»doc flabby Posted December 1, 2006 Report Posted December 1, 2006 i can probably find you space on PSS network (would not be on the same server as the other PSSF zones btw that one is only for dev zones) im really sad hyperspace has been killed off whats worse its been replaced with a !@#$%^&* zone. hyperspace had truly unique gameplayhyperspace is miles ahead of what its been replaced with. Quote
Sharpflame Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Your right,Hyperspace was better,the one now is just not addictive and not exiting.Not enough action.I want hyperspace back,its no fair to just take it away without anyone else's say in it.Anything for HS back. Quote
L.C. Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Brain himself shut Hyperspace down.Death+ was threatening him, but those threats never happened, so technically SSCI didn't kick hyperspace off.Brain shutdown Hyperspace from pressure. If Brain had ignored Death+, and Death+ would proceed to turn his threats into real actions, then that would be SSCI vs Hyperspace. Which would also hurt SSCI's reputation in public. Brain had two choices: Listen to Death+ or not. If he doesn't, he has two more choices: shutdown the zone and look for a new host or to see what Death+ does. Brain chose to shutdown the zone and look for a new host. Put these choices into variables; each new question that had two paths would be also a variable (almost like a+b=c). Now is this logically correct to say that SSCI shutdown Hyperspace? A player came in and complained about how Red Planet took the "plugin" of Hyperspace. In other words, the "port" number of the zone. He obviously has no understanding of this kind of detail; port means absolutely nothing. Who gives a flippin' quarter about a port number? Hyperspace left SSCI by Brain's decision, so there was an open slot on SSCI. Since there was an open slot on SSCI and Gameplay was also looking for a hosting slot, he decided to use the available slot that Hyperspace had once been using. The moment Hyperspace was shutdown and the decision to look for a new host, that slot was free and open to any zone under authorization of the SSCI Administration. That's not stealing. From how I see it, Gameplay and Death+ are in need of another server (or colocation) due to the lack of resources on their server now. According to them they would be willing to sacrifice a chunk from their paycheck in order to continue and expand SSCI's Zone Hosting dominian. The condition was to co-operate by relocating the home forum of the zone to SSCI's Forums. The threat was that if this condition was refused or ignored, the zone would be shutdown by the SSCI Administration personally. Once again, the SSCI Administration did not touch the zone, so they do not hold any responsibility (they would if they actually took action - touching the zone with their hands of course). However, personally I'd like to know what the SSCI Administration has against PoLiX and these forums, really to see if it is just a personal agenda of the SSCI Administration, or just faulty or poor logic reasoning. I see this in two ways; the first way is that SSCI wants all of its zones to be united under its forums (this being a formal matter). The second way perspective would be that despite that, SSCI should have no business in involvement with 3rd Party (or even 1st Party) Forums of Subspace; I do somewhat disagree that you be dictated where your forum be. Yes, I agree with the first perspective. It does seem a little formal and nice to see some uniting of all zones under a dominian; by threat which could later become an active force, I disagree. This threat was targetting PoLiX and these forums; and that is why I am interested in knowing what SSCI has against PoLiX and these forums. This answer would very much determine validity or fallacy in their reasoning (I won't give an opinion of what I think on this). Quote
»D1st0rt Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Brain himself shut Hyperspace down.Death+ was threatening him, but those threats never happened, so technically SSCI didn't kick hyperspace off.Brain shutdown Hyperspace from pressure.There was no pressure. There were no threats. Shutting down the zone was not suggested by Death+ and he didn't even want us to do it. After being given the options of a] moving forums or b] contribute server payments, Dr Brain decided to go with the previously unmentioned option of moving to another host. If Brain had ignored Death+, and Death+ would proceed to turn his threats into real actions, then that would be SSCI vs Hyperspace. Which would also hurt SSCI's reputation in public.If he had "ignored" him, the issue would have just been dragged out for a while longer. Also, you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. This isn't a SSCI vs Hyperspace issue. Think of it more like this, SSCI gave us the terms for contract renewal and we declined. And it's arguable what is currently happening now for the reputation. Brain had two choices: Listen to Death+ or not. If he doesn't, he has two more choices: shutdown the zone and look for a new host or to see what Death+ does. Brain decided to take the zone off of the server Put these choices into variables; each new question that had two paths would be also a variable (almost like a+b=c). Now is this logically correct to say that SSCI shutdown Hyperspace?Again I disagree with your interpretation, but you're en!