AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 I don't recall saying I'm going to sell that domain for $100,000. If you can find that, it would be much appreciated. This may seem bewildering to a peasant, but when you grow up and make some money of your own, you tend to spend it on something you enjoy. I enjoyed SS back then (3+ years ago), and when I had the chance to buy SS.net and help out the game, I did. But all too quickly I realized that it consisted of mostly cheap misers who revel in internet 'anonymity.' I still kept beginners.ss.net up for a long time, I hosted MR, and I hosted dueling league way past my interest. I'm sorry, I didn't realize $5000 was your life savings
»freakmonger Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 1. Subspace.com is not available for $5000. Try $100,000 Guess I misunderstood that.
AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 Oh I just realized what a further idiot you are. I said subspace.COM was for sale at $100,000. I don't own the .com. Furthermore, as insane as this may be, subspace is more than just a word used to describe a game. Try Algebra for example. Or Physics. Wow! I also said that there are domains worth over $100,000 (to quote you: "And who in their right mind would buy a domain for $100,000."). Nowhere did I claim ss.net was worth $100k. To steal from Lunacriss - in conclusion, you are an idiot.
sil Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 7. I did have a design made. I have a web-dev firm, getting a site up is not an issue. But I realized a while ago - the people in Subspace are such fantastic !@#$%^&*ing reASSS why would I want to help you idiots? The reality is that I would never ever talk to 90% of you in real-life. What do I gain from setting up a site? Especially since you non-SVSers will do what you do best - whine whine whine whine I'd like to start out first by saying I don't know you, or anything really about you. So don't take this as me saying what you personally believe. Here's an answer for you. You'd help the people of subspace because at some point in your life, the game was important to you. You actually liked it, cared about the game staying alive, or whatnot. And maybe a small part of you remembers that and wants to game to live on for future people to expereince it, maybe even future generations. Otherwise, you could just be another jack!@#$%^&* who thinks they are important and do nothing.
»freakmonger Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 yes I mis typed that, I meant for a domain name related to subspace. You ARE the god of subspace with your almighty money. Reminds me of trixter. Sorry to have caused you to grace us with your presence.
AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 No freak - you are incredulous that someone would spend $5000 on a domain for a game they like. I simply pointed out that you are a cheap !@#$%^&* !@#$%^&* (and that you are an idiot for somehow confusing subspace.COM with subspace.NET) sil - I'm forwarding the domain to GetContinuum. Wonderer, WZ sysop and my squaddie said it was a centralized site for SS. Plus the people that I did care about / didn't dislike so strongly - they are gone. Long gone. I will never let ss.net be directly used by anyone. Why? Legality. Every single coder I have come across in SS is a freaking newbie at coding and has their code chock full of holes. If their software was injected/modified (child porn, phishing, etc etc) - guess who would be held responsible? Sorry, its the grown-up world
»freakmonger Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 lol, i'm far from 'cheap'. You really should know more before making that !@#$%^&*umption I do like how you are helping the community out A LOT by forwarding the domain to wonderer's site. Thats an awsome "grown-up" thing of you to do.
AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 Hi freakmonger, read my last post - the real world has something called 'laws' and I have to protect myself legally.
»freakmonger Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 ummm...I was thanking you for doing something with the domain by forwarding it rather than letting it just sit there....wtf is your problem? You just can't say "you're welcome"?
AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 1. Nope. I never intended to sell it - Sedo is broken. I've met the founder/president/etc etc - they couldn't care less 2. I gave an example. I give subspace.net to you. You, without any bad intention, upload !@#$%^&*ty PHP code. Person X finds a hole in your !@#$%^&*ty PHP code, and uploads child porn. You have done nothing malicious (nor did you intend to), but Person X did (intend to), and also did do something malicious. End result? I'm cluster!@#$%^&*ed. You think I can just tell the FBI 'oops, someone uploaded !@#$%^&*ty code'? Doesn't work that way. That of course is a sharper example. You upload copyright material, I get DMCAed. You upload some copyright material, I get C&Ded (okay less likely to hurt me - we own our own IP block). Regardless - I do not host anything on any domain I own (or server I own) without having that code written by me or vetted by thousands of other users (eg WordPress or vBulletin)
»doc flabby Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 Have to add: 11. Anyone who thinks ss.net or subspace is any sort of 'business opportunity' for me has to get their head examined. You are obviously a moron.Actually i disagree. No one parts with $5000 for a domain without looking for some kinda return on that investment.I'm !@#$%^&*uming you are holding the domain waiting for a seller. When you get an appropriate offer you will sell the domain. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can see, you purchased the domain legally.In the mean time while you are waiting for it to sell you are redirecting it to http://getcontinuum.com for that the community is grateful.
L.C. Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 6. I don't like non-SVS. That has been established since day one. The non-SVS zones broke the rule of not hosting other zones contents, so really - quit your whining you babies7. ...Especially since you non-SVSers will do what you do best - whine whine whine whineHahaha, how especially true. SVS is definately the way Subspace was meant to be played.
