Hakaku Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 I personally disagree about spanking, since some people/parents can go way out of hand and basically "redefine spanking" and scar kids/teens for life. A lot of kids do just fine without and physical contact. For some, the "evil eye" is equal to a spanking... However, I do realize not all kids are the same, and for some people 'corporal punishment' is more effective. Weather one or the other is used, a kid will still turn out "right" or "wrong", so it's really hard to decide what to say. I'd allow spanking, but some people have turned it into brutal beatings, which is why I think it should just not be allowed at all...
»Ducky Posted February 9, 2007 Report Posted February 9, 2007 I mean !@#$%^&* the other day an 11 year old kid was taking shots at a passing school bus with a .22. I'd give him a bit more than stern talking to, or taking away his ps2.Just as an example. The problem isn't reactive learning in those cases. It's preactive. Kids who are brought up properly and understand lifes laws generally won't act out in this manner.I say generally because there's always a variable. In the case of an actual shooting(not the shooting itself, but the anger involved), Talking about anger management is more effective than beating him. All you'd do then is piss him off and he'd do it again. Explaining consequence, letting him make the mistake and taking the responsibility is effective for almost any child. Kick another kid? Lose your xx rights for so long. If the child kicks him again, the right was not enough to take away, ad something more. The best part about living in a material society is those kids want that material, and they will be angels for it.
NBVegita Posted February 10, 2007 Author Report Posted February 10, 2007 lol maybe where you grew up, but when I got grounded all that meant was I got to catch up on some reading. You have your ideas, and I have mine. My whole arguement is that I should have the right to raise my kids my way. Just as it would be wrong for someone to say you have to spank your child, its wrong for someone to tell me I cant.
11___________ Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 OMFG!!!!! California is so screwed up. I have lived here all my life, and its always been the first to change to far left radicalism. Discipline is needed. When i goto school, every single kid without A's B's or C's isnt disciplined. Their parents are the PROBLEM!!!. Taking away a little electronic game wont help much, BECAUSE THEY GET IT BACK TWO WEEKS LATER. Sitting in a room, alone, for everyday, for 1 month will fix anyone. Without anyone or anything happening, life gets boring. So you wanna fix yourself to make it all better. You do, then you get ur PSP. The Government cannot take the right away from me to spank (i dont have kids yet, 20-30 years later prolly). If you are caught spankng or hitting your kid, you will goto jail for 3 months so your kid can raise itself!!!!!!!! And with a couple thousand dollar bail so your financial life wont be screwed up either. I believe these **** re!@#$%^&*ed pieces of **** that somehow made it to the top, should be spanked!!!!!
jacob hunter! Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 I think spanking should be made illegal. Spanking hurts and it almost abuse. Plus they sting.
Confess Posted February 12, 2007 Report Posted February 12, 2007 Lets put it simple:If you spare the rod, you spoil the child.~~~~~America was made on principals of Christian decent. This is what has made America so amazing, this is what has made America what it is today. If our forefathers saw how we acted, and what we were doing and even thinking of, they would not only turn in there graves, but would destroy the very ground we stand on. People, turn away from your wicked ways and see the light. Fools that believe in such liberalist crap should be shot, maybe that will toughen them up. You want to be a sissy? You want america to be a sissy country? Then go to Jail and take it up the !@#$%^&*. No matter what law is passed, I will still spank my child. I will still make sure he grows up to be a well respected, honest man, even when he is 50 ill be spankin' his/her butt. Screw you libs. You have NO right to tell me how to discpline my childrens.
Aileron Posted February 13, 2007 Report Posted February 13, 2007 What does this have to do with religon? And don't blow a gasket 11, California is just being California. In a few months they will realise its a bad idea and double back on it.
Yoink Posted February 19, 2007 Report Posted February 19, 2007 I think all the people using "libs" as a pejorative are total !@#$%^&*rings. Having said that, I firmly agree that spanking is a good method of discipline.
NBVegita Posted February 20, 2007 Author Report Posted February 20, 2007 Saying you hate what liberals as a whole are attempting to do to the country does not mean you're belittling them.
Sharpflame Posted February 20, 2007 Report Posted February 20, 2007 Spanking should definitely be allowed,but nothing more. Only a small child gets hurt from their butt being hit, say < 9. And that's when they dont hate you for it at all,and it makes sense to do just a slight bit of pain (<9 children are basically wusses) and their butt's only gonna hurt for 10 seconds. All it does is teach them right from wrong. If a child is not taught this, they will never do things right. They will also always be messed if they are beat. Beating a child is the worst mistake any parent can make, because their child will completely lose respect for their parent and not listen to them anymore. I witnessed my dad's girlfriend slap her 12 or 11 yr old daughter on the face, because the daughter disrespected her mother. She is at the time of "teenager stages" and this is expected. I know for a fact that my dad and his girlfriend are bad parents, i hate them both. I dread going over there every other weekend. But i must admit, my dad did teach me right from wrong when my mom and him were married. How? Spanking. Just one spanking here and now,every time i did something wrong. This is good, because it lets children think of the consequences before their actions. It usually takes until they are adolesent and have that ability unless you teach them early. They will be less troubled if you teach them right from wrong before they have the option to turn away from you. So, yes, spanking should very well be allowed, but if ur spanking ur child more than once per incedent,twice for a rly bad one maybe, it may be considered abuse.