@#$%^&*led to it. A player came in and complained about how Red Planet took the "plugin" of Hyperspace. In other words, the "port" number of the zone....I believe the issue some people have with this is that until they update their zone lists, some people will go in solely on the belief that it is still Hyperspace. Quote
»1587200 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 A player came in and complained about how Red Planet took the "plugin" of Hyperspace. In other words, the "port" number of the zone....I believe the issue some people have with this is that until they update their zone lists, some people will go in solely on the belief that it is still Hyperspace.Not to mention that HS is on the default zone list, so new players will automaticly see Redplanet. Quote
»doc flabby Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Posted December 2, 2006 Well regardless of these issues. i for one would like to see hyperspace zone back. Quote
»Purge Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 doc, do you host it on SSC billing? Quote
»doc flabby Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Posted December 2, 2006 i dont have SSC only biller i can provide is PSS biller. However I do allow zones to connect to any biller of their choice. Quote
Sharpflame Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Well regardless of these issues. i for one would like to see hyperspace zone back. Me too. From what I understand,couldnt they have taken off a different zone from SSCI and almost everything be solved instead of hyperspace?Not much people play battlefield,especially when compared to HS,and I have been bored of subspace because hyperspace is gone,even after looking and trying different zones.No other zone lets you make money for kills and upgrade,fight others weaker and stronger (shipwise),and the best basing around.This is all in my opinion. Quote
mill Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Format ur sentences please We didnt "REPLACE" HS. HS left so we took the opening. Once again, we did not boot HS off just to make room for red planet Quote
»doc flabby Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Posted December 2, 2006 We didnt "REPLACE" HS. HS left so we took the opening. Once again, we did not boot HS off just to make room for red planetHS left because there were put in a position by SSCI where dr. brain felt that was the only option. now please can we stay on topic please. if you want to argue about the rights & wrong use this thread:http://forums.sscentral.com/index.php?showtopic=12488 this is about solutions leave these arguments for trash talk Quote
»1587200 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 Hey doc, will you let them keep their forums here? Or will you demand they use yours or pay you money? Quote
»doc flabby Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Posted December 2, 2006 Hey doc, will you let them keep their forums here? Or will you demand they use yours or pay you money?lol i dont care whatever as long as i get a link and credit back to flabby.tv somewhere in the news for the zone....http://flabby.tv/oldsite/Flabby%20Society/viceroyflabby.pngthere is one other requirement tho....ALL MUST HAIL THE VICEROY Quote
»1587200 Posted December 2, 2006 Report Posted December 2, 2006 xoops! AHH! *slowly backs away bearing a crucifix in front of him* Quote
»doc flabby Posted December 2, 2006 Author Report Posted December 2, 2006 lol flabbys arnt evil - they are just useless! http://flabby.tv/oldsite Quote
Dr Brain Posted December 4, 2006 Report Posted December 4, 2006 Brain himself shut Hyperspace down.Death+ was threatening him, but those threats never happened, so technically SSCI didn't kick hyperspace off.Brain shutdown Hyperspace from pressure. I never turned the zone off. Death+ did that. If Brain had ignored Death+, and Death+ would proceed to turn his threats into real actions, then that would be SSCI vs Hyperspace. Which would also hurt SSCI's reputation in public. Death+ shut down HS, not myself. And I do believe that his actions have damaged SSCI's public image, but I could be wrong. Brain had two choices: Listen to Death+ or not. If he doesn't, he has two more choices: shutdown the zone and look for a new host or to see what Death+ does. Brain chose to shutdown the zone and look for a new host. I ignored him for several days, at which point he threatened to turn off the zone. I started to back up the important