AhmedF Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 No one parts with $5000 for a domain without looking for some kinda return on that investment.I'm !@#$%^&*uming you are holding the domain waiting for a seller. When you get an appropriate offer you will sell the domain. This will come across wrong - but lets try it. The $5000 needs context. If you bought something for $100 - would you necessarily be waiting for a 'return' on that? Of course not, that $100 is insignificant enough that you don't really care if you make it back (or don't). Now consider you bought something for $100 three years ago - would you be at all concerned about making that $100 back? Of course not. So as you make more money, the size of that '$100' grows. In my situation, $5000 is not a big deal
L.C. Posted January 8, 2007 Report Posted January 8, 2007 So as you make more money, the size of that '$100' grows. In my situation, $5000 is not a big dealYup. It mainly depends on where you live (because of higher economy in different places) and what kind of job you have. In Portland, Oregon, we paid 4x more of monthly rent for a decent looking house that had the same or similar quality in Springfield, Missouri. Definately an economical difference. In highly populated parts of California, that $5000 shouldn't be too much at all. You're making hundreds of thousands or so in those kinds of places. Tell me differently if you think I'm wrong please. ;o
AhmedF Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 I've actually lived in three different cities in the last six months
PoLiX Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 6. I don't like non-SVS. That has been established since day one. The non-SVS zones broke the rule of not hosting other zones contents, so really - quit your whining you babies This is the one post that is the only one that made no sense to me. SVS has always used the same idea of tiles, shared bases, map ideas, and all use the same basic setting ideas... I don't get it...
jacob hunter! Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 lol seems now the topic has gotten into a fighting match between Freak and Ahm
NBVegita Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Actually as the owner you are protected under the wonder of the internet. If someone uploads something malicious on your webpage, you have a federal minimum of time, I don't recall the time off the top of my head, to discontinue content before actions are taken against you and the server. Just owning the domain puts you at no fault unless you also own the server involved. Even then for a first offence you get a slap on the hand. All servers track the upload times even if the intruder masks everything else. All you need to protect yourself, and the server is to produce the do!@#$%^&*ents that you, nor the server admin posted said content, and that it was suddenly added in one fell swoop. With the legal system of today, it is very difficult to be held accountable for things you do not do. And even a lot of things you do do. And as you say, with most of the coders involved in the continuum and ss community not knowing more then pointers and array's I would have to say that chance that someone would go through the risk of committing a federal offence, to try to frame someone in a community from a dying 2d space game that they most likely have never played, is slim to none. I have to leave the slim part in for the script kiddies who think they're something special.
»doc flabby Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Going to make a definitive SS news site. Thinking of making it pretty simple, maybe using wordpress and inviting a couple of people from each zone to post news on the site as well as people to moderate and post general news. I don't want the site to do anything else, just be an independent news portal where any SS players know they can go. I got the domain subspacewire.com, and I'm thinking of giving it a newspaper theme.Anyway, I just need a couple of people to help me with it. Just drop me a line. Why bother getting people to post new for the site. Syndicate it from the other zones. http://toktok.sscentral.com/ssnews.php
»D1st0rt Posted January 9, 2007 Report Posted January 9, 2007 Still wouldn't hurt to get additional content if you have people that can write it.
SVS Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 In some cir!@#$%^&*stances it would be ideal to have one website for news, one site for all of our needs. However this is not true in all cases and it is definitely not true in a community run game. There is no organizational structure in place to ensure a proper hand off of community oriented resources such as websites and no one person... NO ONE, is individually responsible enough to be worthy of our trust in such matters. Especially the folks currently running SSCentral.com and even more so with some of the people they are currently !@#$%^&*ociating with in the course of attempting to further development of their site. Swift has absolutely no interest in this game. Polix has a known history of getting pissy, quitting Subspace and !@#$%^&*ing everyone he can with any access he has been given (I still love you Polix, no matter what you do!). On a side note, if anyone else got the inside joke regarding what I put in parenthesis there you get an extra cookie for today. Death+ has shown in several cases I propensity to harm other elements of the community in his attempt to further his own gains. Such as kicking zones off of his server (or threatening to do so) if they refuse to leave an existing forum system and join his. Or plotting to get existing zones removed from hosts despite the fact that they still have an active player base. Boy D+, what a boy scout you are! So even if we were to have someone, who, unlike those currently involved with SSCentral.com... were able to apply their work in an effort to improve the community as a whole we could still not trust them to ensure that the resources they built are passed on when they lose interest (who wants to list every major SS website resource we have had that no longer exists?). There is no organizational structure ensuring this and as such it would be improper, nay asinine, to place all of our eggs in one basket with it under the control of a single individual or a small group of individuals. PS - Stop giving Ahmed a hard time
Ophie Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 SVS you're not really known to have a constructive manner about yourself. You have bad bed-side manners, hate practically everyone, and boast on and on about how MG is the most original zone ever. You threaten to shut down several infantry zones and show little to no support (even destructive at times) to zones like SSCI Red Planet, which has graphics far more superior to MG's.
SVS Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Good critique of my point. Oh wait; you were SUPPORTING my point not critiquing it. Thanks. Oh, I never realized calling a zone out for having zero gameplay was destructive. I thought it was just offering an opinion, an opinion that was shared by anyone who had played the zone and had experienced how poor the gameplay was. If you want to feel bad for someone, feel bad for the poor saps who were tricked into playing that zone because D+ shutdown Hyperspace, a zone with GOOD gameplay and put that zone up on the same port.
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