Yoink Posted February 21, 2007 Report Posted February 21, 2007 Saying you hate what liberals as a whole are attempting to do to the country does not mean you're belittling them.Doesn't change the fact that some people are being so ignorant as to bring down a whole group as if it has no positive facets whatsoever. If I have to be called a liberal or conservative, I'm a liberal, but as I previously showed, there are several points where I'm rather conservative.
NBVegita Posted February 21, 2007 Author Report Posted February 21, 2007 Then you are a moderate. lol politics are not black and white, completely left or right. I am a moderate.
Yoink Posted February 24, 2007 Report Posted February 24, 2007 When I tell people (conservatives/neo-conservatives in particular) that I'm a moderate, they cry bull!@#$%^&*.
NBVegita Posted February 26, 2007 Author Report Posted February 26, 2007 See I get the same thing from the libs around here. I'm a true moderate, sometimes I'm with left, sometimes I'm right. People need to be more accepting.
Aileron Posted February 26, 2007 Report Posted February 26, 2007 No, that's not it. Actually in this case its a case of people !@#$%^&*igning "moderate" to the local median. Basically in the whole wide world you might be moderate but amonst that smaller group you might be on the fringe. Actually this is because the group itself is on the fringe, which usually is the case actually. Usually when groups isolate themselves they are pulled away from the wider whole.
NBVegita Posted February 27, 2007 Author Report Posted February 27, 2007 Everything is also based on region. I live in NY which everyone knows is a mostly lib, dem state. Whereas if you go to say texas...different story. Politics are very strongly regional.
Dav Posted February 27, 2007 Report Posted February 27, 2007 I personally disagree about spanking, since some people/parents can go way out of hand and basically "redefine spanking" and scar kids/teens for life. A lot of kids do just fine without and physical contact. For some, the "evil eye" is equal to a spanking... However, I do realize not all kids are the same, and for some people 'corporal punishment' is more effective. Weather one or the other is used, a kid will still turn out "right" or "wrong", so it's really hard to decide what to say. I'd allow spanking, but some people have turned it into brutal beatings, which is why I think it should just not be allowed at all... For spanking to work it doesn't have to go close to that. Young children don't understand right and wrong, they often cant understand that something is bad and so just telling them in some cases wont work. A child can understand that if i do this again i will be spanked therefore it is bad. and they wont do it. The action of spanking rather then the pain is what has an impact, its a very real and clear cut punishment which draws the line for children and in my opinion is essential for discipline in later life when those lines are clearly established. It then gets to the point where the simple threat of spanking will make that child listen to you. I'm sure you have all seen these kids running riot when parents say "don't do that". Yes you can have naughty corner and such but IMO thats just making everything take 100x longer for the sake of political correctness. I find it amazing how it can now be considered so wrong to discipline children by a tried and tested method that has been used for many generations.
dharma Posted April 18, 2007 Report Posted April 18, 2007 (edited) Only pure barbarians and devils indulge in this barbaric form of punishment called spanking. Its was invented by sadistic and sexual perverts .Personally I believe human behavior will never change so its pointless to hit a child or an adult. I have known countless people who have grown up into healthy people without spanking .On the contrary people who have been spanked grow up to be violent individuals I had a !@#$%^&* in school who used the cane on boys buttocks. Once the !@#$%^&* thrashed a big boy and he threw a rock which nearly killed the !@#$%^&* . I was sad that it didnt hit but such demented ASSS will get their due after DEATH!! These ASSS will go toa world where they will be tormented just as they tormented young helpless kids.. BE WARNED!!! Edited April 18, 2007 by dharma
NBVegita Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Posted April 18, 2007 I don't believe in your god, nor the christian god, so on neither account will I go to what you term !@#$%^&*. As for America having no brains, well we sure seem to have enough to be one of, if not the biggest super power in the world. And we also have one of the highest global employment rates, one of the highest education rates, and we are one of the highest average earning countries too. I've known a lot of normal people who have, and have not been spanked. It's up to you how you want to raise your children, but you won't tell me how I can raise mine. And when your children are working for my children, we'll see who's philosophy is better.
Aileron Posted April 18, 2007 Report Posted April 18, 2007 The second and third posts have been deleted. Post once at a time please. Besides, you will find I'm a lot more tolerant of opinions that don't center around dismissing one's opponants as "asuras". Thanks for reviving a dead irrelevant topic just to spam by the way...
dharma Posted April 18, 2007 Report Posted April 18, 2007 The second and third posts have been deleted. Post once at a time please. Besides, you will find I'm a lot more tolerant of opinions that don't center around dismissing one's opponants as "asuras". Thanks for reviving a dead irrelevant topic just to spam by the way... A thousand apologies brothers and sisters of the great fun loving nation.Actually i love Americans a lot. I lost my control and I humbly apologize. It brought back memories of that horrible Maths teacher I had in school .The guy was a terrible sadist dear friends.The creep used to bring a thin cane about six feet long. I can still feel the presence of the guy and it has me scared !@#$%^&* This creep has made me an introvert. Lets do our bit to make this world a better place
Tiq Posted April 18, 2007 Report Posted April 18, 2007 Spanking is alright. Anyone who claims to have suffered long-term mental or physical damage was either beaten as opposed to simply spanked, or, frankly, a pansy.
SeVeR Posted April 19, 2007 Report Posted April 19, 2007 Pain is the universal deterrent. Harsh words can be ignored.
ESCANDAL0SA Posted April 22, 2007 Report Posted April 22, 2007 spanking for wrong behaviour is fine, a little pat or whatever.personally, i don't think i can ever do that to my children.but, when people go all out and beat the !@#$%^&* outta their kids whether they did something bad or not...that's wrong.
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