files, and during that backup process, death terminated the zone. Put these choices into variables; each new question that had two paths would be also a variable (almost like a+b=c). Now is this logically correct to say that SSCI shutdown Hyperspace? Yes? A player came in and complained about how Red Planet took the "plugin" of Hyperspace. In other words, the "port" number of the zone. He obviously has no understanding of this kind of detail; port means absolutely nothing. Who gives a flippin' quarter about a port number? Hyperspace left SSCI by Brain's decision, so there was an open slot on SSCI. Since there was an open slot on SSCI and Gameplay was also looking for a hosting slot, he decided to use the available slot that Hyperspace had once been using. The moment Hyperspace was shutdown and the decision to look for a new host, that slot was free and open to any zone under authorization of the SSCI Administration. That's not stealing. I think it's lame. They could have used any port they wanted. Not like there's any shortage of ports on the box. From how I see it, Gameplay and Death+ are in need of another server (or colocation) due to the lack of resources on their server now. According to them they would be willing to sacrifice a chunk from their paycheck in order to continue and expand SSCI's Zone Hosting dominian. The condition was to co-operate by relocating the home forum of the zone to SSCI's Forums. The threat was that if this condition was refused or ignored, the zone would be shutdown by the SSCI Administration personally. Once again, the SSCI Administration did not touch the zone, so they do not hold any responsibility (they would if they actually took action - touching the zone with their hands of course). Not true. They didn't care if HS joined their forum or not. They just wanted us off of SSForum. Death+ made it clear that us using a third party forum would have been perfectly acceptable. However, personally I'd like to know what the SSCI Administration has against PoLiX and these forums, really to see if it is just a personal agenda of the SSCI Administration, or just faulty or poor logic reasoning. I see this in two ways; the first way is that SSCI wants all of its zones to be united under its forums (this being a formal matter). The second way perspective would be that despite that, SSCI should have no business in involvement with 3rd Party (or even 1st Party) Forums of Subspace; I do somewhat disagree that you be dictated where your forum be. I believe (read: don't know for sure) that Death+ feels that Polix tried to shut SSI down. I think he also implicated SVS in this plot, but that's sort of beside the point. Yes, I agree with the first perspective. It does seem a little formal and nice to see some uniting of all zones under a dominian; by threat which could later become an active force, I disagree. This threat was targetting PoLiX and these forums; and that is why I am interested in knowing what SSCI has against PoLiX and these forums. This answer would very much determine validity or fallacy in their reasoning (I won't give an opinion of what I think on this). Read above. Quote
»1587200 Posted December 4, 2006 Report Posted December 4, 2006 I think it's lame. They could have used any port they wanted. Not like there's any shortage of ports on the box.By the looks of the population, it appears as though it doesn't matter anyway. But that could also be attributed to the fact the settings blow. Quote
Deathboy-evil Posted December 4, 2006 Report Posted December 4, 2006 I don't know about you guys, but I think it's already been clearly stated by the public that people have stopped caring about why everything happened, a lot of people understand now, but the main priority now is to move on and get HS back up so we can move on with our lives.. Quote
scarface.nl Posted December 4, 2006 Report Posted December 4, 2006 Ok. Heres the deal. Brain and I dont see eye to eye, but I know for a god !@#$%^&* fact that he didnt shut the zone down himself. He has spent more time on this zone than any of us can imagine, and to even think that he would want to shut it down is !@#$%^&*ing ridiculous. L.C, I am going to say what nobody else will ok? are you ready? Go die in a !@#$%^&*ing church fire you inbreed !@#$%^&*got. I hope you get hit by a !@#$%^&*ing train. Tomorrow. Good day friend. Quote
L.C. Posted December 4, 2006 Report Posted December 4, 2006 Mmkay. I realized I was wrong. Sorry about that. ^_^ God bless you. Quote
Evil Doom Posted December 5, 2006 Report Posted December 5, 2006 LC wow gj on admittig ur misunderstanding ... and scar... i never thought ide see the day you defnd doc (and yet another one of those serious moments of urs ) Quote
Deathboy-evil Posted December 6, 2006 Report Posted December 6, 2006 Mmkay. I realized I was wrong. Sorry about that. ^_^ God bless you. As Evil said, Grats on admitting it Quote
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