.net. However, there website is down... or gone.

sdtillt1966 Newbie

sdtillt1966

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Thank you rootbear. I found the same thing. I just contacted fast.net. I'll let you know what there response is.

Thanks,

Scott

 

That would be cool:) Unfortunatley, I only know her first name.

Thanks Anyways,

Scott

 

 

Herndon, VA. 20172-0447hey... i live near there... maybe i can go ask them or check it out lol... its maybe 20-30 minutes away

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